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permalink #1276 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 22 Nov 00 15:12
permalink #1276 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 22 Nov 00 15:12
Neil - hurry up and write your Charles Fort story already! As for the gift for Mr. Ford... I get the pun, but steak & kidney pie = <insert Jill Thompsons drawing of Delirium when she drank turkish coffee> for me. ew. Still, glad he's getting new internals. :) re: wrestling... don't know how to respond to that... Randi - Neato! Thank you! And thanks for the well wishes getting home. Have so far only hit two major cities and have managed to hit them both during rush hour... *sigh -squeaks, borrowing a kinko's computer in El Paso because she's that big a net junkie. Should be home tomorrow night tho'. Yay! My own bed!
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permalink #1277 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Wed 22 Nov 00 17:39
permalink #1277 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Wed 22 Nov 00 17:39
A bit late, cos work is eating me up whole: W:CL, my 2 cents: for owners of the CDs (and I am one), I think the sticking point would not be the sequence of the release (so long as there's a schedule and we know stuff is coming along) but getting a CD for 13 minutes of new stuff (a point which people have already mentioned). Having said that, I think pricing also matters... if they're released as single CDs, it might not pinch as much for people who want the 13 minutes. I remember thinking that W:CL was a bit pricey, but it was 2 CDs, so, theoretically, if they're released each on their own, then they'll be priced lower than W:CL was... (Um, make sense? ^_^;) Other things: *crosses fingers for Mike's kidney* randi - Mayhem 2000 is just too wonderful. ^_- I love The Onion. And a Happy Thanksgiving, everybody! -- Mimi, the birthday Sag girl ^_-
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permalink #1278 of 1905: Elise Matthesen (lioness) Wed 22 Nov 00 19:18
permalink #1278 of 1905: Elise Matthesen (lioness) Wed 22 Nov 00 19:18
Hey, Neil -- Just a quick note here, since things are still a bit hectic. Mike says thank you for the steak and kidney pie. "I ate half of it," he said, and then explained his tone of triumph by saying "It was *huge*." Apparently he was the envy of the other patients, as there were comments of "That smells better than the regular dinner." The staff was definitely amused, too. Oh. He says to tell you that he has three kidneys in 'im now, not counting however many were in the pie. (They transplant the new one in, but leave the old ones there.) And the new one is definitely working. And Mike walked to the end of the hallway and back yesterday. Anyhow, the pie (and the flowers, too!) made a big hit; thank you so much. Shira and Sarah: I'll send you email about another try at tea, OK? Elise, tired and happy (Oh! P.S. to Neil: Mike's song "American Guy" -- minus the directions verse, of course -- and my silly Gilbert & Sullivan Guy Fawkes songs will be published in Geri Sullivan's zine IDEA later this month....) (and another P.S., to Gorey: my copy of Mike's book HMFJT PLANET is hiding, but Neil's song is the one sung by the proprietor of the movie palace, and is something lovely about ... Monochrome, perhaps? And I *really* like Ilen the Magian's curtain call in the book; Neil, does it seem fitting? [Lioness is trying not to write spoilers, here.])
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permalink #1279 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 22 Nov 00 20:28
permalink #1279 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 22 Nov 00 20:28
Steak and kidney pie! Excellent. Also excellent about the walking and the urine production.
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permalink #1280 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 22 Nov 00 21:29
permalink #1280 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 22 Nov 00 21:29
Streak -- I really liked Minor Miracles, particularly the first couple of stories. Randi (1258) -- I know what you mean. & Thanks for the Onion pointer... Len - 1271 -- I hope someone will bring Dragon Waiting back into print. Meanwhile Bookfinder.com lists dozens of cheap copies (including Half.com) so you shouldn't have a hard time getting one. There aren't any Dragons in The Dragon Waiting, by the way. Martha -- how odd. I clicked on it and it worked. (THey seem to have fixed the Bestselling order thing now.) Laurel -- the Mike Ford Star Trek books are indeed wonderful things. Gorey -- Monochrome was my song in HOW MUCH...? Michelle -- well, I was very surprised to learn about the wrestling as well. Out of interest, where are you driving from and to? Mimi -- point taken. What if I were to stick the 13 minute track on a website -- either at Gaiman.net when I get it running, or at AmericanGods.com if it's from there? So you'd be able to download or listen to it. I don't want to make people who already have WARNING go out and buy a new (single) CD just for that. I just want to put as much as I can on each CD... And yes, we'd price them as singles, rather than as a double CD. Elise -- hurrah. That's wonderful. And yes, absolutely.
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permalink #1281 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Wed 22 Nov 00 22:27
permalink #1281 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Wed 22 Nov 00 22:27
I'll throw this question out to all, since I my knowledge of Thanksgiving is limited to TV soaps, what exactly do you do? I know it involves something with a turkey and recreating events..um...doesn't it?
