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permalink #326 of 2008: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sun 1 Jul 01 01:13
permalink #326 of 2008: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sun 1 Jul 01 01:13
Martha -- It will start cooling down in Vegas around September (the evenings are quite lovely in Sept & Oct). Hope you have a good visit here, just remember lots of water and air conditioned buildings! Suzanne
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permalink #327 of 2008: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sun 1 Jul 01 01:21
permalink #327 of 2008: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sun 1 Jul 01 01:21
Good to see Neil arrived safely at home. One's own bed does seem to have magical recuperative properties. Then again there's also something to be said of being with your loved ones. 116's topic made me quite smile big time... congrats again for becoming a NYT best selling author! Hope you get a few days to rest before the whirlwind starts again, you deserve it. Suzanne
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permalink #328 of 2008: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Sun 1 Jul 01 02:51
permalink #328 of 2008: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Sun 1 Jul 01 02:51
The recently updated New York Times best-seller list: http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/07/08/bsp/besthardfiction.html ::pumps fist enthusiastically in the air:: Jade Walker
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permalink #329 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 1 Jul 01 09:18
permalink #329 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 1 Jul 01 09:18
Look at the company he's in: Sue Grafton, Danielle Steele, John Grisham (wonder if he knows he's mentioned in the book?), Jackie Collins, Mary Higgins Clark, Anne Tyler, James Lee Burke, and, get this: American Gods is five places higher than Steven King's new book!
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permalink #330 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Sun 1 Jul 01 12:15
permalink #330 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Sun 1 Jul 01 12:15
JaNell... I've not read any de Lint in far too long. I should fix that. :-) I stopped everything I was reading to devour American Gods, and have lent the book out to two friends since the signing (both of whom called me up and demanded I explain the comments Neil signed to me when they hit that page - hehe!) ... I think I'm going to go back to reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, now, unless my s/o gets this book on violence and evolution back, in which case I'll read that. What's your favourite de Lint book? :-) Jade - thank you for posting the link. I've been hitting the NYT books page almost daily, out of some weird hope they would update the page sooner rather than later. Neil - congratulations. From the kitchen, behind the wafts of homemade hash browns and bacon smoke, comes a shout of "... and such a quality book!" Now, off to find food for a picnic... -Kelly
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permalink #331 of 2008: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sun 1 Jul 01 13:07
permalink #331 of 2008: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sun 1 Jul 01 13:07
Jade... thanks for posting that the link finally changed. The subchart rankings of the NYT has Neil at #5 from independent booksellers and #8 from the chain booksellers. And as Linda pointed out, he's among some of the book industries' heavy hitters! Way to go Neil! Suzanne (who is now off to pack more for the move)
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permalink #332 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 1 Jul 01 14:59
permalink #332 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 1 Jul 01 14:59
Just a word or two about why we have two topics. This one is primarily for The Mob to visit and chat in a Neil-related sort of way. The other one is for talking about American Gods. I mention this because I didn't want folks to think that only Neil and Martha can talk in that topic. By all means, take your comments and questions about AG to topic 116 to participate in the interview.
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permalink #333 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Sun 1 Jul 01 17:00
permalink #333 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Sun 1 Jul 01 17:00
Kelly- my favorite de Lint? Hmm, let's see... Memory & Dream, or Svaha. Charles and MaryAnn are great con guests, too; they had a small concert up in their room Saturday night, and it was amazing. Charles learned "Copperhead Road" just for ConCat, 'cause it's about a road moonshiners used to transport the stuff into Knoxville. He was thrilled that I drove him over part of it on the way from the airport- I actually live only a few blocks from the route...
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permalink #334 of 2008: Blythe Summers (blythe-summers) Sun 1 Jul 01 21:08
permalink #334 of 2008: Blythe Summers (blythe-summers) Sun 1 Jul 01 21:08
Rebecca-"meltingly kind" is a wonderful way to describe Neil! Do you write? Kathy-Since you like the "foreign customs" part of Herodotus, that made me wonder if you've read "The Travels of Sir John Mandeville"...its this odd little book from the Middle Ages about this guy's supposed travels around the *world*. Lots of funny little stories and notions. Everyone should take a look at it, it's interesting to see what people in Europe used to think about the rest of the world. I noticed there's some de Lint fans on here...I've had my eye on his books for awhile now, but haven't read any. What's a good one to start with? --Blythe, off to look into topic #116
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permalink #335 of 2008: JaNell, seeking clarity (janell) Sun 1 Jul 01 21:44
permalink #335 of 2008: JaNell, seeking clarity (janell) Sun 1 Jul 01 21:44
"Dreams Underfoot", a collection of stories in and around the fictional (I think) town of Newford is a good place to start. De Lint is absolutely the best, in my opinion, at melding myth with urban reality. His writing is very understanding of how people are, very rich and layered, but with clarity. His home page is http://www.cyberus.ca/~cdl/ .
