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Topic 478: Bruce Sterling, Cory Doctorow & Jon Lebkowsky: State Of The World 2015
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Bruce Sterling, Cory Doctorow & Jon Lebkowsky: State Of The World 2015
permalink #101 of 198: Tiffany Lee Brown's Moustache (magdalen) Sun 11 Jan 15 12:41
permalink #101 of 198: Tiffany Lee Brown's Moustache (magdalen) Sun 11 Jan 15 12:41
another question had to do with the naming of "SARAH," the smart house in the show Eureka. her name was actually S.A.R.A.H., fwiw, for Self Actuated Residential Automated Habitat. i don't know which of the show's creators and writers named her, but they did have a few significant female writers, which isn't often the case in TV. i interviewed at least one of them for my blog. the house's character was voiced by the same male actor who played a hilarious, loveable nerd character in the show, one who essentially grows up during the course of the show, becoming more mature and more, for lack of a better word, human, as time goes on. i believe S.A.R.A.H.'s Twitter feed, which was popular among many Syfy fans, was written by various writers, both screenwriters and hacks like me employed by the marketing side of content, but i may be mixing that up with some other gig. for those who haven't seen the show, perhaps a little context is in order: Eureka intentionally embraced and lampooned decades of television cliches. the lead character is even a sheriff, though his town is a wacky high-tech sci-fi Brigadoon instead of Mayberry. S.A.R.A.H. is used as a plot device and to comedic effect; in one episode, she behaves like a pouty, jealous wife. though the show wasn't completely enlightened by any means, it did feature an African-American woman as its most powerful character, and the white guy sheriff's right-hand man, who was a genius to the sheriff's down-home not-so-smartiness, was also African-American. not sure how relevant all that is to the conversation, but... whatever. there you have it.
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permalink #102 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 12:57
permalink #102 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 12:57
When you're talking about the State of the World, everything is relevant to the conversation. And Eureka had its own very peculiar perspective on that State, from an idealized community perspective ... from a town that's 90% Mr. Peabody, 10% Sherman. That town was a little like the early Internet, a community full of writers, hackers, artists, and poets. Big emphasis on the hackers, though. Eureka had only three cops, and one was a cyborg.
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Bruce Sterling, Cory Doctorow & Jon Lebkowsky: State Of The World 2015
permalink #103 of 198: Tiffany Lee Brown's Moustache (magdalen) Sun 11 Jan 15 13:09
permalink #103 of 198: Tiffany Lee Brown's Moustache (magdalen) Sun 11 Jan 15 13:09
i'm a fan of these annual bruce-and-jon fests, and it's really nice to see cory around these parts, too. but here and elsewhere on the WELL, there are some voices wondering why women's voices and concerns aren't represented here. i have to admit, when i first saw the lineup and told my husband about it (he's a big fan of bruce's futurism-ish writing), i breezily set it up with the caveat, "It's the usual sort of thing, you know, the experts are all white guys..." not even as a criticism, just as a way of introducing the conversation. i like these guys. i've known them personally in some ways, in some situations, over the course of decades. i don't fault them for being white or privileged or male or smart or this or that. but i think it does merit conversation and *acknowledgement*, the fact that we are culturally programmed to set up certain people to be our experts, and we then give them forums in which to show their knowledge and spread their ideas. (next year, maybe ask Genevieve Bell to sit in for a spell?) so, i appreciate that women have tried to be heard in this conversation, like fom, evy, and loris. i also appreciate jon's post #64, in which he acknowledges that he doesn't have the answers to everything and may have misinterpreted evy's original question/critique. and i would still like to see a much more thoughtful answer to paulina's questions about the larger environmental effects of our continued, inevitable march toward progress. specifically, she has asked about the materials sourced to make the digital and electronic stuff required by retro-futuristic advances such as smart homes, even ones like bruce's guest house in Torino. bruce sort-of addressed the issue in responses #50-51, but sort-of seemed to conclude that it isn't an area he's focusing on. (? well, that's how i read it.) i'd like to rephrase, and throw it at all three of our assembled experts: - Is the treadmill of obsolecence and Moore's Law-style progress contributing significantly to the demise of our planet's ecosystem, in your opinion? (e.g., faster chips, smaller phones, a house that requires a fast chip on every door handle and a wi-fi-equipped thermometer/hygrometer in every fridge, and a marketing and packaging infrastructure to support the continuing rollout of these inventions...) - If so, do you feel a personal responsibility to change the course of that treadmill? Whoops, bad metaphor. Treadmills don't go anywhere, right? Ah, maybe my metaphor's not so bad after all. - If you do think it's contributing to environmental problems, and you do feel some personal responsibility, as a person who has been blessed with smarts, communication abilities, and the power that goes along with being deemed an expert, to do something about it: What are the top three ways that you, personally in your everyday life, can make the situation better? What are the top three ways that others can also work to change it? I sincerely hope that you guys, or someone else in the conversation, has something better to say here than "I compost and re-use old floorboards in my house construction, therefore I am absolved of worrying about why I'm buying the next latest iPhone," which tends to be the lame-o way that I answer these questions.
