inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #0 of 281: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 29 Dec 23 11:54
permalink #0 of 281: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 29 Dec 23 11:54
Welcome to the 2024 State of the World conversation, hosted by the trailblazing online community platform, The WELL. I'm Jon Lebkowsky, co-host at the Plutopia News Network, also co-host of the Inkwell.vue forum here on the WELL. This is our 25th annual State of the World conversation. You can find links to all of the annual State of the World conversations at <https://weblogsky.com/state-of-the-world/>. My partner in this annual conversation is Bruce Sterling - author, journalist, and world traveler. Bruce has written popular and influential science fiction novels, particularly within the cyberpunk subgenre which he helped create. He's also written a number of features as a journalist as well as nonfiction books, including _The Hacker Crackdown. Law and Disorder on the Electronic Frontier_. He's also a popular speaker and design critic. His insights create the framework for this annual conversation, which began when I interviewed Bruce here in 2000 about the "a Viridian future." <inkwell.vue 61>: Bruce Sterling: A Viridian Future Other members of the WELL will be joining the conversation. If you're reading this and you don't have an account on the WELL, you can send comments and/or questions to inkwell at well.com.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #1 of 281: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 29 Dec 23 11:56
permalink #1 of 281: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 29 Dec 23 11:56
As we stumble into 2024, the State of the World is stumbling with us. Our planet is overheating, authoritarians are moving to squash democracy (ironically finding power through ~democratic elections), our minds are occupied by narratives planted via manipulation of media, mass and social, attention commodified to serve the gods of commerce and power. Post-pandemic we've seen the global economy rebound, but looming threats like climate change, ongoing global conflicts and wars, social inequality and receding democracy are significant, possibly catastrophic issues. Technological advancements offer some solutions, but navigating their equitable distribution and tackling pressing issues like economic slowdown and resource scarcity remain crucial challenges. Ultimately, the narrative of our world depends on whether we choose cooperation and sustainable progress over division and short-term gains.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #2 of 281: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 29 Dec 23 11:58
permalink #2 of 281: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 29 Dec 23 11:58
Trends/concerns going into 2024... 1. Climate Change Catastrophes: The effects of climate change are becoming increasingly evident, with more extreme weather events such as heatwaves, droughts, floods, and wildfires. These events are causing widespread damage and loss of life, and they are only expected to become more frequent and severe in the years to come. 2. Rising Political Polarization: Political polarization continues to worsen, with both sides becoming increasingly entrenched in their own views and unwilling to compromise. This has led to gridlock in government, increased social division, and a rise in political extremism. 3. Cyberwarfare Threats: Cyberwarfare is becoming an increasingly serious threat, with nations and non-state actors developing sophisticated cyberweapons that can be used to attack critical infrastructure, steal sensitive data, and disrupt communications. 4. Information pollution (misinformation and disinformation): The spread of misinformation and disinformation is a major challenge, eroding trust in institutions and making it difficult to have informed public discourse. This is being exacerbated by social media platforms, which can amplify the reach of false information. 5. Social Media Addiction and Mental Health: Social media addiction is a growing problem, particularly among young people. This can lead to anxiety, depression, and other mental health problems. Additionally, social media platforms are increasingly being used to spread misinformation and hate speech, which can have a negative impact on mental health. 6. AI Job Displacement: AI has the potential to automate certain tasks and jobs, leading to job displacement in some industries. Routine and repetitive tasks are more susceptible to automation, while jobs that require creativity, emotional intelligence, and complex problem-solving are less likely to be easily replaced by AI. But AI also has the potential to create new jobs and industries. As technology evolves, it often opens up opportunities for innovation and the development of new skill sets. So we'll likely see disruption and shifts in demand for skills - it's a complex situation with a lack of clarity about the impact on global employment. 7. Growing Anti-Science Sentiment: There is a growing anti-science sentiment in some parts of the world, with people rejecting scientific evidence on issues such as climate change and vaccinations. This is a dangerous trend that can have serious consequences for public health and safety. 