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permalink #336 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Sun 1 Jul 01 21:59
permalink #336 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Sun 1 Jul 01 21:59
Re: Dan's question on 116 Dan- Well, first Neil will see what all of us have to add, and the postings on the AG Annotations Board, and various others, and the reviews; then, after five more years of research and rewrites, the Annotated American Gods will be out at a whopping 1,536 page monolithic size... 12 pages of credits... in seven volumes... and with at least three colleges offering minor degrees around it... a foundation begun... New cults will form, desperately seeking a place in the third version, to be written by his heirs after he mysteriously disappears, and Hollywood, which once spurned him, will begin to give the foundation all their money and divorce their spouses if the spouses don't want their children raised in the cul... Say, I just wandered back into reality through the back door... Weird.
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permalink #337 of 2008: Lisan (lisas-naptime) Mon 2 Jul 01 06:01
permalink #337 of 2008: Lisan (lisas-naptime) Mon 2 Jul 01 06:01
Wow, it worked! Finally scraped enough pennies together to sign on here. I stumbled onto the Well back in topic 73, but have been lurking in the shadows until now. I just wanted to say Hi to everyone, I prolly won't be a prolific poster, but I do look forward to joining the conversations. And rather than some hamhanded introduction about myself, I thought I would post my "Meeting Neil" story since it seems the season... The first and only time I have had the pleasure of meeting Neil was at the LA Last Angel tour in October. Now, I was so excited about the tour that I was sure it was a conspiracy that the tickets would go on sale while I was vacationing in Dublin and wouldn't have internet access reliably. Rather than dealing with time zone changes and international calls, I got my cousin to buy the tickets for us. And come the day of the sale, I called my cousin about 5 times in an 8hr period to try and make sure he got us tickets. I couldn't get thru to him at all and it about drove me crazy. I was sure it would sell out in minutes just to spite me. In any case, we got tickets successfully and come one fine October morning, I woke up at 6am, after having worked until midnight and picked my cousin up and hit I 10 to LA. We arrived with enough time to find our hotel and have some horrid pizza before heading out the door and finding our way to the reception. (Which of course had been moved, but we didn't know that, thankfully being the geek that I am, I had printed out Mapquest directions to both sites.) When we finally got to the right place, Neil hadn't made an appearance yet so we milled about and picked up a few choice items from the sale table. Then Chris Oarr came out and announced that Neil was having problems with his voice and would still be greeting us, but wouldn't talk much as he was saving his voice for the reading. Enter Neil. <Lisa goes into full fangirl mode and tries desperately to blend into woodwork.> Chris Oarr was doing a wonderful job of sheparding him around the room and I was very happy just sitting and watching him say hello and generally make people smile everywhere he went (not nearly as stalker-ish as it sounds.) My cousin and I both felt completely happy just being there and figured that if we sat over in a corner and didn't meet Neil it would be fine with both of us... the poor man looked so tired and if there was any chance that not saying Hi to us would help him read a bit longer... plus that way we wouldn't have to worry about forgetting our names. But then, just as we thought we were in the clear (and I have absolutely no idea why we were so frightened) Chris Oarr started guiding Neil towards us and commented on us waiting patiently in the corner. There was another person sitting near us on the floor, and as he rose and started speaking to Neil I started telling myself that a large mexican girl fainting on him would not necessarily be the best first impression to make on Neil. He said hello to my cousin and then to me and urged us to grab a bite to eat from the buffet table, at which point instead of asking for a photo with him or saying something moderately relavent, I babbled something about driving from Arizona and having bad pizza in the hotel room. I'm sure he said something else at that point, but I couldn't tell you what it was. I was starstruck, and good. So Neil walked away, I didn't get my picture, but I loved, absolutely loved the reading (we were only about 3 rows back from the stage) and have high hopes of someday meeting Neil and not sounding like a blathering idiot. :) Ok, sorry for the length, but I wanted to share that story with people who would understand. <g> Now I am off to explore the rest of the topics here and see just how much trouble I am going to get into now that I have full access... muahahahahaha ;)
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permalink #338 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 2 Jul 01 06:49
permalink #338 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 2 Jul 01 06:49
A great, fun, relaxing weekend, during which I finally saw "Say Anything..." for the first time, and was happy I hadn't seen it sooner, because it's just that special kind of movie. Also saw AI, which I thoroughly enjoyed but which could have ended twenty minutes before it actually did with good result. Not to say I didn't *like* the ending, but... On obscure Jim Henson movies- picked up The Muppet Movie DVD and grinned like a six-year-old through Jim Frawley's camera test, which isn't obscure, but which reminded how badly I want to see Timepieces. And, of course, Living with Dinosaurs, now, which I'll have to go on a quest and find. On DeLint- my favorite is Trader, which I loved. I picked up his other stuff, but then discovered that, well (don't be offended), he seemed like fantasy's version of John Grisham. I read a couple of other books (Greenmantle, Jack of Kinrowan, etc.), and it always seemed like I was reading the same story. Neil- congratulations again, and welcome back... It's good to have you back. We missed you, when we weren't meeting you in person again. And, really, thanks again for making my month at the Magnetic Fields concert. Rebecca- Welcome to you. Pleasure to have you. Stay a while. -Will, who really must do some work.
