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permalink #0 of 43: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:01
permalink #0 of 43: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:01
For the next two weeks, we'll be diving into In Formation Magazine <https://informationmagazine.com>, which has just released its long-awaited third issue--25 years after issue two. Its tagline: "Every day, computers are making people easier to use." In Formation is a cult publication exploring what technology does to us, written by insiders who know the industry from the inside out. Issue #3 upholds the magazine's reputation for meticulous production: heavy stock paper, elegant design, and eclectic content ranging from a graphic novel and photo-essay to a flexidisc of music by The Layoffs (a band of the magazine's own art crew). The tone blends the serious with the satirical, offering sharp critiques of tech culture. True to tradition, the only advertisement appears on the back cover--this time for Espolon Tequila, following Absolut's iconic placements on the first two issues. At over 160 pages, it's a publication to dip into slowly, a genuine labor of love with no commercial compromises. In Formation #3 goes into national distribution at Barnes & Noble in early October. It's also available online: <https://informationmagazine.com/product/in-formation-magazine-issue-3/> and through MagCulture in the UK, https://magculture.com/>.
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permalink #1 of 43: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:01
permalink #1 of 43: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:01
Our guests for the discussion are Paulina Borsook and Brian Maggi. Paulina Borsook got a WELL acccount back in 1987 because, at theâ time, it was the only way she knew of to acquire aâ backdoor/graymarket entryway to the Internet. She is best known as aâ writer on technology and culture. She contributed to In Formation #1; she and Brian did their firstâ humor collaboration for #2 with the graphic feature, "Silicon Valleyâ Alpha Males". When In Formation founder/publisher/editor-in chiefâ David Temkin contacted her two years ago about participating inâ issue #3, she replied "yes boss". In the current 25th anniversaryâ issue #3, she mostly contributed humor pieces plus one serious pieceâ about IP/appropriation/copyright/AI/Stepford Wives. She is honoredâ that David awarded her the title "contributing editor" for issue #3. "Cyberselfish", both the original essay and the book, about theâ libertarian culture of tech, are still being read today. She has aâ serious Cassandra complex because of these and other things sheâ wrote in the 1990s, such as a 1999 Salon feature on how the Internetâ ruined San Francisco. She had nothing to do with her Wikipedia page. Brian Maggi is In Formation magazineâs Humor Editor, webmaster,â shipping department, and social chairman. He got his start in techâ over 30 years ago as a subject in a research project at the Nationalâ Center for Supercomputing Applications. He worked at Apple on iconicâ and not-so iconic products including the Newton and the iMac. Hisâ biggest claim is inventing the email spam filter with Postini, thusâ giving the world the greatest excuse for not reading our mothersââ emails.
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permalink #2 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:02
permalink #2 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:02
Welcome, Paulina and Brian! Can you discuss why In Formation wentâ away after two issues so many years ago? And why the team decided toâ bring it back, 2 1/2 decades later?
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permalink #3 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:37
permalink #3 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Thu 4 Sep 25 08:37
my understanding is that issues #1 and #2 (1998; 2000) were createdâ during the dotcom boom, infinitely worth having at. but then came the dotcom crash + 9/11 --- the moment had passed andâ everyone went their separate ways. david temkin, founder/publisher/editor in chief, had just quit hisâ job at google a little more than two years --- and i guess he feltâ the time was right to bring back the publication, given howâ pervasive tech has become (what it is doing to us? and howâ wealthy/powerful tech companies have become. most of the original crew from isssues numbers #1 and #2 have beenâ involved in issue #3 --- with the addition of a bunch of newâ contributors, including the amazing and splendid art + design crew. david has had to go back to work, with a current dayjob at paypal,â so brian and i will attempt to answer questions as best we can. it's worth mentioning that david had been editor-in-chief of hisâ college newspaper and worked in/with many media-oriented startups.â unusual in someone with a CS degree, david gets magazines deeply.â that has aways given the publication a good editorial oversight. heâ also is very witty, which seems to be a default trait for most ofâ the editorial crew. we all had fun working on theâ magazine/coffeetable book--- which was one of david's goals for theâ project.
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permalink #4 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 10:14
permalink #4 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 4 Sep 25 10:14
Was most of the work virtual, or did you have physical meetings?