8. Increased Surveillance and Privacy Concerns: Governments and companies are collecting more data about people than ever before, raising concerns about privacy and the potential for misuse of this data. 9. Global Food Crisis: The war in Ukraine and other factors are contributing to a global food crisis, with rising food prices and shortages of essential supplies. This is putting millions of people at risk of hunger and malnutrition. There's also a water crisis: 771 million people -- 1 in 10 -- lack access to safe water and 1.7 billion people -- 1 in 4 -- lack access to improved sanitation. 10. Deepfakes and the Erosion of Trust: Deepfakes, realistic videos that can be used to make it appear as if someone is saying or doing something they never did, have become increasingly sophisticated and widespread. This raises concerns about the erosion of trust in media, the potential for manipulation, and the possibility of deepfakes being used for malicious purposes.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #3 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:03
permalink #3 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:03
Twenty-five years of this ritual? Good Lord, no wonder we're so antique and creaky. On the bright side, a quarter of a century gives you tradition and continuity. For 2024, I'm anticipating 2023 redux. It's the same thing. No better. The climate's definitely worse, the ongoing land-war's a little worse, the same oligarchs and blowhard demagogues suck all the social and political oxygen out of the room, only they're more tiresome, less exciting, novel and provocative. The ongoing plague is a pandemic and it's part of the human condition. Which is to say, continuity. Also, I'm logging in from in Ibiza for this State of the World, as I've been doing for years. I seem to have sunk into this rocky little Balearic island, there's no particular novelty about that, it's become the routine. A tradition.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #4 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:05
permalink #4 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:05
However, being a science fiction writer, I really don't like to be this staid, boring; and lamentably predictable. "More of the same, only more visible decline and it feels worse," that is very much a guy-of-70 lived experience. And, yeah, here in 2024, I'm becoming a guy of seventy. I can rightfully boast of impressive futurist chops now, because I've survived so much past. So, still, clearly -- in an attempt to keep WELL SotW readers engaged who aren't dusty septuagenarians -- I'm gonna need some sources of off-the-wall futuristical razzmatazz.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #5 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:06
permalink #5 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:06
That's why, this year, 02024, I'm gonna be calling on the State of the World services of a notable young guest-celebrity with his own point-of-view: the Microsoft Bing GPT-4 large-language-model. I know this young, up-to-date Bing guy pretty well by now, because I frequently "human-AI collaborate" with him, meaning that I type some prompting phrase and I hit RETURN, and he does all the verbal organizational work that a "creative writer" like me would normally have to do (and maybe get paid for). Bing works for "free" (meaning, for Microsoft platform surveillance) and his grammar and punctuation are great. A lot of people still don't use Bing GPT-4, or any of the other newfangled, super-sort-of-informed, modern neural-net chatbots, either, but I don't this fellow needs further introduction. So, let's hear what he has to offer us. "Bing, what is the state of the world in 2024?"
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #6 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:07
permalink #6 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:07
**** "Hello, this is Bing. I can give you some information about the world in 2024 based on the latest news and web sources. "Here are some of the main topics that are happening around the globe: "Ukraine-Russia conflict: The situation in Ukraine has escalated into a full-scale war, with Russia launching air strikes and shelling across the border, killing dozens of civilians and injuring hundreds more. Ukraine accuses Russia of using banned weapons and violating international law, while Russia claims it is defending its interests and allies in the region. The UN Security Council has condemned the violence and called for an immediate ceasefire, but the prospects of a diplomatic solution seem bleak."
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #7 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:08
permalink #7 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:08
"Climate change: The world is facing a climate emergency, with extreme weather events, natural disasters, and rising sea levels threatening millions of lives and livelihoods. The COP26 summit in Glasgow in 2023 resulted in a historic agreement to limit global warming to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels, but many experts warn that the pledges made by countries are not enough to achieve this goal. The year 2024 will be crucial for implementing and monitoring the actions and commitments made at the summit, as well as for mobilizing public awareness and support for the transition to a low-carbon future."