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permalink #339 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 2 Jul 01 06:52
permalink #339 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 2 Jul 01 06:52
Oh, and welcome to you, to Lisa. Sorry about that. Would you guys like a hard cider, now you're here (and you too, Neil, now you're back)?
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permalink #340 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 2 Jul 01 08:40
permalink #340 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 2 Jul 01 08:40
E-mail from Sarah: Arrived home from the DreamHaven Books signing not long ago. 'Twas a looong but pleasant and interesting time. Met Elise for a brief moment...hullo! Kudos to Neil for the subhuman levels of patience to sign and chat with all of us. For the sake of your right hand, I'll wish for Ambidextrous Blessings before your next tour... Sorry this is miles from the comprehensive reporting many of you have treated us with, but slack just allowed me to just scrounge a little page together of a few freshly snapped photos that can be found here : http://www.envy.nu/ambienteye/photos/ngs/ngsigning.html . Thanks to all. -Sarah. And now back to those few remaining ag chapters. Num.
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permalink #341 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Mon 2 Jul 01 08:45
permalink #341 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Mon 2 Jul 01 08:45
Will- I'm not offended at all- if you notice, I very carefully don't say a dern thing about deLint's fantasy stuff- I don't read fantasy anyway, unless I'm desperate and the only other choice is a Harlequin Romance- but prefer his Urban Mythology. Guess it's like football to me- if I can't do it, for some arbitrary reason like gender, or in the case of fantasy, no relation to real life and no possibility of it, either - then I ain't interested. Like the song says, "Don't dream it, BE it."
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permalink #342 of 2008: Rebecca (nefertiti) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:24
permalink #342 of 2008: Rebecca (nefertiti) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:24
JaNell--so Memory and Dream is good, and should be read? I hate to admit that not only have I not read any deLint (for no known reason), I've actually had the abovementioned book for about 5 years...I bought it to read on a trip, was too tired on said trip to read it...and since then it seems to have some sort of taboo on it, and I can't manage to pluck it from the shelf... Blythe--I do indeed write; I got some stuff published in my college days, even went to some writer's workshops, and then (yet again, for no known reason) I just went totally the Emily Dickinson route. I don't know if I'd let somebody read my grocery list, these days. But Neil really is meltingly kind. Speaking of writer's workshops, the ones I went to were at the Hindman Settlement School in very very Eastern KY (the Appalachian Writers Workshop), and at one of them I finally got to meet Sharon McCrumb, who is a good friend of one of my uncles (who's also a writer). Has anyone read her? Sort of mystery/Appalachian ballads/folktales-infecting-the-present-day stuff. One of her books, The Rosewood Casket, is based, in part, on my family. Which is an odd feeling. So most of the time, while I was talking to her, she was grilling me for strange family-related information. Not exactly meltingly anything, I have to say, but she was really very nice. I just felt a little vampirized, afterwards. Wow, sorry, I'm running on a bit. (puts down cider glass)
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permalink #343 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:31
permalink #343 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:31
Janell - ROTFL! Thank you.. that kicks my Monday morning off nicely. Lisan - Welcome!