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permalink #104 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 14:41
permalink #104 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 14:41
*Hey, I'm 105% percent for the Loris and Genevieve Bell Futurist Show. If the two of 'em somehow promise to take over my grueling State of the World duties, I'll quit typing pronto, I promise. You'll probably want to warn them that the salary's not all that great. *Since it's just been made clear that Lebkowsky and me can't be women, it's probably high time that some Gamergaters show up here to decry that sudden outburst of aggressive Cultural Marxism. I've been wondering when they'd point out to us here that Charlie Hebdo's coverage of the gaming industry was manifestly corrupt. That's probably the real source of the biggest street demo since the end of World War II.
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permalink #105 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:08
permalink #105 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:08
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-31/for-the-wealthiest-polit ical-donors-it-was-a-very-good-year *You know who'd be a great woman to query about the contemporary State of The World? Laurene Powell Jobs. Because she's the only woman in this list of men who are buying the American government wholesale.
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permalink #106 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:35
permalink #106 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:35
*That was one hell of a public demo in Paris, by the way. It was basically a social-media flash mob with all the major heads of state in Europe standing in front of it, pretending to be the Black Bloc. It was like some weird echo of 1968 with a limping, leftie DeGaulle leading the reluctant, sobbing street rebels. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/11/paris-rally-je-suis-charlie-hebdo-t errorism_n_6451414.html *People in Europe are wigging out over this incident. Of course they won't do anything constructive, because this is Europe, but one can sense from the tone of the tame press that every power broker in Europe is going to cynically exploit this opportunity to make a sudden lunge for some hot slice of the pie. Nobody's learned anything or changed their minds about anything at all, but they're one and all convinced that the massacre strongly favors their analysis. They'll all be amazed when they realize that their traditional opponents are just as reckless and emboldened. It's like being a Tumblr Social Justice Warrior who meets somebody from 4Chan. *In the meantime, the Americans are still wondering if maybe it's okay to called sliced potatoes "French fries." Years of Depression have broken people's faith in globalization. They still parrot the old Whole World slogans but their true feelings are really polarized, exclusivist, narrow and parochial. It's a "globalization of Balkanization," as Jasmina likes to put it.
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permalink #107 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:42
permalink #107 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:42
What will people say about all this in the 22nd Century? Remember me mentioning that prospect earlier, before the fishmonger and his brother shot all the cartoonist? THE 22ND CENTURY. Nobody says a word about it, it's still awaiting us, in all its grand, grey, ghastly, Stapledonian glory.
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permalink #108 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:44
permalink #108 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:44
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permalink #109 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:59
permalink #109 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 15:59
"Nobody's learned anything or changed their minds about anything at all, but they're one and all convinced that the massacre strongly favors their analysis." It's a weird reaction, in a way. Earlier I mentioned Christopher Dickey's comments that those shooters were "just a couple of jerks with guns," but they aimed, fired, and hit a global nerve.