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #8 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:08
permalink #8 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:08
"US presidential election: The race for the White House is heating up, with former President Donald Trump announcing his bid for a second term in 2024, despite being impeached twice and banned from social media platforms. He faces a tough challenge from the Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, who became the first woman and person of color to serve as vice president under Joe Biden. The election is expected to be highly polarized and contentious, with issues such as the pandemic, the economy, immigration, and climate change dominating the agenda. "These are some of the major issues that are shaping the world in 2024. If you want to know more about any of them, you can ask me for more details or visit the links I provided. Thank you for using Bing."
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #9 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:09
permalink #9 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 1 Jan 24 01:09
*Thanks so much for that input, Bing! Any WELL reader can witness that Bing directly validates what me and Jon Lebkowsky are also saying about the state of the world. The year 2024 is all about climate crisis and warfare (it's great that he agrees). As for "President Kamala Harris," her formal nomination is especially exciting and unusual. I bet you really didn't expect that "black swan," eh? *With Bing "hallucinating" for us in this way, we WELLperns won't need the long-established, continuous WELL-user tradition of gobbling psyechedelic substances at the keyboard. Because, man, Bing excels at that. *I promise that he'll be back later during our two-week discussions!
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #10 of 281: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 1 Jan 24 07:01
permalink #10 of 281: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 1 Jan 24 07:01
A Substack newsletter I actually pay money to support: Heather Cox Richardson's "Letters from an American." Richardson is a historian teaching at Boston College, and author of several books, the latest of which is _Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America_. Her superpower is her ability to explain the historical context for the state of the USA, if not the world. You can get an idea what she's seeing from the title of her latest book and the preceding one published in 2020: _ow the South Won the Civil War: Oligarchy, Democracy, and the Continuing Fight for the Soul of America_. One of her most recent newsletters was inspired by Republican candidate Nikki Haley's recent gaffe, omitting slavery when asked about the cause of the American Civil War. She calls it "It was the death knell of the Republican Party," a party that was originally built on opposition to slavery in the Civil War era. <https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/december-29-2023> She includes this bit of history: "In the years after the Civil War, the Republican vision of a harmony of economic interest among all Americans quickly swung toward the idea of protecting those at the top of society, with the argument that industrial leaders were the ones who created jobs for urban workers. Ever since, the party has alternated between Lincoln's theory that the government must work for those at the bottom and the theory of the so-called robber barons, who echoed the elite enslavers' idea that the government must protect the wealthy. "During the Progressive Era, Theodore Roosevelt reclaimed Lincoln's philosophy and argued for a strong government to rein in the industrialists and financiers who dominated society; a half-century later, Dwight Eisenhower followed the lead of Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt and used the government to regulate business, provide a basic social safety net, promote infrastructure, and protect civil rights." What's happening now in the USA is another in a series of attempts to abolish the progressive vision for the USA and return to a view of a government that protects the rich, and how recently "the power in the party shifted from those trying to protect wealthy Americans to Trump, who increasingly aligned with foreign autocrats." "MAGA's determination to impose white Christian nationalism on the United States of America is a rejection of the ideology of the Republican Party in all its phases. Rather than either an active government that defends equal rights and opportunity or a small government that protects property and relies on market forces, which Republicans stood for as recently as eight years ago, today's Republicans advocate a strong government that imposes religious rules on society." This is part of a global autocratic movement that includes Russia (Vladimir Putin) and Hungary (Viktor Orban). The state of the world currently is aggressive attack on democracies and progressive states and potential creation of a network of dictatorships. At this point, even Ronald Reagan seems like a leftist in the context of the contemporary "MAGA" Republican party. Here's a famous Reagan quote: "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still." You won't see that on this cycle's Republican platform. In fact, in 2020 they didn't feel that they needed a platform - just a candidate seeking power.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #11 of 281: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 1 Jan 24 07:54