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permalink #344 of 2008: Rebecca (nefertiti) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:41
permalink #344 of 2008: Rebecca (nefertiti) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:41
Goodness, yes, I'm so rude: Hello Lisa! Have some cider...
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permalink #345 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:42
permalink #345 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 2 Jul 01 09:42
Janell - Re:116. (WARNING: POSSIBLE SPOILERS) I'm not sure that any more women who have sex in AG die then men do... In fact... I think that the only people who have sex (or mentioned sex) that don't die at one point or another are Bast and that girl that we see Wednesday with in the hotel. Laura dies. The guy she was blowing dies. Shadow dies. Wednesday dies. Bilquis dies. Her "john" dies (becomes "one" with the universe?) What's that woman's name that Shadow picks up hitchhiking? By the end of the book, she's got a lover AND she's gay and she lives! (Yay!)
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permalink #346 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Mon 2 Jul 01 10:40
permalink #346 of 2008: JaNell (janell) Mon 2 Jul 01 10:40
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permalink #347 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 2 Jul 01 10:48
permalink #347 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 2 Jul 01 10:48
JaNell- ROTFL= rolling on the floor laughing. I know you asked Dan, but I figured, since I knew... And the sex Shadow has only sort of happens in a dream; the cat goddess makes love to him, and, while it seemed a dream, it was pretty apparent (at least to me) that it actually happened. Rebecca- Try Trader, too. That was the first I read, and I really enjoyed it.
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permalink #348 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 2 Jul 01 11:11
permalink #348 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 2 Jul 01 11:11
I had a dream about Neil last night. I wish that I could remember more of it. I was walking with Neil and we were chatting and then we got to his house and he invited me in for dinner. So I stood around with him chatting in the kitchen as he fixed some sort of pasta dish with really thin noodles. I don't remember eating per se, but at some point that felt like it was afterwards I said "I should probably go now." and Neil said "That might be nice; I'm just back from a reading tour and I'd kind of like to go out on a date with my wife tonight." So I grinning and told him I'd see him later and then I left. Lisa -- Welcome. ^_^ I finally tracked down a signed copy of AG in my area. (In the process of hunting for it, I was pleased to find that every bookstore I went to had copies on the shelves. I informed them that they'd better make sure to keep it in stock, as it was now a NYT Best-seller.) The copy that I found had a nice little doodle of a pair of eyes. I didn't buy it, in the end, because: (a) I already have quite a number of things signed so graciously by Neil and figured I'd give someone else a chance, hoping that it wouldn't just end up on eBay, (b) I already own two copies and (c) on Friday, like sometime totally out of my wildest dreams, I found tucked in the back of a tiny bookstore a shelf that begs to be called All of The Rarer Gaiman Stuff That Dan Always Wanted But Could Never Find -- they have practically everything but the Duran, Duran book -- and I decided that I had to buy their copy of _What I Thought I Saw_, which has the photograph of Neil and Maddy signed by Neil and Kelli Bickman. Apparently, the owner is a big fan. So I'll be spending the book budget there for the next several weeks.
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permalink #349 of 2008: JaNell, who has no need for gears above 2nd (janell) Mon 2 Jul 01 11:22
permalink #349 of 2008: JaNell, who has no need for gears above 2nd (janell) Mon 2 Jul 01 11:22
Dan, Will - I'm just desperately looking for something to talk about over there, and apparently, I'm looking too deep or behind perfectly normal doors that go outside to regular gardens... *SIGH*. Think I'll slink back over here, and just talk to y'all, where I can be as silly as I want to be, or as deep as I can be... and not look like a *complete* misfit... ;>
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permalink #350 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 2 Jul 01 12:36
permalink #350 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 2 Jul 01 12:36
JaNell - hehe, I don't think slinking is necessary; I *know* I've heard weirder questions (just see the comments Blythe and I were making about the Seattle UW signing...) I think my favourite deLint book is The Wild Wood ... I probably sit and read it every few months, just because... Will (I think it was Will, anyhow) ... I saw AI this weekend, as well. I must admit I agree, it should have ended 20 minutes sooner; would have been the more tragic, and not created as many gaping plot holes (altho there were a few big ones before that, as well) ... my partner and I were both relatively disappointed in general, tho - it just seemed so endlessly, pointlessly sad... and what was with the weird middle "intermission" ... *shakes head* Well, it definately felt like a Kubrick movie. :-) -Kelly, who's braving her foot in mouth syndrome and posting a question in the interview topic...
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