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permalink #826 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 3 Aug 01 19:54
permalink #826 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 3 Aug 01 19:54
Dan -- sympathies... Mike: That's FANTASY MASTERWORKS, since I'm not too embarrassed to say it on your behalf, and THE DRAGON WAITING certainly is one of them. (It is, for anyone who hasn't read it, an astonishing alternate history set in Richard 3rd's day; the Dragon in question is Wales, and the most sympathetic character is, incidentally, a vampire. Wonderful work.) I read it in the UK edition. Don't know about the text, but the cover looked like they'd had an elementary school "paint a really ugly cover to a book called the Dreagon Waiting" competition, and printed the ugliest.
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permalink #827 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 3 Aug 01 19:58
permalink #827 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 3 Aug 01 19:58
And Mike, this topic doesn't really have a topic. It's just all the people who were left when the COUNTDOWN TO AMERICAN GODS topic ran out of room, so the Inkwell hosts gave us all somewhere to chat. There is nothing that *can* be off-topic here, if you see what I mean. So do not worry about topic drift. This one pulled free of its moorings a long time ago, and we all pretend not to have noticed.
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permalink #828 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 3 Aug 01 20:42
permalink #828 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 3 Aug 01 20:42
And I should mention that Mike will be having his own interview coming up, but not until October, I think, so there will definitely be a chance to talk to him then, too.
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permalink #829 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 3 Aug 01 20:43
permalink #829 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 3 Aug 01 20:43
E-mail from Kathy Li: michaela - another option, aside from NESFA, is if you were going to do some Dreamhaven shopping, *anyway* (as Neil Gaiman fans are wont to do), they also sell NESFA Press books, including FROM THE END OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY. And while you're there, take a peep at the Dreamhaven Press area, and TEMPORARY WALLS, which includes a John M. Ford story "Dateline: Colonus" of which I'm particularly fond. And yes, even if you hate Star Trek, try PLANET. Really.
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permalink #830 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 3 Aug 01 21:33
permalink #830 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 3 Aug 01 21:33
Kathy -- I finally got around today to taking the pens out of my pocket, and filling them, and will soon start writing some of the thing I'm doing with Gene Wolfe for the Horror Con with them. They are lovely and I am grateful. Is there anything I should know about their care and feeding, filling, cleaning, etc?
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permalink #831 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Fri 3 Aug 01 22:21
permalink #831 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Fri 3 Aug 01 22:21
Neil -- ah. Okay. Topicality noted and filed. Linda -- Glad to hear about "Colonus." The only place WALLS got reviewed was Locus, and the person involved mentioned every story but that one. Weird. The original story in 20th CENTURY, "Here to Get My Baby Out of Jail," is vaguely a companion piece to "Colonus" -- they aren't a series, or set in the same universe, but . . . it's not really explainable without giving away things, but should be obvious if one's read them both. What a circumlocution -that- was. Oh, and back to topicality: "Day of the Dead," Neil's episode of BABYLON 5, will air next Tuesday on the Skiffy Channel, for anyone who hasn't seen/taped it. Which led, in never mind what context, to someone asking about Minbari humor, which led to: A Priest, a Warrior, and a Worker walk into a Minbari bar and order spiritual enlightenment. The bartender says to the Priest, "Shut your eyes and think of the sun." The Priest does, and the bartender hits him in the face with a cream pie. The Priest splutters and runs away. The bartender taps the Warrior on the left shoulder, and when he turns, knocks him cold from the other side with a bung-starter. Then the bartender gives the Worker a beer with a fish in it and the bills for all three customers. The Worker pays up without a word. After half an hour or so, the fish is starting to swim sideways, and the Worker's got a big smile. "You sure you're okay?" says the bartender. "I've achieved true perception," the Worker says. "You buy a round of enlightenment, and you get free beer."
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permalink #832 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 4 Aug 01 10:52
permalink #832 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 4 Aug 01 10:52
Is this where I admit to a crush on Londo Malari? Or is that some other topic?
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permalink #833 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Sat 4 Aug 01 11:20
permalink #833 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Sat 4 Aug 01 11:20
>(It is, for anyone who hasn't read it, an astonishing alternate >history set in Richard 3rd's day.... (Wonderful work.) So *that's* why Amazon.com had an ad for the new DVD release of _The Black Adder_ series on the same page as _The Last Hot Time_. I was a little confused about that. "Oh dear... Richard the Third."