permalink #11 of 281: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 1 Jan 24 07:54
Welcome back, Bruce. Hello, all. For those who dont know me, Im a longtime WELL member (and since the fall, co-host of Inkwell) and environmental journalist. For the past few years Ive been a contributing editor at DeSmog, where we document, investigate and report on climate denial and disinformation. Jon, to your state of the world list, Id like to add: women losing hard-won rights; the extinction crisis paralleling the climate crisis; further attacks on and erosion of the free press worldwide; and new heights of wealth concentration among a minute percentage of people.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #12 of 281: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 1 Jan 24 08:08
permalink #12 of 281: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 1 Jan 24 08:08
For the sake of our collective mental health, though, heres a list of whats good in the world at the start of 2024, from the astute cookies at electoral-vote.com: This Week in Freudenfreude: Good News from Around the Earth For the last freudenfreude of the year, we thought we'd do a rundown of some of the good news that 2023 brought, around the globe. And so: Pandemic I: COVID-19 is still with us, but the worst is in the rearview mirror. There are both vaccines and medications that are generally effective, the World Health Organization has declared it is no longer a global emergency, and the Global Happiness Index is back to where it was before the pandemic hit. Pandemic II: Medicines that treat those individuals affected with AIDS, and that block transmission to new carriers, raise the very real possibility that the disease will be effectively eradicated by 2030. Begone!: Individual countries have also had success with vanquishing epidemic diseases. Bangladesh became the first country to eliminate visceral leishmaniasis, Iraq became the seventeenth to eliminate trachoma, and Belize has banished malaria from its borders. Golden Age of Medicine: In addition to the above advances, 2023 saw the introduction of promising new cancer treatments based on mRNA, dramatic progress toward cracking the code on Alzheimer's Disease, the promulgation of a new cost-effective malaria vaccine, the release of the first RSV vaccine, the creation of two new treatments for sickle cell disease, and the development of a new pill that targets postpartum depression. Fossil Fuels: Nearly 200 nations signed an agreement at COP28 to "transition away from fossil fuels." It's not the end for fossil-fuel-based energy, obviously, but it's a big first step. Also on that front, global carbon emissions and emissions from China both dropped for the first time ever, thanks primarily to increased adoption of wind, solar and hydroelectric power. Worldwide, for every $1 invested in fossil fuel extraction in 2023, $1.80 was invested in renewables. This year also saw the launch of the world's largest solar farm (in the United Arab Emirates) and the world's largest wind farm (in the United Kingdom). 1.21 Gigawatts: Scientists are also getting closer to making nuclear fusion a reality, potentially unlocking a major source of power that is much more eco-friendly than fission-based energy. Electric Vehicles: Industrialized countries around the world saw record sales of electric vehicles. In the U.S., EVs now account for 8% of all new vehicle purchases. Gay Pride, Worldwide: Five nations began allowing same-sex partnerships in 2023: South Korea, Peru, Estonia, Latvia and Nepal. Wage Gap: Women workers in the U.S. still earn less than men, but the aggregate gap is as narrow as it has ever been, with the ratio for full-time workers now standing at 84 cents (women) for every dollar (men). Votes for Women: The final holdout in the world, Vatican City, granted suffrage to women in 2023. Women now have the legal right to vote everywhere, even if their rights are not always observed (ahem, Afghanistan). We narrowed it down to 10, to make things manageable, but this is not an exhaustive accounting by any means. The world is getting better, in many ways, even if most of the stuff we hear about is how it's getting worse.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #13 of 281: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 1 Jan 24 16:17