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permalink #5 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Thu 4 Sep 25 10:40
permalink #5 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Thu 4 Sep 25 10:40
we had two splendid in person meeetings, about six months apart, inâ sf, early on. the rest of the business was generally conducted with zoom, teams,â etc. however i wasnt involved with a lot of the production issues,â so i know david and others would meet to do stuff in the bay area;â david and josh the design head flew to denver where the printer isâ located about six months ago to decide on paper, etc. and of courseâ david flew back to denver for a press check this summer (i thinkâ videos of the press check are online somewhere, probably either onâ david's LI account or the magazine's LI account). as magazines with remote contributors have been a thing for a longâ time, the remote-work aspect is pretty native to the medium. we hadâ weekly 'editorial' meetings on zoom and we had slack. but obv.â writing and editing are done however they get done, always. theâ 'virtual' component with these is as it's been for decades. lots ofâ phonecalls; are those virtual?
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permalink #6 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Fri 5 Sep 25 07:12
permalink #6 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Fri 5 Sep 25 07:12
> why In Formation went away after two issues so many years ago? One of the simpler reasons the magazine stopped after 2 issues, wasâ it was a ton of work and we all had full-time jobs. This time aroundâ it was still a ton of work, but the maturity of collaborative toolsâ made a big difference. We can work asynchronously much easier.
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permalink #7 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Fri 5 Sep 25 07:18
permalink #7 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Fri 5 Sep 25 07:18
We met online weekly and sometimes twice a week when working on theâ magazine. The in-person meetings were the best. I wish I could bottle theâ energy from the room and take a hit from it when I'm in otherâ meetings. It's just a bunch of riffing and non-sequiturs. The onlyâ good reason to have a meeting in my opinion. That and cateredâ lunches.
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permalink #8 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Fri 5 Sep 25 07:29
permalink #8 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Fri 5 Sep 25 07:29
but our lunches werent catered!
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permalink #9 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 5 Sep 25 08:13
permalink #9 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 5 Sep 25 08:13
I sense a difference of opinion about the source of the lunches...â who made the sandwiches? (Or was it chips and caviar?) I'd like to hear more about the collaborative process - I count 37â people on the masthead. Who was responsible for organizing the workâ and deciding who was in which meetings? Did it ever feel likeâ cat-herding, or was it mostly well-organized?
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permalink #10 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Fri 5 Sep 25 09:41
permalink #10 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Fri 5 Sep 25 09:41
(we sought out our own lunches from what was avail near unionâ square, where our wonderful peerspace meeting place was). my understanding is that david sought out the sort of innerâ editorial crew (10-15 folks) --- and then outreach was done toâ individual contributors as they were discovered over time. there was an official editorial zoom, where from anywhere from twoâ ppl (david and me) to 15 ppl would show up. these are folks withâ 'editor' or 'director' in their title on the masthead. david worked with each of the contributors as an editor-in-chiefâ does; there was an art/design cohort which brian was also involvedâ with; and a humor cohort (brian as big cheese). there was a bit of group collab on google docs, but a lot less thanâ you might imagine. for example, i never interacted with ME alexâ lash, but he did a great job of copy/line editing. i would say less cat-herding and more self-organizing --- withâ certain distinct roles as mentioned above.
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permalink #11 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Sat 6 Sep 25 06:56
permalink #11 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Sat 6 Sep 25 06:56
As people came together, what guidance did they get? I.e. what wasâ the shared understanding about what the whole team was creating?
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permalink #12 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sat 6 Sep 25 08:40
permalink #12 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sat 6 Sep 25 08:40
david, whom we all liked and respected and had mostly worked withâ before, asked some folks to be part of the inner crew. we all had aâ intuitive sense of what the mag's sensibility was. so there wasnt guidance per se; we all had a sense of who possibleâ contributors outside that group might be --- and sent them to davidâ to talk to. so 'guidance' came in the form of discussions on the weekly zoom. weâ talked! this has been an all volunteer effort under the enlightened benignâ despot that is david. no one needed guidance; we all went off andâ created the things we talked about doing, occassionally asking forâ feedback.. so in that sense not a team effort: a bunch of individual efforts weâ sometimes checked in about. this worked because there was a sharedâ sensibility: maybe 'know what you are talking about and dont beâ self-serious.' david's invisible hand was the 'guidance', maybe. but he is a veryâ allowing and supportive fellow...
