Ernesto Aguilar, in RadioWorld, notes that Inside Radio recentlyâ
named KQED as the nationâs number-one news/talk station. Heâ
examines how QED turned around the steep decline in listeners inâ
2023.
>>"Something everyone in radio should ask of their stations is this:â
What does this station sound like to people who werenât raised onâ
it?"<<
Thoughts?
https://www.radioworld.com/columns-and-views/heres-how-san-franciscos-kqed-reb
randed-to-boost-listenership
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permalink #52 of 78: Anni Caporuscio (anni) Tue 21 Oct 25 19:20
permalink #52 of 78: Anni Caporuscio (anni) Tue 21 Oct 25 19:20
Very interesting article, thank you. As I try to address what theâ
value of KKCR is to our community and really talk about it, maybe aâ
rebrand and listening with a new set of ears could do us some good.
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permalink #53 of 78: John Coate (tex) Tue 21 Oct 25 20:35
permalink #53 of 78: John Coate (tex) Tue 21 Oct 25 20:35
The article suggests that a name change is just about all of whatâ
changed. Just dropping "public radio" and adding "news" did allâ
that? And mainly because it's easier to find it using Alexa?
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permalink #54 of 78: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 23 Oct 25 07:13
permalink #54 of 78: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 23 Oct 25 07:13
I am all for federal funding of public broadcasting in the US, yetâ
public media has been a big outlier in getting federal funds.
News funders and philanthropies are now very, very interested inâ
building back local news. I think a lot of us reflexively assumeâ
that means creating online publications that replicate the role ofâ
local newspapers.
Can grant money replace the federal funding stream for public TV andâ
radio? Is this partly a question of capacity to do all the workâ
involved with getting more grants, now that the CPB is defunct?
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permalink #55 of 78: Anni Caporuscio (anni) Tue 28 Oct 25 15:42
permalink #55 of 78: Anni Caporuscio (anni) Tue 28 Oct 25 15:42
Good question, Emily. IÊ»m bumping up our grant writing program atâ
my small community station and even just communicating with a grantâ
writer and giving her the requisite information is a time sucker.â
The requirements from each funder is different, too, so navigatingâ
all that is itÊ»s own chore. I have found that there are largerâ
philanthropies giving to orgs that are regranting those funds toâ
smaller stations and thatÊ»s nice. It makes your eligibility highlyâ
specific, though.
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permalink #56 of 78: Matthew Hawn (jukevox) Tue 28 Oct 25 16:14
permalink #56 of 78: Matthew Hawn (jukevox) Tue 28 Oct 25 16:14
I wonder if this news is good for folks in this conversation
https://current.org/2025/10/national-federation-of-community-broadcasters-land
s-1-25m-macarthur-grant/
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permalink #57 of 78: John Coate (tex) Tue 28 Oct 25 19:41
permalink #57 of 78: John Coate (tex) Tue 28 Oct 25 19:41
That is great for the NFCB. I wonder how they will spend it..
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permalink #58 of 78: Benjamin Shapiro (bshapiro) Wed 29 Oct 25 15:37
permalink #58 of 78: Benjamin Shapiro (bshapiro) Wed 29 Oct 25 15:37
Well deserved and well timed. A small amount though, relatively.
I feel that one of the challenges of this conversation is thatâ
"public radio", even as funded by CPB, covers such a broad range ofâ
institutions, activities, infrastructure all to keep this largerâ
enterprise of non-commercial audio broadcasting (and podcasting?) upâ
and running, and potentially healthy and growing in its ability toâ
serve its mission.
Just as a minor example of one specific area of important supportâ
for the system, when I started out in the 1980s, there were a numberâ
of opportunities designed to get skills to a new generation--I wentâ
to all-expense-paid workshops in music recording offered by NPR inâ
Colorado, to a week-long production workshop at Western Public Radioâ
in SF with 7 others one of whom was Andrea DeLeon, now longtime NPRâ
Northeast bureau chief. There was the Satellite Program Developmentâ
Fund, which was the beginning of Sean Barlow's Afropop, and Iraâ
Glass got one too if I recall as his first larger project.
I guess my point is, what we really need is a comprehensive view ofâ
the whole system--which is something public radio has drifted awayâ
from. I'd like to say the end of CPB funding might help move us backâ
in that direction, but without substantial resources to do things, Iâ
frankly don't see how. (If I'm wrong, that would be great.)
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permalink #59 of 78: John Coate (tex) Wed 29 Oct 25 16:39
permalink #59 of 78: John Coate (tex) Wed 29 Oct 25 16:39
I don't see how either in this every-station-for-itself climate. â
And NPR doesn't do much of that kind of skill building amongâ
affiliates the way they used to. NPR does have some funds set asideâ
to help poorer station make their payments to NPR.
One of the great things about the NFCB annual conventions are howâ
that breadth of styles and focuses come together to help each otherâ
out.
>broadcasting (and podcasting?)
I used to think of podcasting as sort of the minor leagues; aâ
talent/content pipeline to the big broadcast platforms.
Now I think of it as pickleball; it's not developing tennis players,â
it's displacing tennis. The migration from RF to digital isâ
proceeding at all deliberate speed, and neither commercial norâ
"public" broadcasting seems to see it coming.
Neither broadcast nor tennis are going away, but their place in theâ
food chain for popular attention is degrading.