permalink #13 of 281: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 1 Jan 24 16:17
As host of <ai.ind.> ... (chatGPT4 isn't up to date) Bard, what is the state of the world in 2024? Just a few paragraphs. 2024 dawns amidst both uncertainty and opportunity. The hangover from 2023's challenges lingers, a potent mix of geopolitical tensions, climate anxieties, and a teetering global economy. In the coming year, the world may be navigating: Election whirlwinds: With over 60 countries holding elections, including critical ones in the US and Taiwan, political landscapes face potential reshuffles, impacting everything from trade alliances to regional security. Geopolitical ripples: The ongoing Ukraine war continues casting a long shadow, while rising US-China competition and regional flashpoints simmer, testing international cooperation and pushing alliances. Climate pressures: Extreme weather events like floods and droughts are expected to intensify, demanding greater focus on resilience and adaptation, while the race for clean energy solutions gains momentum. Economic tightrope walk: Inflation and a potentially sluggish global economy could trigger social unrest and fuel protectionist policies, further fracturing interconnectedness. But amidst these challenges, glimmers of hope shine through. Technological advancements in renewables, healthcare, and AI offer glimpses of a brighter future. International collaborations on climate change and pandemic preparedness are increasing, showing renewed commitment to collective action. Additionally, grassroots movements advocating for social justice and equality continue to gather strength. Overall, 2024 presents a complex picture. It's a year where the choices we make as individuals and communities will significantly shape the future. Whether we face the challenges with unity and innovation, or succumb to division and stagnation, remains to be seen. - - - - - Bard's Google-Check confirms the first two paragraphs, nothing disproved.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #14 of 281: Andrew Alden (alden) Mon 1 Jan 24 16:34
permalink #14 of 281: Andrew Alden (alden) Mon 1 Jan 24 16:34
I like human voices that offer insight over artificial ones that don't.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #15 of 281: Jef Poskanzer (jef) Mon 1 Jan 24 19:24
permalink #15 of 281: Jef Poskanzer (jef) Mon 1 Jan 24 19:24
People with no insight to offer like AIs that let them fake it.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #16 of 281: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 1 Jan 24 19:38
permalink #16 of 281: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 1 Jan 24 19:38
Bard responding to Bing's <5-6>
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #17 of 281: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 1 Jan 24 19:41
permalink #17 of 281: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 1 Jan 24 19:41
For unwellians : <5-6> means posts 5 to 6 of this topic. I don't know if that's clickable if you're not logged in.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #18 of 281: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 1 Jan 24 20:42
permalink #18 of 281: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 1 Jan 24 20:42
This conversation is world-readable, i.e. can be read by anyone on or off the WELL, the online community platform that is hosting the two week discussion. Here's a short link for access to the public version: <http://tinyurl.com/sotw2024> The full link is <https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/540/Bruce-Sterling-and-Jon-Leb kowsky-page01.html> Please share on social media or with anyone who might be interested in reading. If you're reading this conversation, and you're not a member of the WELL, you won't be able to post directly. However if you have a comment or question, send it to the email address inkwell at well.com, and we'll post it here. If you're not a member of the WELL, but you'd like to participate in more conversations like this, you can join the WELL: <https://www.well.com/join/> The WELL is an online conferencing system and a virtual community with ongoing conversations about many subjects - a great alternative to drive-by posting on social media. This conversation will last for two weeks, through January 15. In order to read the whole conversation, we encourage you to return regularly and, since the discussion will grow into multiple pages, use the pager (dropdown at the top and the bottom of the page).
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #19 of 281: (chrys) Mon 1 Jan 24 20:59
permalink #19 of 281: (chrys) Mon 1 Jan 24 20:59
Total agreement with Andrew (#14). Bring on the humans!
