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permalink #201 of 231: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 15 Jan 19 14:58
permalink #201 of 231: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 15 Jan 19 14:58
I was a fan of the Netflix series Sense8, presented in that article as an example of the HopePunk aesthetic. https://www.netflix.com/title/80025744 "In describing the recent finale of what is perhaps the most hopepunk TV series to emerge in recent years, Sense8, Vox critic at large Todd VanDerWerff noted that the show is 'endlessly empathetic, endlessly generous,' and an 'expression of radical empathy,' before pinpointing that Sense8s 'audacious' story which earned a mixed critical reception walks hand-in-hand with its unending optimism. 'The final sequence leaves viewers with the idea that love might save the world,' VanDerWerff wrote. 'Is that beautiful or naive?' "In the framework of hopepunk, its neither. 'Hopepunk is a radical call to arms for us to imagine better,' Slack said. 'To embrace the fact that fantasy is not simply an escape from the world but an invitation to go deeper into it. That we must fall in love with the world that we so deeply wish to change.' Instead, he argues that love may be beautiful, but its also messy and painful, and far from being naive, its a conscious, hard-won and fully self-aware choice."
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permalink #202 of 231: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Tue 15 Jan 19 18:45
permalink #202 of 231: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Tue 15 Jan 19 18:45
Thank you, gmoke, for your clear & encouraging actions. Thank you jon, all the ringleader voices especially, and all, for a chance to start the year with a broadened thinking, once again, about what matters, what's interesting, what is, and what may be.
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permalink #203 of 231: Tiffany Lee Brown (T) (magdalen) Tue 15 Jan 19 21:46
permalink #203 of 231: Tiffany Lee Brown (T) (magdalen) Tue 15 Jan 19 21:46
thank you, everyone, for a truly interesting conversation. jon, thank you so much for bringing up climate insanity (how's that for a new phrase?) before we all clocked out. it is the elephant in every room. here is my little formula for attempting to save the world: 1. Stop feeding the Outrage Machine. I have also attempted to stop being fed *by* the Outrage Machine. Participation in Facebook and other amoral, nonhuman, algorithm-driven, surveillance economy systems that cajole and control mass behavior from the safety of impenetrable 'black boxes' feeds the machine, and draws us to attach our mouths to its teats, over and over, in place of sleeping, in place of attaching our real mouths to those of our lovers or their secret places, in place of tilling soil, in place of having a laugh with a friend or playing a game with our kids. Turn off Rachael Maddow. Spend at least one day every week away from digital and analogue media that force your mind to its angry, despairing surface moment after moment (that means all the news, but also put aside those big think pieces, current magazines, and books about the State of the World). Keep in mind that the Trumps and Breitbarts of this globe are far, far better than you and your compatriots at using Outrage to advantage. The more you feed this machine and allow yourself to be fed its unholy Scooby Snax of endless terror, fear, and self-righteousness, the more powerful the machine becomes. (By the way, I'm not brilliant at all this, but I'm a hell of a lot better at it than I was in November 2016, when my explorations began in earnest.) Every day that your Facebook or Instagram account exists is your endorsement of Trump, Cambridge Analytica, election interference, and a hopelessly polarized America. It doesn't matter that you, personally, are far too smart and compassionate and good and decent to use Facebook/etc in the wrong way; merely being there tells everyone around you, "Yep, you can't escape social media." But you can. Just walk away, and see if you can find your own self floating somewhere nearby. Merge with that self and walk into the forest, the desert, the sea. 2. Become Nature. You already are, after all, so why not immerse in what Nature is still here? Be with the trees that have not yet fallen or burned or been hacked down to make way for cattle and asphalt. Grind your bare heels into difficult dirt. Smell the wind on your skin. Collapse in an unspectacular heap at the foot of a sheer, rock cliffside and weep. Repeat, repeat, until you reconnect with your own pulsing planet, until you realize the umbilical cord from you to Mother Earth was never truly cut. You and yours and all the rest of us lie huddled at her breast. (Had to keep that weird teats metaphor going from a couple grafs up.) Stop taking pictures of her and reading about her on your screen. Spend an hour actually