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permalink #110 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 16:13
permalink #110 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 16:13
(Bruce slipped in with some posts while I was writing this response to Tiffany. I also scribbled the original to make a correction.) Tiffany, I've started several responses to your point about "including women's voices," but they just seem lame. We're not trying to be everything to everybody, is the best I can say. And we're not closing the door on other people, including women, who show up. I'm happy, actually honored, to see your post here. So, to your first question: "Is the treadmill of obsolescence and Moore's Law-style progress contributing significantly to the demise of our planet's ecosystem, in your opinion?" I'd say it differently: we're making the planet less human-habitable; it's the demise of the human race we should be thinking about. I'm increasingly pessimistic about the human future. We may be past a point of no return. If I'm hopeful, it's that we'll innovate our way out of the mess we're creating.
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permalink #111 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 16:41
permalink #111 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 16:41
http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/10/east-of-palo-altos-eden/ *The racial history of Silicon Valley. *From here in the Balkans, widely noted for ethnic cleansing, this is truly a strange, exotic story. Mostly because the real-estate system in the Balkans has never been sophisticated enough to manage a Californian squeeze-play of this description.
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permalink #112 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 16:51
permalink #112 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 16:51
*I don't follow a lot of jihadis on Twitter, but they're around. They're truly exhilarated by the Charlie Hebdo thing, they feel no sense of dread at having lethally offended hundreds of millions of indignant, self-righteous Europeans. On the contrary, they're like: At last, the Crusaders are waking up! We've taught them a good, healthy lesson now! We've got their attention for our major issue, they'll know better than to blaspheme our Prophet henceforth, and mankind in general will be able to breathe free without the existential perversion of some French cartoons.
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permalink #113 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:02
permalink #113 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:02
"Is the treadmill of obsolescence and Moore's Law-style progress contributing significantly to the demise of our planet's ecosystem, in your opinion?" *From the perspective of the 22nd Century? They don't even recognize that use of language. "Moore?" Who was that obscure figure? They don't even remember that period term "ecosystem." *They'd probably be pretty interested in the archaic metaphor "treadmill." A real, fully authentic treadmill was a horrible 19th century prison punishment device, but in the 22nd century so much time has passed that the horror fades. So a treadmill can only perceived as Gothically romantic, like an Iron Maiden, or a rack, or water-boarding. *I'll be a little less arch here, and state that the Internet-of-Things won't destroy everything. It won't have the time, it's too temporary. Nuclear weapons and carbon pollution and nano tech and GMO and gray goo and robots, that's stuff of the caliber that can destroy everything. The IoT is a fad. You'll outlive it -- just like you outlived the WELL as a Bulletin Board System.
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permalink #114 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:20
permalink #114 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:20
*Here are the Iranians, with their usual self-lacerating instability, though they look mighty hale and hearty now compared to their bleeding neighbors and Shiite clients in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. *Some vaguely interesting palace intrigue in the weblink here, but look at the chic Western-style designer eyeglasses on that guy. Everybody in his regime's got the close-cropped beard, the bleached and starched turban -- so the eyeglasses, that's the only narrow window of personal expression that he's got to offer to the voters. http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-referendums-irgc-rouhani-reforms/26779709.ht ml *I guess he's lucky those specs aren't Google Glass, or somebody in Tel Aviv and/or Washington would have bent every effort to hack 'em.
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permalink #115 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:29
permalink #115 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:29
Those jihadis on Twitter are in for it now that Anonymous has their number: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/anonymous-declares-war-terrorists-par is-attack-article-1.2073193 They're gonna be Fawkesed.
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permalink #116 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:38
permalink #116 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:38
Meanwhile, are the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists swooning over the sudden surge of support? "We vomit on all these people who suddenly say they are our friends, sez Charlie Hebdo cartoonist Bernard Holtrop. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/charlie-hebdo-cartoonist-scoffs-vomits-s upporters-article-1.2072906 It really makes me laugh. A few years ago, thousands of people took to the streets in Pakistan to demonstrate against Charlie Hebdo. They didn't know what it was. Now it's the opposite. But if people are protesting to defend freedom of speech, naturally that's a good thing."
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permalink #117 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:40
permalink #117 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 11 Jan 15 17:40
*Speaking of surprising Popes: a bitterly combative Texan crank, who gleefully melts icecaps and thinks Jesus rode to temple on a dinosaur, is in control of NASA in 2015. http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/11/7528337/senator-ted-cruz-nasa-subcommittee *Don't try decrying Ted as a white guy, 'cause he'll play his Canadian Hispanic card.