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #20 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:08
permalink #20 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:08
My young friend Bing will be back, but it's time for me to humanly confront the new year's ongoing land-war in Europe. Although it's a melancholy topic, I spend a lot of time with it. I've spent time in Russia and Ukraine, and the war ongoing there also has many commonalities with the Yugoslav war, which preoccupied me so much that I even married into it. There were a lot of Yugoslav personalities involved in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, which was natural, because, like in Serbia Croatia Bosnia etc, it's a bunch of Slavic guys fiercely beating up other Slavic guys when nobody else can tell them apart with a microscope.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #21 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:09
permalink #21 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:09
My particular barometer figure in this war, the ex-Yugo vet Igor "Strelkov`' Girkin, ended up in Russian prison with no particular charges and no public trial. Strelkov's suffering angina pectoris in there while expecting somebody to poison him. He's also trying to "run for president," (somewhat like his hated colleague, Alexei Navalny, who's in prison like Strelkov, but in Siberia). The heroic Strelkov was an angelic ethnoliberation figure in his own mind, and he was the progenitor of today's massive shooting war in many ways, but his own side threw him into the slammer. A significant development -- for him and people like him, anyway.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #22 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:11
permalink #22 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:11
So Strelkov's version of a People's Liberation Struggle really went skewed, it's old-fashioned, over. Strelkov used to lead events from the global spook-warrior avant-garde. He lost the thread and became yesterday's man, because the "Little Green Man" thing just isn't working. The "Little Green Man," also known in Russian slang as `'the Polite One,`' is an armed covert operator. He's a plausibly deniable Russian operative, not a deep-cover civilian spy, but an other-than-war armed operator. He's there to fatally poison somebody, to set fire to an arms plant, to gather an armed gang and take over a police station, and, eventually foment a coup and move his area-of-operations into Russian influence. He has some autonomy for his own supplies and fund-raising; if he makes some mafia money offshore, or human-smuggles people, or seizes an oil well or something, that's okay, too.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #23 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:15
permalink #23 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:15
There were quite a lot of these Little Green Men around besides their moral leader Strelkov, especially `'Wagner Group." Of course, as a class, they're by no means restricted to Russian patronage. There are literal private armies of sort-of-Blackwater people here and there, offshored Turks with drones in the dunes of Libya, etc etc. They're hard to count, because nobody official wants to count them. For a good while in the past ten years of so, they even seemed quite sucessfully menacing and efficient, and even like geopolitical 5D chess for a while, truly subversive and tricky. But in 2024, they seem to be to be done with, except in Africa. Mostly it's because the covert pretense is over. The Ukraine-Russia War is very loud and blatant indeed, it's not a `'special operation" or anything with political cover. This is a big, tank-grinding, trench-digging, attritional military conflict that's draining the arsenals of the whole planet. Polite Green Men need not apply. So how long will it last? Quite a while more. I think it can last as long as the Syrian War and the Libyan War, and for similar reasons because they're all geopolitically linked.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #24 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:17
permalink #24 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:17
The "Little Green Men," who were always "plausibly deniable" figures -- they're volunteer martyrs, and if you shoot one, the Russians pay no attention -- have been replaced by a new successor species, the "meat soldier.' The "meat soldier" also volunteers, most of the time., anyhow. The pioneer "meat soldiers" were recruited straight of out Russian prisons by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the deceased paymaster (and chef) of the Wagner Group green-man contingent. The meat-soldiers are expendable. They're not deployed to win battles themselves. They're scarcely soldiery at all, for they have very little training, lousy uniforms, rusty small-arms, iffy food supplies, etc. Instead, they're deployed to dig ditches and attract enemy fire in the ongoing trench war, while under the icy gaze of drones and satellites. When the enemy is forced to shoot the meat-soldiers, the enemy makes themselves visible to automated surveillance. Then the enemy is pounded with artillery, and also missiles. These weapons are manned by professional Russian soldiery, who aren't getting killed, because they have this underclass "meat soldier" bait force deployed in front of them. The meat-soldiers are historically similar to gulag forced-labor battalions; they're not entirely novel. The Russians get it about managing massed groups of this kind.
inkwell.vue.540
:
Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2024
permalink #25 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:18
permalink #25 of 281: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 2 Jan 24 01:18
So the war, as it stands, is about Ukraine throwing away (extremely posh and expensive) NATO weaponry, versus Russia deploying waves of expendable meat-soldiers and battalions of cheap artillery. The Russians also randomly hammer the Ukrainian civilian population, but not, like, Dresden-firestorm style. The Russian still officially imagine that they'll own those cities someday. And, also, if they really flatten cities in huge civilian massacres, there will be reprisals. The Russians have suffered military losses that do matter to them: not the meat-soldiers, but navy depots, ships of the line, pipelines, fighter-jets, even a submarine.
Members: Enter the conference to participate. All posts made in this conference are world-readable.