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permalink #1282 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 22 Nov 00 22:42
permalink #1282 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 22 Nov 00 22:42
Pretty much the turkey. With as many family members as can stand to be in a room. The turkey must have stuffing and there must be cranberry sauce. Also, there's a lot of football on tv. The only event recreated by anyone is last year's Thanksgiving, with the turkey, the relatives, and the football on tv. And the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade is on television in the morning, floats and giant inflated cartoon characters going down the streets of New York for some reason.
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permalink #1283 of 1905: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Thu 23 Nov 00 02:25
permalink #1283 of 1905: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Thu 23 Nov 00 02:25
Thanks to everyone for your recommendations on books. Now I just have to wait for a month or two and it will be Christmas. I tend to celebrate holidays abroad based on when the presents get here. :) Neil -- thanks for the pointer to SciFi.com's readings archive! There was a terrible rainstorm here the day I got the message, and I think this might have affected my Internet connection, but I listened to you all the way through "Chivalry" despite your severe electronic stutter. I liked having your voice in this cold, empty house with the rain ranting outside. I'll still be keeping my eyes open for the CDs, though. I'm off to Kyoto in a week, so if anyone wants copies of fox shrine pictures send me an e-mail and I'll send you one when I get the film back.
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permalink #1284 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Thu 23 Nov 00 15:54
permalink #1284 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Thu 23 Nov 00 15:54
(1281) Hide or run away and pray the relatives don't find me. Seriously, I love them dearly, just not all at once... Usually I leave town. (2 years ago was Hawaii, last year was Tennessee - thanks Neil! - and, well, I'm still working on today... necessary nap?) Mimi - forgot to ask, I met an Eric in New Orleans who used to date a Mimi Ko who liked Neil stuff. Any chance it was you? (said something about you going to a particular school, but all I can remember is that I think it starts with a "W") Neil - Good idea to release single cds. And if you could put up the 13 minutes online somewhere, that would be even better! Incidentally, I was driving from New Orleans (left on Tuesday) to Oakland (arrived an hour ago!) Beat my record of miles per day logged (Wednesday = 1125 miles). It's amazing how much homesickness can inspire one to stay awake and drive dammit! Congrats to Mike for a working kidney... tho' I still don't know how he could stomach the pie... :-P -squeaks, who needs to go write Mike now, since it's the anniv of the day we first met (Randi, you'll remember Bob Weir's friends from last year?)
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permalink #1285 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Thu 23 Nov 00 18:16
permalink #1285 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Thu 23 Nov 00 18:16
Fair enough. Thanks Martha :P
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permalink #1286 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 23 Nov 00 19:21
permalink #1286 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 23 Nov 00 19:21
Amanda -- I think there are secret thanksgiving rituals they perform. It can't be *just* eating turkey and men gathering around the TV drinking beer saying things like "Hell, call that a play?" while the women sit around in the kitchen drinking cheap white wine saying things like, "Well, all I'm saying is I may be eighty years old but I know the difference between a hanging Chad and a Dimpled chad, and I think that Mister Al Gore is just a sore loser". But I've not seen anything more than that yet. Emily -- sorry about the electronic stutter. I think that there's a couple of other readings up at the scifi web site. Michelle -- that's quite a drive.
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permalink #1287 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Thu 23 Nov 00 23:09
permalink #1287 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Thu 23 Nov 00 23:09
Well, if you take my family's turkey-day tradition into consideration, you'll have to add the obligatory "make fun of Michelle's hair" remarks, followed by my grandmother threatening everyone if they don't show up for X-mas morning at her house (we've tried to explain to her that she's Jewish, but it's a rather pointless argument). Dessert was nummy tho'. It had chocolate chips in it. Usually after dessert, we get into book discussions. I think I msy hsve suckered a favourite aunt into the 'cult o' Neil'. Neil - The drive goes by much more quickly with lots of Red Bull, but the cost is what little sanity I have left (and the $2 I had to shell out for each can). Still beats flying, IMHO... Sorry so rambly. -squeaks (all I said was that next it would be blue again... i thought Grandma rather *liked* the blue hair)
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permalink #1288 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Fri 24 Nov 00 03:21
permalink #1288 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Fri 24 Nov 00 03:21
*quick reply* Neil - I think it's a good idea to put the extra material online. Then people who have WARNING can choose to either listen to it online or pay for the whole CD. But I think it's the 'having a choice' that will stave off the grumbling. (Personally? I think I'll probably get the CD anyway. :P I prefer CDs cos of portability and sound quality.) squeaks - Holy Cow. I *am* her. Or she's me. Gah. *takes a moment to get over the shock* Btw, you got Eric's contact info? His old email account has stopped working and mine has changed too. *will talk about this over email or something* Emily - Lucky! You're going to Kyoto! ^_- I'm heading to Tokyo myself next weekend... gotta catch up with a couple friends, and also catch a concert with them!! (L'Arc~en~Ciel... at Tokyo Dome! Will bring binoculars. ^_-) -- Mimi, running off into Friday Night
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permalink #1289 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 24 Nov 00 18:54
permalink #1289 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 24 Nov 00 18:54
The turkey is misunderstood. Eating the flavorless, fibrous, dried-out, trance-inducing flesh of the fowl is a ritual act of atonement for how rotten the Pilgrims treated those early Friendly Indians.