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permalink #61 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Thu 30 Oct 25 08:56
permalink #61 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Thu 30 Oct 25 08:56
<anni> and I are planning another Grateful Dead marathon for January, and
we're hoping to share it wiht other community stations on the mainland, with
regular cutaways for local pitching.
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permalink #62 of 78: Benjamin Shapiro (bshapiro) Fri 31 Oct 25 11:40
permalink #62 of 78: Benjamin Shapiro (bshapiro) Fri 31 Oct 25 11:40
First I would say..."podcasting" is a completely inadequite name.â
Its like we decide to call it "text" or "writing" to apply toâ
newspapers, novels, poetry, live texting... Each of these their ownâ
uses, conditions of use, production processes, social and culturalâ
values, formal qualities and history, etc. It would be helpful if weâ
could have an intellectual ecosystem where they wouldn't beâ
mindlessly lumped into one pile.
Take daily live news programs, networked nationally. Expensive andâ
labor intensive, requiring lots of staff and travel and facilities.â
Heard by millions (still). The impact of this is diminishing asâ
attentions diverge, and yet...millions. It has a important place inâ
the the future world of media consumption and a functionalâ
democracy. This is a wildly different thing than localâ
station/podcast programming, yet both are important and I wouldn'tâ
say one more than the other. We don't ditch poetry because we haveâ
magazines.
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permalink #63 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Fri 31 Oct 25 11:42
permalink #63 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Fri 31 Oct 25 11:42
I am sure I am not the only broadcaster who is constantly hearing people
talking about my "podcast."
I invite people to appear on my weekly call-in show (on satellite radio),
and even then they ask "when do you record your podcast?"
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permalink #64 of 78: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 1 Nov 25 08:28
permalink #64 of 78: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 1 Nov 25 08:28
Public radio has podcasts as well, but podcasts have specificâ
characteristics that differ from radio or other similar forms ofâ
(audio) content delivery. Podcasts are pre-recorded and available onâ
demand. Listeners can subscribe and automatically receive newâ
episodes, pushed to their devices. True podcasts are delivered viaâ
RSS feeds and podcast apps (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, etc.) They'reâ
delivered online, not via broadcast. Anybody can make a podcast, onâ
any subject - overhead is minimal.
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permalink #65 of 78: Stan Weddington (plantone) Sat 1 Nov 25 08:45
permalink #65 of 78: Stan Weddington (plantone) Sat 1 Nov 25 08:45
>>They're delivered online, not via broadcast.<<
the BBC World Service sometimes broadcast (the audio content) ofâ
productions they call podcast (which includes video as well asâ
audio) before making it available via online.
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permalink #66 of 78: Andrew Lewin (draml) Sat 1 Nov 25 08:50
permalink #66 of 78: Andrew Lewin (draml) Sat 1 Nov 25 08:50
The BBC is increasingly blurring the line between shows recorded forâ
broadcast and those for podcast.
And these days for some of the biggest shows they will record theâ
contributors in a studio in front of cameras and do a 'visualised'â
podcast version of it to show on TV as well. They are doing theirâ
absolute best to make the licence fee money stretch as far as itâ
will possibly go.
"Megaphone" Mark Andrews was cancelled from NPR. Launching aâ
podcast...
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2025/11/02
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permalink #68 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Sun 2 Nov 25 12:19
permalink #68 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Sun 2 Nov 25 12:19
Mark Slackmeyer, right?
Could be. I thought his dad (corporate raider profile) was namedâ
Andrews, but that rings a bell.
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permalink #70 of 78: John Coate (tex) Tue 4 Nov 25 17:23
permalink #70 of 78: John Coate (tex) Tue 4 Nov 25 17:23
My brother who works outside LA and drives round that areaâ
extensively for his work, listens almost exclusively to podcastsâ
that he downloads onto his phone and then bluetooths over to hisâ
car. He likes comedians, from whom there is an abundant supply.
I drive around a lot too, but since I am usually alone in the car, Iâ
can listen to music I like without interruption or requests to turnâ
down the volume. So I alternate between that and listening to theâ
local radio.
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permalink #71 of 78: Jay Allison (jwa) Wed 12 Nov 25 10:06
permalink #71 of 78: Jay Allison (jwa) Wed 12 Nov 25 10:06
I want to apologize to all of you. I had been waiting, lazily, forâ
an email notifying me that this had started and let it fall off myâ
radar. Then we had a death in the family and everything fell off myâ
radar.
I will find time to go back and read and if I can offer anything, Iâ
will, but you've all probably gone home to have dinner by now. â
Sorry...
I still love public radio and am still fighting for it, even when itâ
fights back: https://www.capelocalradio.com/updates
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permalink #72 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Nov 25 10:27
permalink #72 of 78: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Nov 25 10:27
Never too late to hear from you, Jay. Our condolences on your family's loss.
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permalink #73 of 78: Ari Davidow (ari) Wed 12 Nov 25 11:53
permalink #73 of 78: Ari Davidow (ari) Wed 12 Nov 25 11:53
Yes, condolences, and feel encouraged to add your thoughts onceâ
you've read through it all.
We haven't formally closed this discussion, and it may well proveâ
evergreen; your observations are ardently anticipated. And yourâ
loved one's memory for a blessing.
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permalink #75 of 78: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Wed 12 Nov 25 14:34
permalink #75 of 78: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Wed 12 Nov 25 14:34
Jay, condolences from me, too. Please feel free to sustain theâ
conversation. This one will continue a while.
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