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permalink #26 of 31: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 5 Jun 12 10:33
permalink #26 of 31: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 5 Jun 12 10:33
I think Google understands the issue and works around it by having cores search results be neutral, and identifiably separate from paid search results. As long as this is the case, I don't see a huge ethical quandary. I hadn't heard about the change to product search, but here's what they say about it: "We believe that having a commercial relationship with merchants will encourage them to keep their product information fresh and up to date. Higher quality datawhether its accurate prices, the latest offers or product availabilityshould mean better shopping results for users, which in turn should create higher quality traffic for merchants." I'm not sure I understand what the value add is for vendors.
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permalink #27 of 31: Mike Godwin (mnemonic) Wed 6 Jun 12 17:15
permalink #27 of 31: Mike Godwin (mnemonic) Wed 6 Jun 12 17:15
jet writes: 'The CEO of Google personally requested that information about him be removed from google years ago, they banned a CNET reporter from doing interviews, etc.' I'm not sure what the CNET reporter has to do with Google's purported manipulation of search results, but Steven Levy documents in IN THE PLEX that Eric Schmidt's efforts to get himself excised from Google search failed. The Googlers wouldn't do it.
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permalink #28 of 31: Rebecca MacKinnon (rmackinnon) Thu 7 Jun 12 04:18
permalink #28 of 31: Rebecca MacKinnon (rmackinnon) Thu 7 Jun 12 04:18
Gail, Jet, Jon, Mike - Sorry just catching up to this. I think this exchange demonstrates exactly why it is important for users to push companies like Google as hard as possible to be transparent and honest about how their services work. They may have a motto "don't be evil" and as the Levy story about Schmidt shows, many employees truly believe in it. But if a company does not live in constant fear of public exposure and loss of public trust as a consequence of lapsing, it will inevitably lapse. This is why I believe that investigative journalism directed at Internet companies is just as important for the public interest - and ultimately for our political, cultural and economic freedom - as is investigative journalism directed at government. These companies shape how we understand and interact with our world, which means that they carry a huge responsibility to society that goes far beyond their responsibility to deliver profit to shareholders. It is why I argue in the book that users need to start acting more like constituents and less like passive "users" and take their concerns and demands directly to companies. The most innovative companies ought to recognize that if they welcome more give and take with their constituents and are responsive to public interest concerns, they will build a stronger relationship with the people whose trust and loyalty they need in order to be a successful business in the long run.
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permalink #29 of 31: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 7 Jun 12 08:06
permalink #29 of 31: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 7 Jun 12 08:06
From your fingers to board of directors' ears, everywhere.
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permalink #30 of 31: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 7 Jun 12 14:42
permalink #30 of 31: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 7 Jun 12 14:42
Many thanks to Rebecca MacKinnon for taking time to share with us about _Consent of the Networked_! This was a relatively brief Inkwell discussion because of Rebecca's hectic discussion; hopefully she'll rejoin us later when she has more time to talk about the state and future of the Internet.
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permalink #31 of 31: Rebecca MacKinnon (rmackinnon) Fri 8 Jun 12 04:11
permalink #31 of 31: Rebecca MacKinnon (rmackinnon) Fri 8 Jun 12 04:11
Thanks Jon. Sorry my schedule has been crazy. Look forward to more discussion if and when things ever calm down.
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