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permalink #1290 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 24 Nov 00 19:25
permalink #1290 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 24 Nov 00 19:25
Mimi - "doormat-kun" <heehee!> check your inbox. -squeaks, sauntering off into Friday night (no energy to run)
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permalink #1291 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 25 Nov 00 12:58
permalink #1291 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 25 Nov 00 12:58
Michelle -- there are a lot of other good drinks in the same vein as Red Bull. Some taste better. Aqua Libra was always my favorite. Mimi -- right. There, well yours was the deciding vote. maddy (my youngest daughter) has developed an enormous fondness for Scooby Doo. Which means I keep watching bits of Scooby Doo, in sundry incarnations, and keep thinking of a story about the Scooby gang, much later. What an odd thing to think about.
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permalink #1292 of 1905: Randi (randi-ilene) Sat 25 Nov 00 21:46
permalink #1292 of 1905: Randi (randi-ilene) Sat 25 Nov 00 21:46
Len - tee hee. Apparently the secret to making sure the turkey isn't terribly dried out is to use a kosher one. We tried that this year, but unfortunately the fat from the turkey got all over the oven bag and caused the whole oven to catch on fire. Had to cut off the power to the house. Amanda - Don't listen to them. Martha is right. Thanksgiving is nothing more or less than the getting together of extended family for the length of a (usually) turkey dinner. Which doesn't mean people don't get themselves completely nuts trying to impress the relatives trying to make the perfect pumpkin pie or creamed onions that could come out of a Prarie Home Companion routine - they do, but that's their own weirdness. I've sat outside through a (very very cold) Macy*s Thanksgiving Day Parade once. It was much more fun to watch them blow up the balloons by Central Park the day before. Michelle-who-is-home-in-one-piece(yay!): Yep, I remember :) My god, there really are only 21 real people in there world, aren't there? Neil - Out of curiousity, how much later are we talking? And what is gaiman.net going to consist of, once it's done? You haven't had to buy all the new domain names that were just approved to keep the speculators out, have you? -randi who frequently thinks odd things about animated series
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permalink #1293 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 25 Nov 00 22:06
permalink #1293 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 25 Nov 00 22:06
Lucy Anne - it's not that there are only 21 real people... it's just that the world is shrinking is all. I'll just go blame it on tyg for nearly being a nexus. Neil - Have never (to the best of my recollection) even *seen* Aqua Libra... But then most of the people I spoke to in Texas and Lousisiana had never heard of Red Bull (or Hansens, or Blue Ox, or...) either. If I have the choice, it's all about Black Cherry flavoured Blue Ox - but I've only ever seen it in the bay area. As for Scooby Doo; loved it when I was younger. Stopped loving it once I started hanging out with pot-heads in high school (tho' being cast as Velma that Halloween didn't help). Yipes! I'm running late for work! (yes, I still say 'yipes' because of that show - but I don't say 'jinky') -squeaks (who is rambling because she drank too much Red Bull after dinner. mmmmmm... sushi!)
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permalink #1294 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 26 Nov 00 08:57
permalink #1294 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 26 Nov 00 08:57
Michelle -- a hasty websearch revealed that you can get Aqua Libra and Purdeys in the US via mail order. It also revealed that both Aqua Libra and Purdeys are obscenely overpriced if you order them online from any of the places I found (they were charging roughly twice what the occasional US grocery type place who has them charges). Randi -- I'm unconvinced about kosher vs non kosher turkey. The last time I enjoyed Turkey was back in the UK, and I'd drive down to the nearest farm on Christmas Eve and pick up a turkey they'd killed and plucked etc that morning from the farmer, and they were good. The place only raised a couple of dozen turkeys a year, free range. And they tasted of something, and weren't dry or anything. And on the more relevant question... Trever has neilgaiman.com and neil-gaiman.com, both of which, he says, are mine for the asking. I've bought the related orgs and nets for both of them, and gaiman.org and gaiman.net. Gaiman.com is owned by someone else. I like the idea of making Gaiman.net the home base, with the others taking you to it. We'll see. I'm talking to some people whose websites I like about doing mine, with the plan being to make it self-supporting. (I expect you'll be able to order stuff from it, with DreamHaven actually being the place you're getting it from.) Although I also like the idea of being able to clean out some of the fire hazard stuff in the basement. Now I've actually, rather grudgingly, agreed that there probably should be an official website, with stuff on it, I've also agreed to do some cool stuff for the new novel.com, which Harper Collins are going to be putting together. Probably something kind of like this, only more of a journal. We'll see.