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permalink #13 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Mon 8 Sep 25 11:52
permalink #13 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Mon 8 Sep 25 11:52
I credit the experience level of most of the contributors forâ working from a minimal set of instructions. When it came to vetting ideas and concepts we tried to stay "onâ brand" a term I loathed using⦠a lot. Also, knowing it would takeâ at least a year or more to produce the magazine, we focused onâ topics and stories that would have a longer shelf-life. For humor, we leaned a lot into inside baseball type of jokes. Ourâ rule of thumb was not everyone had to get the joke, but those whoâ do, deserve a bigger pay off. For example, "The Scrum Master" movieâ poster is an unapologetic riff on the corniness of Agileâ Methodologies. If you know, you know. I also know from writing humor, there are people who want to get theâ joke and are compelled to either laugh anyways, or they're compelledâ to do a little research.
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permalink #14 of 43: Ari Davidow (ari) Mon 8 Sep 25 13:39
permalink #14 of 43: Ari Davidow (ari) Mon 8 Sep 25 13:39
Sorry to be coming in so late - I went out of town Thursday and justâ got back last night. Slowly catching up. I guess my first question is "why print"? I enjoyed leafing throughâ In Formation, but it occurred to me that, other than NYRB (which Iâ think I read in print because I find their website so painful), Iâ don't read any print periodicals any more. In fact, once I ploppedâ this one down on the pile of stuff I'm reading, I realized thatâ there _were_ other periodicals in there - I just never read them andâ had forgotten they were there. (Worst of all, I did read one ofâ them, and had left it on the stack so I could send a notice about itâ to an email list ... a year ago.) So, a very self-referential way of asking, why print? Will there beâ an online version?
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permalink #15 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 8 Sep 25 14:24
permalink #15 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 8 Sep 25 14:24
print because a) it's a great aesthetic + sensory experience. b) you read print differently than you do a website and can doâ things in print you really cant do on a website. c) a few of the pieces -are- available on theâ informationmagazine.com website and maybe eventually all of themâ will be. also, people -jumped- at the chance to work on a -magazine-. this is the equivalent of coffeetable book. gorgeous; meant to beâ kept around and have visitors to your place check it. this wouldntâ happen with a website. and yes issues #1 and #2 are collectible andâ hard to find.
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permalink #16 of 43: Ari Davidow (ari) Mon 8 Sep 25 14:46
permalink #16 of 43: Ari Davidow (ari) Mon 8 Sep 25 14:46
Thank you, Paulina. In fairness, there were several pieces (theâ graphic story, for instance) that were much more fun on the printedâ page than they would be on the web - but that only occurred to meâ after typing. Also, I asked this in another discussion on the WELL, but who is theâ audience for this? Where will people encounter it? Is it being soldâ in bookstores? Other types of store?
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permalink #17 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 8 Sep 25 14:56
permalink #17 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 8 Sep 25 14:56
we are lucky enough to have barnes + noble agree to take the 3kâ copies we have left in the warehouse to be distributed nationally.â if we sell enough, there will be a 2nd printing. there -are- stores which carry magazines, such as in sf heathâ ceramics/farleys/dogeared books/smoke signals, etc. audience is anyone who appreciates good design/in partic has a senseâ of humor/cares about what tech is doing to us. so, lots of people.â and people who work in tech (or tech-adjacent) seem very interested.â i think 150 copies were left in the breakroom of google's AI hq inâ london...
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permalink #18 of 43: Administrivia (jonl) Mon 8 Sep 25 17:04
permalink #18 of 43: Administrivia (jonl) Mon 8 Sep 25 17:04
This conversation is publicly accessible, meaning anyone can readâ it, whether or not they are a member of the WELL, which is theâ online community platform hosting this two-week discussion. For non-members, hereâs a short link for easy access:â <https://tinyurl.com/In-Formation>. The full link is:â <https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/556/In-Formation-Magazine-Comp uters-page01.html>. Both links will take you to the first page of the publicâ conversation. If you are not a WELL member, we encourage you toâ visit regularly as the discussion will expand across multiple pages.â Use the pager (dropdown menus at the top and bottom of the page) toâ navigate through the conversation as it evolves. Feel free to share these links on social media or with anyone whoâ might be interested. While non-members cannot post directly, we welcome your comments andâ questions. You can email them to inkwell (at) well.com, and weâllâ post them here on your behalf. If youâd like to participate in more discussions like this,â consider joining the WELL: <https://www.well.com/join/>. The WELL isâ an online community with vibrant, thoughtful conversations on a wideâ range of topicsâan excellent alternative to the fast-paced,â drive-by posting on social media. This conversation will continue for at least two weeks, throughâ September 22nd. Thanks for being part of it!