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permalink #834 of 2008: shira (jonl) Sat 4 Aug 01 15:45
permalink #834 of 2008: shira (jonl) Sat 4 Aug 01 15:45
Email from shira: I was just looking through the Walker Art Center calendar (looking for the listing of when Le Tigre will supposedly be playing there) and I noticed that Scott McCloud was going to be lecturing there on August 16th. Maybe this has already been mentioned and maybe not, but I figured I'd post it anyway because it might be of interest to some people. Neil, it was fun to hear you on Mid Morning the other day. My family didn't know about it until the night before when, while eating dinner outside, my next door neighbor stepped out the back door of her house and said, "You know, Neil Gaiman's going to be on Mid Morning tomorrow." At that point I realized that I really do have a reputation... Also, I was wondering, have you heard the Shostakovich 8 string quartet? I'm really into quartet music these days - I had exactly the sort of experience at quartet camp that one should have. I guess that's all for now. Maybe I'll start reading this board more regularly. shira
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permalink #835 of 2008: Jinx watching the weather (jinx) Sat 4 Aug 01 17:54
permalink #835 of 2008: Jinx watching the weather (jinx) Sat 4 Aug 01 17:54
Ninave~ I can understand the "people she respects/first name" thing, I am just as bad, only with musicians. I totally freeze and can barely talk in those cases. Mike~ Topic drift is an evolution in my book. People go from talking about the most mundane things and it goes in directions you never thought of. Now if I could keep topic drift out of my stories I'd be way better off. And thanks for the B5 update, cause I've been eagerly waiting for this episode once I figured out they were getting close, has one of my three favorite moments in it. The first being the "I would have at least boffed the guy" JaNell~ Londo isn't bad,...but how on earth can you overlook Garibaldi? The man makes me melt. Jinx isn't frightened by thunder and lightening,....honest.
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permalink #836 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 4 Aug 01 18:18
permalink #836 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 4 Aug 01 18:18
Thanks again, everyone, for the sympathies. I will be sure to deliver them to my co-star as well... I do have some good news, however. I just got back from our final story-selection/first call-backs for my October show. One piece is still in rights negotiations, so I can't talk about it. But... We'll be doing a short story of Chekhov's called "The Apple Orchard" This will be directed by a newcomer to the group who has some very exciting ideas about how to stage it. There will also be two stories that I will be directing that most of you are familiar with. I'll be directing "The Arbitrary Placement of Walls" by our own Martha Soukup. (Martha, I'm going to want to keep you updated as I work on the story and *any* suggestions, ideas, objections you have ... well... let me know, please). I will also be directing "We Can Get Them For You Wholesale" by our very own Neil Gaiman. Both Martha's and Neil's stories were received with enthusiastic unanimous approval, and I'm delighted that Neil's story was given to me in addition to Martha's to direct. Neil, as with Martha, I'm more than willing to keep you appraised of the work I'm doing and if you have any objections to anything I propose, let me know. According to our producer, the rights issues are pretty much taken care of, but I want to do something you'd be pleased with. .. and I know that you haven't seen an adaptation you've been pleased with yet. For that matter, I know that if I don't do a good job with this show, I'm going to have the Well Contingent to deal with. *grin*
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permalink #837 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sat 4 Aug 01 20:14
permalink #837 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sat 4 Aug 01 20:14
Neil - But unlikely people/characters are the best kind. And is the unlikely miss Maddy willing to share her book with the rest of us? :-) Got Planet, have started it, am already recommending it to people. Can't find Peace locally, will have to go the Amazon route. Don't know why I've shared that, guess I feel like if my post is only two sentences long it's not enough to post. Jen.
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permalink #838 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sat 4 Aug 01 22:11
permalink #838 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sat 4 Aug 01 22:11
<stagewalker> - that's absolutely wonderful. I can't wait to see how they turn out.
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permalink #839 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sat 4 Aug 01 22:35
permalink #839 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sat 4 Aug 01 22:35
Pamela -- If Dick Plantagenet appears in LAST HOT TIME, it is entirely without my permission. He'd stick out anyhow -- it's an extremely American book, except for the elves, and some of them are trying to be North Siders.
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permalink #840 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 5 Aug 01 06:45
permalink #840 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 5 Aug 01 06:45
Jinxie wrote "Londo isn't bad,...but how on earth can you overlook Garibaldi? The man makes me melt. " 1) Garibaldi has a drinking problem. Forget that s#!t. 2) Garibaldi turns down his friend in, I believe, aforementioned episode... wuss. Coward. She loves you, you idiot, are you doing anything *better* with your time? I could see him as a friend, definitely, though. The other one I find attractive, I can't remember his name since I came in late to the series and only saw most episodes once, is the Galahad character... but I married him. ; ) Oddly enough, ConCat sent over people in costume one year to answer phones at the local PBS station's telethon... Cam went as Londo, wearing some of my costume stuff... we weren't asked back, can't figure out why... Don't tell Neil that he wrote my favorite episode... Zoot! Zoot!