in and among her and her many creatures -- animal, vegetable, mineral, indescribable -- for every hour you spend worrying, calling senators, and signing petitions about her. 3. Be small. Your culture has told you that to be important is to be loud, to be heard, to be everywhere at once, to read everything on every subject, to lord knowledge and money and status over everything and everyone possible. That an ice shelf in Antarctica might melt into the sea before you, personally, have gotten to see it may seem unfair -- but if you keep being big, all around the globe, you and your jet fuel will be hastening the ice shelf's doom. Allow yourself to be dwarfed by the stars, the moon, the tall trees, the vast ocean. Then imagine all humanity. Be dwarfed by the inter- connected megacolony of which you are a part. See what happens when you stop resisting your relative insignificance, the short and perhaps unimportant span of your life here on Earth. Find meaning, then, in your pinkie toe. In the neighbors you did not bother to get to know before. In all the wild places nearest you. In your local government. In the school near where you live, the school bursting with young humans like great swarms of ants, those who will inherit this world of AI chess players and rising seas. Mentor one. Teach a class full. Go to School Board meetings and demand that the school start using real plates and silverware that can be washed and reused, instead of disposable plastic ones. (I have not yet won that battle, here in my small town.) Yes, the senator still deserves a call, the postcards should still go in the mail, certain protests should be marched. I placed more newspaper pieces, both journalism and political Op-Ed, in the last couple years while being "small" than I had in a very long time. That is where hyper-local focus took me. And I can see, quite directly and simply, the real effects my little, persistent actions are having. Yes, it'shopelessTrumpwarRussiaArcticRefugegovernmentshutdownoutrage- oftheday,ofthemoment,ofthenanosecond. Yes, these things are enormous. No, you do not have to be shut down and torn up by them. Look around you. Take the soil under your feet in your bare hands and smear it on your face, your chest, your knobby knees. THIS is real. THIS is what you have to save, for yourself, for your sense of meaning in a crisis- driven, threatening time -- and for those who will follow you. Save one handful of dirt for the children. For my child, my son, who is now eight years old. 4.
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permalink #204 of 231: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Wed 16 Jan 19 00:31
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permalink #205 of 231: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Wed 16 Jan 19 00:33
permalink #205 of 231: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Wed 16 Jan 19 00:33
*Yeah, I was also at that Whole Earth 50th thing, sandwiched between Wavy Gravy and Mountain Girl, and and although Wavys pretty frail now, I have to say that Mountain Girl cheered me up. Shes quite the indestructible Bohemian matriarch, full of sturdy gravitas. Theres something timeless about Carolyn Garcia: she was like Robert Louis Stevensons Californian girlfriend, the indomitable soul who pitches in when it looks like hes coughing his lungs out and then trucks right along to Samoa and world artistic fame: hey, long strange trip, no big problem.
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permalink #206 of 231: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Wed 16 Jan 19 00:35
permalink #206 of 231: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Wed 16 Jan 19 00:35
*This is what the Whole Earth/WIRED/CoolTools electronicized scene looks like when youre not from around here. http://justinmcguirk.com/cool-tools-kevin-kelly This cultural analysis may seem kinda condescending and maybe a little British and snooty, but its nice that it grounds California counterculture in a larger historical process. As I said at the Whole Earth 50th, you might well blame Henry Ford for a traffic jam, but to blame Henry Ford for todays self-driving cars is a category error. Tomorrow composts today. Theres a melancholy in learning that your dreams and intentions get packed down in the mulch of the passing years; that a crystalline gesture loses its sharp edges; that historic fame turns famous people into cartoon parodies of themselves. On the other hand, there really is a lot of mortal rubbish around us, and the passage of years transforms that rubbish into a rich vitality. Theres always some fresh, naive, un-jaded guy coming along. He can stick a pitchfork into a stack of high-weirdness like that, and holy cow, look out. I gotta get to some typing now; Ive got some deadlines, and, well, happy to have the schedule, it's good to have marks on the calendar. Ill be back next year, with any luck. So long for now.