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permalink #19 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 8 Sep 25 18:17
permalink #19 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 8 Sep 25 18:17
thanx jon for the administrative stuff. cut+ pasted this on FB + LIâ + the magazine's slack. we'll see who might drop on by...
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permalink #20 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Tue 9 Sep 25 05:42
permalink #20 of 43: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Tue 9 Sep 25 05:42
Was issue #3 created with a particular theme or core question inâ mind? What was the force driving a revival after 25 years?
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permalink #21 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 9 Sep 25 07:20
permalink #21 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 9 Sep 25 07:20
i think just a more loosey-gooesy organic 'what do people feel likeâ creating?" and 'let's see what comes in?" driving force was really just david saying "let's revive theâ magazine --- are you in?' sort of 'cry havoc and let slip the dogsâ of war'. obv times have changed since 25 years ago, so different things wereâ on people's minds.
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permalink #22 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Tue 9 Sep 25 18:30
permalink #22 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Tue 9 Sep 25 18:30
Here's another angle on print. It's permanent. It can't be upgraded.â It will serve as an interesting relic in say another 25 years justâ like the previous 2 issues. Magazines are great time capsules ofâ their era. My grandfather was born in 1904 and was a total hoarderâ of magazines. When he died in 1997 I went through a stash of hisâ Popular Mechanics. One article that struck me was about theâ viability of commercial flight. Sure, we have the Wayback Machine as a way to find old websites, butâ it's horribly incomplete. And digital has a way of rewriting historyâ by making the losers disappear from the record.
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permalink #23 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 9 Sep 25 18:45
permalink #23 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 9 Sep 25 18:45
so very true.
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permalink #24 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Tue 9 Sep 25 19:12
permalink #24 of 43: Brian Maggi (bmaggi) Tue 9 Sep 25 19:12
In our kick-off discussion of issue 3 we may have tossed around someâ ideas like "The AI Issue" or some kind of unifying theme. In theâ end, it was like Paulina said, "let's see what comes in". For the humor section we had a Google Doc full of ideas that keptâ growing. We had something of an algorithm to decide what made theâ cut. We weighted ideas on things like⦠Tone: is it in our voice Execution: how is it activated e.g. fake ad, movie poster etc. Originality: have we already made a similar joke in the issue or hasâ someone else. There are concepts in the doc that are laugh out loud funny thatâ didn't make the cut because it wasn't enough to just be funny.â Likewise, there were ideas that made the magazine after a tepidâ response and ended up getting bigger laughs in execution (I know Iâ just mansplained how humor works). When I pitched the probl-o-matic and I don't recall anyone laughing.â It was borne out of a joke I'd been making about the wordâ "problematic" itself. I pictured a Ronco / Popeil device that justâ looked for things to complain about. I also have a niece who sharesâ the same name as a popular spying device and she loves to tattleâ when you say a bad word. There were several iterations of the ad that weren't landing forâ various reasons. It wasn't until I started going down the path ofâ making it look like an air purifier ad from The Sharper Image thatâ it gelled.
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permalink #25 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 9 Sep 25 20:00
permalink #25 of 43: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 9 Sep 25 20:00
yeah the process of what went in and what didnt make the cut wasâ mysterious. i know there were ideas jon callas and i tossed aroundâ (as a joint effort) that sort of just fizzled out. there is a 'just because' aspect to what made it in, imho. i thinkâ we all liked the idea of fake ads for academic programs, for exampleâ --- but execution is everything and alex's 'tech bro studies' atâ brown was just pitch perfect (we all threw some ideas and languageâ at him i think because he expressed an interest in what we mightâ throw over the wall). one thing about successful publications i have noticed over theâ years is that outsiders tend to think there is a big controllingâ thepowersthatbe masonic secret agenda. whereas to me it feels moreâ random: it just happened/it felt right/no one minded/let's see howâ it plays out. right now, the tech bro fashion spread has in a way become ourâ calling card --- yet i dont think brian and i -knew- it would be soâ popular. we had lots of ideas for the art that didnt get used (iâ loved brian's ideas for a sort of butterick pattern concept forâ example) --- but somehow here we are. and ppl seem to respond toâ it. and the meta joke there is the increasingly absurd/abstracted jobâ titles are -real-, including the one for retro bio...
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