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permalink #701 of 1500: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Thu 2 Jun 05 06:39
permalink #701 of 1500: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Thu 2 Jun 05 06:39
It is a warm feeling to rejoice with folks who are just experiencing Neil's sci-fi novels. What a great joy that was for me, to enter into his world of thought. I get a warm fuzzy just thinking about it.
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permalink #702 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Thu 2 Jun 05 09:08
permalink #702 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Thu 2 Jun 05 09:08
Georgia, if you can make it to NYC, so can I (after all my trip is a bit shorter). I'd be happy to eat sushi with you there.
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permalink #703 of 1500: AwwWWW! Now my head's not taped to the TV! (tinymonster) Thu 2 Jun 05 10:37
permalink #703 of 1500: AwwWWW! Now my head's not taped to the TV! (tinymonster) Thu 2 Jun 05 10:37
Me too! We'll see what happens when the schedule is released. And how neat, Georgia, that you've heard of João!
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permalink #704 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Thu 2 Jun 05 11:18
permalink #704 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Thu 2 Jun 05 11:18
American Gods is Neil? Must aquire. (Heard part of it in book-on-tape form in a friend's car.)
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permalink #705 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Thu 2 Jun 05 13:24
permalink #705 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Thu 2 Jun 05 13:24
I think Neverwhere might be my favorite--I am in love with the Marquis. I suspect he might have had something to do with you hating Neil, randomize27. ;-) You should see the TV series--the actor who plays the Marquis, Paterson Joseph, nails the part, as do, IMHO, Mr. Croup and Mr. Vandemar. I will probably be able to do sushi in NYC also, with a little advance warning. I'm planning to move to Connecticut around the first of August. I wish Neil were coming somewhere closer on the tour--I've heard the NYC readings are mob scenes. Chicago can be a little crowded, somewhere around 450 for an in-store signing, but when Tara went to NY for a signing a couple of years ago, she said it was pretty crazy. Oh, well. I'll be there, regardless. It will be a lot more fun if y'all are all going! nukem777--it is fun, isn't it? It usually makes me want to go reread something.....hmmmm.......Stardust, maybe? I haven't reread that one .....ever, actually. I think it's the only one I haven't read 3 or 4 times. This summer, I'm going to reread all of Sandman. I keep trying, but there's always 1 or 2 out on loan, and then I get distracted into reading something else. DanGuy--you are an evil man. It's my favorite thing about you. ;-) Mary
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permalink #706 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Thu 2 Jun 05 13:52
permalink #706 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Thu 2 Jun 05 13:52
Many moons ago, I read Neil's topic on GEnie. So, I clearly remember that he wrote Neverwhere for the BBC, then while it was filming, he wrote the novel. Afterwords, he commented that the Marquis was rewritten to be more like Paterson Joseph played him.
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permalink #707 of 1500: Daniel (dfowlkes) Fri 3 Jun 05 03:23
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permalink #708 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Fri 3 Jun 05 08:16
permalink #708 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Fri 3 Jun 05 08:16
Actually, the Marquis had more to do with me forgiving Neil. It was the island scene near the end that had me hating Neil, until the Marquis shows up in the doorway. I'd love to get to see the BBC version...sounds like it'd be fascinating.
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permalink #709 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Fri 3 Jun 05 09:36
permalink #709 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Fri 3 Jun 05 09:36
randomize27--it's available on DVD from any number of places like Borders and Amazon.com, and the really cool thing is that Neil comes over, has some popcorn, and tells you all about the genesis of the project. Well, at least it seems that way. Actually he just does the commentary track, but it's delightful. I have got to get my tail to the Theatre Building and check out Stardust. Aaaarrrgh! This weekend is prom & next weekend is graduation & Blues Fest, my grades have to go in, and I'm going to see Mom on the 18th for a week. Plus I have a friend in a show I have to see this weekend. Hey, Neiliest, are you going to get to go? Please let us know what you think. Sushi? Mary (watching U2:Elevation 2001 and considering chucking it all to become U2's version of a Deadhead)
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permalink #710 of 1500: AwwWWW! Now my head's not taped to the TV! (tinymonster) Fri 3 Jun 05 10:18
permalink #710 of 1500: AwwWWW! Now my head's not taped to the TV! (tinymonster) Fri 3 Jun 05 10:18
Mmmm, Paterson Joseph. <drool> Funny, you'd think Neil would have mentioned on the commentary about rewriting the part to fit him, but I don't remember hearing that. It was still an informative and entertaining commentary, though. (Random -- There's also an interview with Neil on the DVD that was done at the time the show first aired. He looks the same.) Mary, I had wondered if you were making the move to CT this year. It would be really cool to get to meet you! I met Tara during the _Endless Nights_ tour. (And then she disappeared from the Well. Was it something I said? ;) ) -Christy, who would gladly treat Neil to sushi in DC on the condition that he teach her about sushi.