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permalink #1295 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 26 Nov 00 11:45
permalink #1295 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 26 Nov 00 11:45
Oops above. Make that Trevor. And today is going to the viewing of the body of my wife's late uncle, something which still strikes me as faintly ghoulish. (It's the jewish upbringing, I suspect. You don't see bodies. You go and say hello to the relatives sitting shiva, and you eat honey cake, and nobody shaves.) But it's the right thing to do, so I do it. And something much more trivial, but even more distasteful: pick the author photo from the contact sheets from last week's photo session. The photographer's ideal photo seems to be of me looming out of the smoke in a sinister fashion like a latter day Jack the Ripper. My family like all the ones in which I look goofy. ("Well, you look like you in them.") I need to sit and puzzle over them trying to figure out a) what kind of photo it ought to be and b) which of those photos says that best.
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permalink #1296 of 1905: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sun 26 Nov 00 15:28
permalink #1296 of 1905: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sun 26 Nov 00 15:28
Amanda - Thanksgiving is a way for us to test first our math skills and then our ingenuity. A secret, complex mathematical formula is handed down through each generation involving how many chairs will need to be borrowed, how to maximise silverware use with the least amount of mis-matched sets, and how many 18 pound turkeys to buy. After much thought and effort, the formula fails to work every single time. There is always more turkey left over afterwards than was bought in the first place. This is either a miracle like the loaves and the fishes, or perhaps the relatives who hosted thanksgiving in past years simply brought all of their leftovers to get rid of. In any case, it is in the days following thanksgiving where we must come up with as many new and interesting recipes as possible. (sort of like the zuchinni test) And that there is my two cents. Jen. (eating some really great turkey noodle soup and making her first post as a member)
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permalink #1297 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:31
permalink #1297 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:31
The only place I know to get Purdeys in NYC is a deli on 59th st & 1st ave. The problem is that just up the block is bar that serves fantastic martinis. Purdeys... martini... the booze always wins. I share the feeling that viewing the body is kind of ghoulish-- i prefer honeycake. The first time I went to a wake I forced myself to look as a kind of a trial-of-manhood thing. Now I think it's just icky. David Rosengarten of the TV Food Network suggests cutting the white meat off the turkey when it's done, then finish cooking the dark meat. I want to host a t'giving at my place, if only to try this. (I know I could make turkey anytime, but t'giving gives it extra oomph.) I love the idea of catching up with the Scoobies later in their lives. Except for Scrappy Doo, that is. Neil-- I saw Miyazaki's film "Laputa" today. Great stuff, but I kept wishing for your words to magically appear. Any plans in the future to work with him again?
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permalink #1298 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:33
permalink #1298 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:33
We Presbyterians didn't look at bodies, either. If there was a casket, it was closed. Thankfully. When I went to the wake of a Catholic friend's father (I'd never met the man alive), it seemed to me you're not seeing the body so much anyway as a lot of wax and cosmetics. Still, whatever makes people feel better.
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permalink #1299 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:49
permalink #1299 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:49
Martha - Most funeral homes give you the option here, whatever the religion. Personally I have less trouble looking at the body than watching the coffin sliding back behind the curtain or being covered in dirt. Thanksgiving - Hmmm. Sort of explains it, but to be honest it sounds like a dress rehearsal for Christmas sans presents. Len - Wow. You mean turkey is *not* meant to taste like that? Scooby Doo Wasnt the same after they introduced Scrappy. He was just too annoying. Never could look at Scooby and Shaggy the same way once I grew up and realised that Scooby snacks were actually hash cookies, and the only reason they saw ghosts everywhere was because they were having a paranoid trip. Dont even get me started on the Smurfs :P 'Energy' drinks - Red Eye Platinum has rather a kick. Try mixing with alcohol. Seems the Guarana extends the effect of the alcohol (drunk longer) and the alcohol does the same to the Guarana (awake longer). Great dance mix. Dont suggest more than one though. I know an ex-truckie that had three with scotch and couldnt sleep for two days. He was not a small man. With Christmas just around the corner what does everyone have planned? How is it normally celebrated in your part of the world?
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permalink #1300 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:51
permalink #1300 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 26 Nov 00 19:51
Oh, and I meant to say 'Hi Jenny' nice to have you post with us :P
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