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permalink #118 of 198: Type A: The only type that counts! (doctorow) Sun 11 Jan 15 22:15
permalink #118 of 198: Type A: The only type that counts! (doctorow) Sun 11 Jan 15 22:15
I like Juan Cole's take on the Jihadi tactics in the Hedbo shooting: http://boingboing.net/2015/01/08/sharpening-the-contradictions.html tl;dr: French muslims are pretty apolitical and irreligious. Whatever problems they have, they don't perceive either Islamism or Islam as the answer. But if terror attacks can provoke explicitly racialized, explicitly religion-grounded reprisals against French muslims, then the jihadis' cause, with its muslims-versus-Westernism rhetoric, becomes much more plausible. Stalinists called this "sharpening the contradictions."
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permalink #119 of 198: Type A: The only type that counts! (doctorow) Sun 11 Jan 15 22:22
permalink #119 of 198: Type A: The only type that counts! (doctorow) Sun 11 Jan 15 22:22
Two takes on storage versus mass surveillance, based on recent discussions with cryptographers: * Retaining all TLS and other encrypted traffic is likely tractable. In 15 years, computing breakthroughs -- possibly quantum computing, possibly breakthroughs in mathematics -- will allow all this retained traffic to b decrypted. 15 years is not an especially long timescale for state security apparats. There are quantum-resistant crypto, but getting everything switched over to it is a heroic challenge. * Targeting all traffic from people who know how to use Tor/Tails (http://boingboing.net/2014/07/03/if-you-read-boing-boing-the-n.html) is already underway. By capturing all the cleartext messages around the encrypted traffic, most of that traffic's content can be inferred.. For example, Jonl emails me in the clear and says, "I have a leaker who wants to talk to a journalist about secret drone murders." I send encrypted email to a lawyer and Bart Gellman. Then I arrange an encrypted chat with Jonl over Cryptocat to discuss how he can talk to Bart and the lawyer. They talk over encrypted links for a while, then Bart publishes something about drones in the Washington Post. You don't have to have access to the emails I sent to the lawyer and Bart, or the encrypted chat, to infer all the things that were contained therein.
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permalink #120 of 198: awkward hybrid (satyr) Sun 11 Jan 15 22:40
permalink #120 of 198: awkward hybrid (satyr) Sun 11 Jan 15 22:40
It seems to me that one effect of all this running from and denying change is that it has eroded our ability to take on challenges composed of more than a few difficult elements. Jon, you may recall my rants in the Whole Earth conference regarding the application of robotics to agriculture and landscape management, a theme I've since taken off-Well to <http://cultibotics.blogspot.com>, and elsewhere. After years of trying to sell this idea, I've come to believe that what I'm asking for is something akin to the decision to go to the moon, in that it is both clearly possible and dependent upon technologies that do not yet exist, requiring concerted effort over a matter of years to achieve. But I look around and don't see many examples of such goal- driven concerted effort happening, at least not government led, publicly funded efforts. We seem to have developed a collective form of myopia, in inability to take on more than incremental challenges. Incrementalism is well and good, but aren't we missing opportunities that can't be reached through incremental change alone?
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permalink #121 of 198: Dodge (dodge1234) Mon 12 Jan 15 00:32
permalink #121 of 198: Dodge (dodge1234) Mon 12 Jan 15 00:32
It does seem to take a long time to get these advances in actual use. Hah. I was promised a robot maid by now. Wherezit? Altho I can clean my floors n cut my grass with one. I even saw a robot BBQ grill cleaner. Toss the little thing on after you're done cooking and it travels over the grill cleaning till you come back n take it off. Despite the scary tales of domestics gone wrong...
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permalink #122 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 12 Jan 15 02:43
permalink #122 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 12 Jan 15 02:43
*In 2015 I've been really enjoying the adventures of Samantha Cristoforetti, first Italian woman living in outer space. I follow her on Twitter, FlickR, even Google+ on occasion. http://samanthacristoforetti.esa.int @AstroSamantha is the most down-to-earth orbiting astronaut I've ever seen. She really has a deft, revelatory, social media presence. Her lively attention to the minutiae of daily life in orbit is so refreshing. You can practically *smell* the International Space Station while she's up there.