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permalink #711 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Fri 3 Jun 05 11:54
permalink #711 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Fri 3 Jun 05 11:54
If I remember correctly, Neil took what Paterson Joseph did with the part, and used it to modified the character of the Marquis in the book - as opposed to doing a rewrite his part in the film. Although, I can't support this statement with any actual cite.
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permalink #712 of 1500: AwwWWW! Now my head's not taped to the TV! (tinymonster) Fri 3 Jun 05 12:03
permalink #712 of 1500: AwwWWW! Now my head's not taped to the TV! (tinymonster) Fri 3 Jun 05 12:03
Oh, that's what I meant to say.
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permalink #713 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Fri 3 Jun 05 16:04
permalink #713 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Fri 3 Jun 05 16:04
I have to wonder about the motivation for that. Was it, "He's doing so much more with the character than I thought possible"? Or, "I just wasn't really sure about that character until he brought it to life"? Whichever way it went, in the book, it's a great character.
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permalink #714 of 1500: Daniel (dfowlkes) Fri 3 Jun 05 17:57
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permalink #715 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Sat 4 Jun 05 07:14
permalink #715 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Sat 4 Jun 05 07:14
Doesn't Clive just do supernatural horror, whereas Neil does supernatural suspense?
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permalink #716 of 1500: Daniel (dfowlkes) Sat 4 Jun 05 09:22
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permalink #717 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 6 Jun 05 11:13
permalink #717 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 6 Jun 05 11:13
I suppose I should read some Clive Barker, but I'm not much of a horror fan. I gets nightmares. However, what I adore about Neil's writing is that he's always Neil. There's something about his voice that is utterly unique, even when he has an American accent, like in American Gods. I honestly think that I could have recognized his voice in an excerpt from the Duran Duran book if I had read it without knowing what it was. So I can't imagine Clive Barker sounding like him. Yeah, I'd have put her off the flist, too. ;-) Mary (reading Protect and Defend by Richard North Patterson)
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permalink #718 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Tue 7 Jun 05 10:00
permalink #718 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Tue 7 Jun 05 10:00
OK, the blog has been amusing me all week, because I have a nice cup of tea (Typhoo, which they are now selling at Meier's, Neil) and a McVitie's Hob Nob every day at school with Neil. Either 1st or 5th period, when I get all the kids out of my room, I sit down with my tea and a biccie and read the blog. It's my mental health break. So all this discussion of tea-making and the nicecupofteaandasitdown website have given me a giggle. Apparently there are more of us than I thought at my "Tea And Cookies With Neil" break. (This week it's been Tea and Cake with Neil, which sends me off into a Eddie Izzard-inspired giggle fit every morning.)
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permalink #719 of 1500: Georgia (georgiac) Tue 7 Jun 05 11:12
permalink #719 of 1500: Georgia (georgiac) Tue 7 Jun 05 11:12
Mary... "You! Cake or death?" "Uh, death, please. No, cake! Cake! Cake, sorry. Sorry..." I'm a big Eddie fan. It's funny all this talk about tea. We use it here as medicine - not so much black tea, but all other herbs ("Now, You say 'erbs' and we say 'herbs' because there's a f***ing h in it!" - I'm going to stop, promise.) Kilted Keeper of the Rat Gravy & Anybody else who wants to eat sushi in NY I've arranged things so that I can travel sans problem, so I should be able to make it. I'm reluctant to go through a mob scene though (I'm trying to picture how a signing can become a mob scene and all I can think about is the story about when Mr. Gaiman was Beatle-lised here in Brazil). Whatever you guys decide works for me. I just don't want to fly more than I have to.