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permalink #207 of 231: Tom Valovic (tvacorn) Wed 16 Jan 19 06:38
permalink #207 of 231: Tom Valovic (tvacorn) Wed 16 Jan 19 06:38
https://www.thenation.com/article/climate-change-fossil-fuel-capitalism-divorc e/
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permalink #208 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Wed 16 Jan 19 07:06
permalink #208 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Wed 16 Jan 19 07:06
So long Bruce, have a great year! It really has been a good conversation this time around. T, I love your formula, especially #4. Appropriate link, Tom. Looking forward to closing thoughts others may have, as there are so many interesting paths not fully taken in the posts above. For me, I'd like to close with one last report from the composted field. While I've been sick over the last few days, I've been reading a book called Native Pragmatism, by Scott L. Pratt. As I've said, I've been interested in all things indigenous this year, and what this book does is look at the Native American roots in the American pragmatic tradition. Instead of taking the position that American philosophy is a continuation of European thought upon encountering the condition of "wilderness," and that new ideas are a spontaneous result, explained by creativity and genius, Pratt argues that, "American pragmatism begins along the border between Native and European America as an attitude of resistance against the dominant attitudes of European colonialism." Why is that relevant here? Because it is about trying to, "respond to the problems faced by those who find themselves in a place where radically different peoples meet and seek to coexist." The four elements of this thread of resistance that he identifies are commitments to interaction, pluralism, community and growth. (By growth, he doesn't mean "bigger and better;" he means more like, "the purpose of life is to create conditions conducive to life." Sound like any current national conversations? What I want to close with though, is not any detail on his arguments, but a quote from his introduction. In it he mentions those who have proposed similar things in the past, and brings up a 1952 essay called "Americanizing the White Man" by Felix S. Cohen. Cohen describes going to a meeting where the Commissioner on Indian Affairs asked a group of Native people how the Bureau could best "Americanize the Indian." A Native American man in the audience arose and replied this way: "You will forgive me if I tell you that my people were Americans thousands of years before your people were. The question is not how you can Americanize us but how we can Americanize you. We have been working at that for a long time. Sometimes we are discouraged at the results. But we will keep trying. "And the first thing we want to teach you is that, in the American way of life, each man has respect for his brother's vision. Because each of us respected his brother's dream, we enjoyed freedom here in America while your people were busy killing and enslaving each other across the water. The relatives you left behind are still trying to kill each other and enslave each other because they have not learned that freedom is built on my respect for my brother's vision and his respect for mine. "We have a hard trail ahead of us in trying to Americanize you and your white brothers. But we are not afraid of hard trails."
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permalink #209 of 231: Via email from Giorgos Georgiadis (jonl) Wed 16 Jan 19 07:13
permalink #209 of 231: Via email from Giorgos Georgiadis (jonl) Wed 16 Jan 19 07:13
Thanks everyone for pitching in, I now have 'cataclysm' too, and of course there no problem with any combination of 'new', 'dark' and 'age' Bruce. I think they give the right tone. I love your story in particular keta, I see what you mean. It made me think and it made me hopeful, and these are the best stories. If this was a dharma battle, you would have won. (And how I would like to see AlphaZero engaged in a dharma battle! AlphaZen anyone?) 'Crisis' as a word is very much alive and in daily use in the Greek language: it means judgment, as in 'Judgment's Day' (no ominous undertones there, no sir) but also as in 'use your judgement'. Naturally it means also 'crisis' in the English sense, which I am to understand got associated with through 'decision', as in 'tension that is gradually being build up, leading to a decision point'. To answer your question Jane, I guess my objection is 'can we still talk about a crisis if there is no decision point?' At what point do we stop waiting for it? How do we help people understand and perhaps do something? Any one thing of the topics discussed here, really - go Dark Mountain, go German Greens, go light/notice/tend to the candles in our New Dark, ... Love all of those choices btw, and I understand inaction too (not being inaction at all some times - just life), but I'm not sure it's going to be enough this time around. I am with Paul Virilio on this, when he says (in his "Administration of Fear") that besides the atomic bomb, in the 21st we got ourselves an ecological bomb as well as an informational one. Tall order, with or without our leftover roman infrastructure.