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permalink #841 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 5 Aug 01 08:33
permalink #841 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 5 Aug 01 08:33
My goodness.
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permalink #842 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 5 Aug 01 09:24
permalink #842 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 5 Aug 01 09:24
Martha - who are you my-goodnessing? And about what?
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permalink #843 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 5 Aug 01 10:09
permalink #843 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 5 Aug 01 10:09
Oh, sorry. My-goodnessing the play announcement, which is the first announcement I've heard they've decided to adapt my story. (And Neil's.)
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permalink #844 of 2008: Kathy Li (jonl) Sun 5 Aug 01 13:10
permalink #844 of 2008: Kathy Li (jonl) Sun 5 Aug 01 13:10
Email from Kathy Li (I inadvertently posted this in the wrong topic yesterday, moving it over): Neil -- Well, aside from the vintagepens website advice, not really. The Lady Patricia Ink-Vue's transparency *might* be dyed by some more heavily-pigmented inks, so don't stick Parker Penman or Omas in it if it isn't red. Like the Sheaffer, the Lady Patricia Ink-Vue isn't a tip-filler, so you have to dunk to the section to fill it. And always have a tissue/penwiper ready with the Lady Patricia Ink-Vue; the Waterman feed from that era doesn't have any fins (Sheaffer held the patent) to channel excess inkflow, so it can get soggy. The 51, I blush to admit, is not wholly original--I found it in an antique mall, sitting in a mug, without its cap and forlorn ($3 on the price sticker), and I happened to have a good 51 cap in my parts box from an earlier 51-restoration-learning-disaster. I felt like Mrs. Whitaker in "Chivalry". Only I couldn't find the Mills & Boon I was looking for. Mike -- Maybe the reviewer in LOCUS didn't know the middle play; after all, it was only a gospel musical and never an Anouilh. :-) And I'm glad to have my suspicions confirmed as to the relationship between the two stories. Perhaps "Troy: The Movie" is a cousin as well? Linda -- Ooo! Goodie! More chances to bug Mike about his stuff!! And I've suddenly got this urge to go hunt up CAPTAIN CONFEDERACY #11 (I've got 9 and 10).
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permalink #845 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 6 Aug 01 09:20
permalink #845 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 6 Aug 01 09:20
~ Birth Announcement ~ From Chloie Airioldi, Chairman of ConCat, regarding the new child of her son Jaime and his SO Amy: ... the baby was born Sat. Aug. 4 at 11:16. She was 7 lbs. 10 ozs. & they named her Aidyn Ryn. Chloie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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permalink #846 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 6 Aug 01 10:07
permalink #846 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 6 Aug 01 10:07
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permalink #847 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 6 Aug 01 10:11
permalink #847 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 6 Aug 01 10:11
Mike: >Pamela -- If Dick Plantagenet appears in LAST HOT TIME, it is >entirely without my permission. We were just having a discussion about recalcitrant characters, wandering in and out of stories and coffee shops of their own volition, over on #116. And if ever there was a recalcitrant character, it's R3. (However, I have to 'fess up to ignorance. I haven't read DRAGON or LHT--LHT's on my wish list, and I'll certainly keep my eye out for FANTASY MASTERWORKS. I was just attempting a random association for my own amusement.) >He'd stick out anyhow -- it's an extremely American book, except for >the elves, and some of them are trying to be North Siders. Oh, well. That's okay. Neil's got some rather interesting types wandering around his America, too. And some of them are trying to be Cheeseheads.
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permalink #848 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 6 Aug 01 10:28
permalink #848 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 6 Aug 01 10:28
Martha, sorry if that was a shock.. I know that I had told you a few times that it was under heavy consideration, but in a fit of excitement I decided to shout it from the rooftops. The committee was extremely enthusiastic about it. Universal thumbs up. Madman, I'm extremely excited too. I did the adaptation of Wholesale this weekend (the story's amazingly easy to adapt for the stage, especially since we've got a lot of multimedia resources which allow me to project Peter Painter's memories, thoughts, and dreams up on the screen behind him.) The multimedia also gives me some incredible tools to create the "ghosts" in Arbitrary Placement. (life size video images on the same level as the live actors) I'm so excited about this I could pop. During callbacks I went over the premise of Arbitrary Placement with the actors, and all the women shuddered in horror at the thought of such a situation.
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permalink #849 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 6 Aug 01 11:44
permalink #849 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 6 Aug 01 11:44
Welcome to Aidyn Ryn. stagewalker, it'll be fascinating to see how you approach Walls. I just need to know, who'll play the nekkid guy?
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permalink #850 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 6 Aug 01 12:34
permalink #850 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 6 Aug 01 12:34
"It's not a party 'til the nekkid guy shows up." the movie P.C.U.
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