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permalink #123 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 12 Jan 15 03:23
permalink #123 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 12 Jan 15 03:23
*Another woman whose work I'll be following closely is American pundit and sometime politician, Sarah Palin. Sarah's kind of busy with the new sports-TV series bow; otherwise, I'd gladly vacate my futurist cyberpunk-chairman seat to have her sit in. *Sarah's got excellent instincts for what troubles her base and what kind of red meat they desire. Political charisma of this kind can't be learned. Most Red-State operatives are sitting around wasting the funding of moguls while trying to gerrymander electoral districts. Not Sarah. She's a natural barometer of Red State sentiment. *I've never met Sarah, but if she ever wanted to tell me something, I'm pretty sure it would be a remark that would really get to me on an immediate, visceral level. Maybe she'd explain to me why "fracking" is necessary to strengthen the Church and the Family. Just: an insight that, if I accepted it, would cause my paradigm to explode. *People on the Left like to praise themselves on "inclusiveness," but they would never, ever, include Sarah Palin in anything. Never. If she wanted to give them a blood transfusion, or tow their Volvo out of a ditch with her Alaskan 4X4, they really just wouldn't have it. *An icon of the transgressive is always interesting.
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permalink #124 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 12 Jan 15 03:26
permalink #124 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 12 Jan 15 03:26
Here is Sarah last week, leveling with the "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals." It's in social media, and it's all about dogs, but social media loves dogs. Sarah gets that. She doesn't even have to think about it. Sarah Palin added 9 new photos. January 3 at 1:55pm · Dear PETA, Chill. At least Trig didnt eat the dog. Hey, by the way, remember your Woman of the Year, Ellen DeGeneres? Did you get all wee-weed up when she posted this sweet picture? http://conservatives4palin.com/ /peta-woman-year-posts-phot ; Hypocritical, much? Did you go as crazy when your heroic Man-of-Your-Lifetime, Barack Obama, revealed he actually enjoyed eating dead dog meat? Arent you the double-standard radicals always opposing Alaskas Iditarod the Last Great Race honoring dogs who are born to run in wide open spaces, while some of your pets thrive in a concrete jungle where theyre allowed outdoors to breathe and pee maybe once a day? (http://iditarod.com/ http://www.irondog.org/) Arent you the same herd that opposes our commercial fishing jobs, claiming I encourage slaying and consuming wild, organic healthy protein sources called fish? (I do.) Arent you the same anti-beef screamers blogging hate from your comfy leather office chairs, wrapped in your fashionable leather belts above your kickin new leather pumps you bought because your celebrity idols (who sport fur and crocodile purses) grinned in a tabloid wearing the exact same Louboutins exiting sleek cowhide covered limo seats on their way to some liberal fundraiser shindig at some sushi bar that features poor dead smelly roe (that I used to strip from our Bristol Bay-caught fish, and in a Dillingham cannery I packed those castoff fish eggs for you while laughing with co-workers about the suckers paying absurdly high prices to party with the throw away parts of our wild seafood)? I believe you call those discarded funky eggs caviar. Yeah, youre real credible on this, PETA. A shame, because Ill bet we agree on what I hope is the true meaning of your mission respecting Gods creation and critters. Our pets, including Trigs best buddy Jill Hadassah, are loved, spoiled and cared for more than some people care for their fellow man whose politics may not mesh with nonsensical liberally failed ways or dont fit your flighty standards. Jill is a precious part of our world. So is Trig. - Sarah Palin
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permalink #125 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 12 Jan 15 04:29
permalink #125 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 12 Jan 15 04:29
<satyr>: "I look around and don't see many examples of such goal- driven concerted effort happening, at least not government led, publicly funded efforts." If by publicly funded, you mean government funded, this ain't an era of governemtn-funded experimentation. Otherwise if there's no clear potential profit, business won't do it. Universities won't do it. Everybody's reaching for the low-hanging muffins. As for <dadge1234>'s robot maid, I'd do with a Roomba. <bruces> was showing me video of Casa Jasmina cleverly captured by a camera mounted on the resident, very busy, Roomba they'd deployed. Those are busy little devices, and smart enough in that Kevin Kelly "out of control" way ("smart" action driven by a few simple rules.)
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