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permalink #720 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Tue 7 Jun 05 12:09
permalink #720 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Tue 7 Jun 05 12:09
I've never seen him actually mobbed. Here's how a signing in NYC works. People travel a ridiculous number of miles and arrive as early as they can. Eventually, the store realizes that a large group of dangerously crazed people have shown up 5 hours before a signing and attempts to create order by some scheme of handing out numbers (if they are smart) or create some form of line (if they don't realize how badly we will clog the store). Fans will start talking with one another, forming an instant bond. Stores with cafes will sell out of the food item you most desire. Cafes near the store will be jammed with people holding numbers. At approximately the start time, a manager will come out, look awestruck, and announce that Neil is on his way. Shortly thereafter, Neil is escorted to the stage. We sit, pay attention, listen to Neil talk and read, and perhaps ask a few questions. The manager will ask us to limit the number of things we get signed. Neil will quietly confer with the manager point out that if he sits here and the line goes that way it will work better - "trust me, I've done this before." For the next unbelievable number of hours an mostly organized, polite, star-struck line will move forward, more of in a rambling way than in a march. Each of us will say, "Hi Neil" - then be awestruck as he says "Hi" back and acts as if he is just a normal person. Then a hardcore group will stand around looking for directions, achieve critical mass, and go to find food.
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permalink #721 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Tue 7 Jun 05 23:13
permalink #721 of 1500: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Tue 7 Jun 05 23:13
Um, stupid question: Where's Neil's blog?
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permalink #722 of 1500: Daniel (dfowlkes) Wed 8 Jun 05 03:54
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permalink #723 of 1500: Georgia (georgiac) Wed 8 Jun 05 04:55
permalink #723 of 1500: Georgia (georgiac) Wed 8 Jun 05 04:55
I've just had RPS explained to me and I've decided it bothers me. More than it probably should, but it creeps me out. Kilted Gravy ;) Sounds less threatening than I thought at first. Is there a chance Mr. Gaiman will be signing somewhere along the east coast where the lines won't be terribly long? I didn't think so. I know I sound spoiled, but it has more to do with my low blood pressure than with my unwillingness to stand for hours. Question: I've been asked by a friend to a Discworld convention in Leicestershire - anybody been to one of those? My youngest would love to go. I keep asking for help with information here, but you do know and I don't.
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permalink #724 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Wed 8 Jun 05 07:58
permalink #724 of 1500: Keeper of Rat Gravy (notshakespeare) Wed 8 Jun 05 07:58
RPS - Rock Paper Scissors? I can see how that would bother some people, but you get used to it.
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permalink #725 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Wed 8 Jun 05 10:56
permalink #725 of 1500: Mary Roane (the-roane) Wed 8 Jun 05 10:56
notshakespeare--hee-hee. I'm curious, too, though-- georgiac--what is RPS? And I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that anyone was rude or the crowd was obnoxious. I just meant that there would probably be about two to three times as many people there as I'm used to in Chicago, where I'm always the last in line (it guarantees that Neil is always glad to see me--when he sees me, he's done ;-) ) And coming back from NYC after a 6 or 7 hour signing may be a bad idea, if I have to be back in Conn. for school the next day. Maybe I'll come eat sushi with y'all & not stay for the signing, just go up to Boston & get stuff signed there.......oh, well, it'll all work out. One of my big worries is that I was such a genius that I didn't get U2 tix for the second leg of the tour, and now I'm going to be paying huge to see them in Hartford. Bummer! It's hard trying to plan the *necessary* bits of my life in a strange place. There are a few things I never miss--Neil, U2, the first night of a Daniel Day-Lewis movie, anything with Tony Leung Chiu-Wai, any episode of "Lost".......and lots of those things are happening before I get to know my new home. Good thing I'm a quick study, and not afraid to do things on my own! Mary (loving Richard North Patterson at the moment)
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