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permalink #210 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Sun 27 Jan 19 11:05
permalink #210 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Sun 27 Jan 19 11:05
The Nolichucky River, in East Tennessee, is polluted with enriched uranium, plutonium, and thallium. In the long run, will reducing CO2 solve anything meaningful when our air, soil and water are still contaminated with such poisons? Yes, we need to clean up the destruction made by modern man, but reducing CO2 is just one factor. Why does it get so much of the spotlight? Doesn't focusing on CO2 take away awareness on other forms of pollution, ones that will take thousands, if not millions of years to be resolved? I'm not advocating for CO2, or minimizing it's threat. I'm just pointing out that modern man has produced a multitude of environmental threats to life on earth, yet CO2 gets the bulk of this press. Could this be misdirection?
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permalink #211 of 231: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 27 Jan 19 11:08
permalink #211 of 231: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 27 Jan 19 11:08
CO2 is a global existential threat. It's not wrong to give it particular emphasis.
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permalink #212 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Tue 29 Jan 19 09:05
permalink #212 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Tue 29 Jan 19 09:05
Because tipping points, sadly. When you are dealing with a set of interrelated processes and feedback loops, there can come times when gradual changes to values become essentially irreversable shifts to a different state or condition - hence existential threat. Yes, the radioactivity spreading via the Nolichucky will gradually poison a larger and larger area for a profoundly long time, which is truly dangerous and important. And yes, cleaning up the contamination sources sooner rather than later will make the problem smaller rather than bigger. But with climate change we can identify very near term tipping points where gradual becomes catastrophically different. Someone mentioned the "game over methane burp" during the conversation - this is an example. It's fairly easy to see that if the conditions for ice cap melting persist, eventually you will melt all the ice, and to suspect that you will no longer have the conditions available whereby ice could begin to re-accumulate. But we now also know that vast amounts of methane (the shorter-term but faster-acting greenhouse gas) are kept out of the atmosphere because they are frozen into the tundra or kept too cool to release in undersea areas. When the permafrost melts enough, or when the ocean temperature increases enough in certain areas, the methane releases and enters the atmosphere. This is a process that we recognize we have no known capability to modify or reverse, and it begins long before the time when all the ice melts. In fact it is beginning in some areas now. Going back to the radioactive release example, say there is a giant rusting tank of water at the radioactive source. The difference between preventing the tank from bursting and gathering back up all the spilled water from the ends of the earth after it does burst is the difference we are talking about.
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permalink #213 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Wed 30 Jan 19 09:48
permalink #213 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Wed 30 Jan 19 09:48
By existential threat, I'm guessing you mean "human" existence? Life has existed on Earth for 4 billion years, through all kinds of conditions. CO2 has fluctuated on a cyclic basis. CO2 isn't toxic; in fact, it's basic to life on earth. Plants break it down. As a mind exercise, consider what would happen to life on earth if humans disappeared tomorrow. Which would be the greater threat to all remaining life on earth, CO2 or the toxic and radioactive pollutants created by man? Eventually the man made CO2 would decrease, but the bio-persistent creations like Uranium 238 and C8 would be poisoning life for thousands of years. C8, a chemical used to make Scotchguard and Teflon, is now ubiquitous in the human blood stream. It's not breaking down any time soon. Count me as someone whose loyalty is first to life on earth, and not the human race. The human race will pass. That's a given. Geologically speaking, we've been here a minute, and probably only have only a few seconds left. If the human race won't face the fact that we've poisoned the planet out of greed, then we don't deserve to exist.
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permalink #214 of 231: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Wed 30 Jan 19 11:19
permalink #214 of 231: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Wed 30 Jan 19 11:19
> CO2 isn't toxic Try living in an atmosphere that's 2% CO2.
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permalink #215 of 231: Alan Fletcher (af) Wed 30 Jan 19 11:32
permalink #215 of 231: Alan Fletcher (af) Wed 30 Jan 19 11:32
Had to look that up. I thought it was asphyxiation only. At low levels it's safe .. up to 1,000 ppm At intermediate levels you can get CO2 intoxication or poisoning 5000 ppm is the max permissible workspace exposure At very high levels asphyxiation gets you: > 40,000 ppm (4%?) <https://www.thoughtco.com/causes-of-carbon-dioxide-poisoning-606390>
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permalink #216 of 231: Alan Fletcher (af) Wed 30 Jan 19 11:33
permalink #216 of 231: Alan Fletcher (af) Wed 30 Jan 19 11:33
Levels : <https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2016/04/01/Carbon-Dioxide-Detection-and-Indoor- Air-Quality-Control.aspx>
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permalink #217 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Wed 30 Jan 19 14:32
permalink #217 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Wed 30 Jan 19 14:32
As for clean up of radioactive waste, I suggest watching Atomic Homefront. We can't even clean up our very first atomic weapons waste. We aren't anywhere close to toxic CO2 levels. As humans, we face many existential threats. For some reason, CO2 is the only one anybody gets worked up over. That strikes me as normal human hubris: we usually don't see what hits us, but we think we can. Isn't the heart of the man made CO2 problem the vicious cycle of modernity and overpopulation? Can you imagine 8 billion people, all owning cars, computers, house with central heat, air conditioning and fridges? Because, how can we have that, and not have CO2? Where do we draw the line, and say, no, you can't have what these other people have?
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permalink #218 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Thu 31 Jan 19 09:18
permalink #218 of 231: John Spears (banjojohn) Thu 31 Jan 19 09:18
Interesting BBC story out today. <https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47063973> Wouldn't the corollary indicate that the contemporary destruction of the rain forest should be a major cause of the modern increase in CO2. If such a small increase in vegetation could have a global effect on climate in the 15th to 18th century, then it seems logical that the first step in stemming and reversing CO2 increases would be protecting and even expanding the rain forest. While the US seems poised on invading Venezuela for oil, shouldn't we be invading Brazil in order to restore the rain forest?
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permalink #219 of 231: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 31 Jan 19 11:31
permalink #219 of 231: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 31 Jan 19 11:31
Easier simply to vacate our own prairies and the Appalachians.
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permalink #220 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Fri 1 Feb 19 07:42
permalink #220 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Fri 1 Feb 19 07:42
Very good points in <213>, and I do understand what you mean by the relatively greater importance of bio-persistent creations in the long run. Also though, no, I don't mean human existence for the existential threat. I mean much closer to all remaining life on earth, and the threat comes not from the CO2 itself, but from the disruption of relationships that cause ecosystem collapses. Humans will be here in 50 or 100 years (wandering around is some stunned fashion), but will coral? That BBC story is very interesting.
alden, say more about that?
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permalink #222 of 231: Andrew Alden (alden) Sun 26 May 19 13:43
permalink #222 of 231: Andrew Alden (alden) Sun 26 May 19 13:43
People persistently focus on trees, when the far greater repository of carbon is in the soil. The Appalachians are marginal land for anything but forestry, so, better to leave the soil there alone. Much of the Great Plains is unsustainable for agriculture (see Ogallala aquifer, depletion of) and should be encouraged to return to mature prairie.
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permalink #223 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Fri 14 Jun 19 08:47
permalink #223 of 231: Rip Van Winkle (keta) Fri 14 Jun 19 08:47
Would stopping pumping from the Ogalalla aquifer allow it to recharge over time? Asking as a geological question - is/was the water in it from surface rainfall, or is it a lens in a lower layer, ancient water trapped by geology?
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permalink #224 of 231: Andrew Alden (alden) Fri 14 Jun 19 10:26
permalink #224 of 231: Andrew Alden (alden) Fri 14 Jun 19 10:26
It's mostly ancient water, being very slowly recharged by precipitation.
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permalink #225 of 231: those Andropovian bongs (rik) Fri 14 Jun 19 10:47
permalink #225 of 231: those Andropovian bongs (rik) Fri 14 Jun 19 10:47
It's an ice age artifact, ISTR. It's apt to be a while before the next one.
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