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permalink #176 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 09:08
permalink #176 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 09:08
"Blue Roses" is more or less "about" the drive home from seeing the Dead in Portland in 1974. Which, I would like to point out, predates the "blue rose" GD poster by four years. But aside from borrowing a symbol that is central to Robert Hunter's mythology, it's not much about the Dead. "Who Killed Uncle John?" does indeed owe a major debt to Bob Dylan, who in turn owes a debt to "Who Killed Cock Robin," etc. We call this "the folk process," and burble about "let him who is without sin" and all that. I know I've heard Emmylou's "Waltz Across Texas Tonight," but I can't hear it in my mind. If I borrowed from it, it was unconscious. The reference to "Waltz Across Texas" is verbal only, not at all musical (for one thing, my song is not in waltz time). > And I love seeing or hearing things like that line from The Waybacks. I > haven't heard the song; do they have that line scan the same way Dylan's > line does? There is a certain rhythmic congruence between the two, but I wouldn't say Stevie copped the lyric or the melody. Just a really effective reference.
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permalink #177 of 771: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 22 Jun 06 10:00
permalink #177 of 771: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 22 Jun 06 10:00
I like the phrase "more or less 'about'." Although we were talking about narratives a few days ago, this suggests that you think of lyrics (Blue Roses) more in terms of their evocative qualities than in terms of explicit (or specific) narratives. Although some of the -- like An American Family -- are actually quite specific in the stories they tell. Is that another "continuum" -- lyric content can fall anywhere in between pure poetic evocation and linear storytelling? Do you see your lyrics tending toward one end or the other of such a continuum? And I have always wondered: does the title "An American Family" intentionally allude to the old PBS documentary series about the Loud family?
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permalink #178 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 10:29
permalink #178 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 10:29
I never saw that PBS program, although I was certainly aware of it. "An American Family" is the title because the three characters in the song ( lyrics are here: http://dgans.com/lyrics.html#AmFam ; audio is at http://www.dgans.com/inkwell ) are victims of the corporate capitalism that is (in my opinion) destroying America.
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permalink #179 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 10:34
permalink #179 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 10:34
> Is that another "continuum" -- lyric content can fall anywhere in between > pure poetic evocation and linear storytelling? >Do you see your lyrics tending toward one end or the other of such a con- >tinuum? For sure. I think we're seeing a blurring of that line in literature these days, with the confessional autobiography being all the rage, and fiction presented as same being the scandal du jour. And in journalism, the Jayson Blair scandal etc. In my neck of the creative woods, I have no standard of truth to uphold. I have some songs that tell my story pretty faithfully, and some that take my life as source material, and some that are entirely fabricated. As it should be.
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permalink #180 of 771: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 22 Jun 06 11:55
permalink #180 of 771: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 22 Jun 06 11:55
Interesting that there's no intentional connection between your "An American Family" and the TV series. I could quite easily spin out an interpretation of the song based on the premise that the connection is intended that would, I think, still be true to the song but would also, because it's based on a false premise, be quite wrong. Obviously, mis-readings happen all the time, and we obviously see it all the time in the Grateful Dead world, with wild-eyed DeadHeads seeing cosmic portent in lyrics in ways that simply could not have been intended. Have you ever been put into the position of having to "correct" listeners' misapprehension of your work?
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permalink #181 of 771: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:04
permalink #181 of 771: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:04
It somehow also seems apropos here to note that in the "Nutrition Facts" column at http://www.trufun.com/inkwell/, "Total Tale" comes in at 81g, but the componant parts ("Truth" and "Fiction," each of which is 38g) add up to only 76g. Which, I guess, leaves 5g that can only be described as "something else."
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permalink #182 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:14
permalink #182 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:14
Would that my fame were so widespread that a culture of interpretation sprang up! Let alone misinterpretation. I've taken some heat for "Who Killed Uncle John?" (lyrics below; audio at http://www.dgans.com/inkwell ) from Deadheads who felt I was dining on steaks cut from their sacred cow. How dare he point the finger at me! No one killed Jerry! etc. Well, uh, duh. Fortunately, I had a few defenders out there, and I also was able to convince some of my detractors that several of the characters in the song were, to greater or lesser degree, embodiments of my ownself. Who Killed Uncle John? Who killed Uncle John And kept the show from going on? "Not I," said the nitrous man Counting money in his van "The parking lot's my neighborhood I'm sure the show inside was good" "Not I," said the tribute band Playing for nostalgic fans "It's everybody's flame to keep Twice as high and half as deep" It wasn't me who stopped his heart I served the man who served his art Who killed Uncle John And kept the show from going on? "Not I," said the idiot Flaming on the Internet "He owed his wealth to guys like me I take his work so seriously" "Not I," said the completist Fondling his compact discs "I'm sorry that he's gone away I'll soon own every note he played" It wasn't me who stopped his heart I served the man who served his art Who killed Uncle John And kept the show from going on? "Not I," said the mainstream press "I found his image ludicrous His followers were so uncool I made him out to be a fool" "Not I," said the publicist Protecting him from journalists "I'm writing his biography I needed him to talk to me" It wasn't me who stopped his heart I served the man who served his art "Not I," said the acid-head "And I don't think he's really dead He served his time in hell on earth Only I know his true worth" "Not I," said the heroin Slouching into Terrapin "I helped him to escape his fame By letting him forget his name" It wasn't me who stopped his heart I served the man who served his art Who killed Uncle John And kept the show from going on? "Not I," said the engineer Whispering in someone's ear "I woke up worried every day And went to bed each night that way" "Not I," said the kwipment krew "He loved me and hated you Guts to open, trips to win I stayed right in the game with him" It wasn't me who stopped his heart I served the man who served his art Who killed Uncle John And kept the show from going on? "Not I," said the dharma bum Speaking through his talking drum "Not I," said the entourage manufacturing mirage "Not I," said the man from merch Selling souvenirs in church "Not I," said the radio host Refusing to give up the ghost "Not I," said the DEA Deploying agents where he played "Not I," said the troubadour "Not I" -- "Not I," said the dancing girl Interrupted in mid-twirl "I'll show you where the spirit went I'll meet you at the Incident"
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permalink #183 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:15
permalink #183 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:15
Slippage. Gary, the "nutrition facts" panel was literally dreamed up. I go tup in the middle of the night and wrote some of that down, and made up the rest in the morning. I didn't think too much about it, and I deliberately did not edit after the fact. So it's a mystery to me, too.
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permalink #184 of 771: Pat Adams (scarlet) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:30
permalink #184 of 771: Pat Adams (scarlet) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:30
Love the line "twice as high and half as deep" so much.
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permalink #185 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:36
permalink #185 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:36
Hard to sing that in front of some of my GD-tribute-band friends, but the good ones know who they are and the others tend not to recognize themselves.
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permalink #186 of 771: Pat Adams (scarlet) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:51
permalink #186 of 771: Pat Adams (scarlet) Thu 22 Jun 06 12:51
Ain't that always the way?
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permalink #187 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 13:54
permalink #187 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 13:54
'strue.
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permalink #188 of 771: Ruth Allison (tinydancer) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:02
permalink #188 of 771: Ruth Allison (tinydancer) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:02
Stevie Nicks keeps a pad of paper by her bedside for those dreamtime revelations. Randy Newman said so in the interview you posted. Do you?
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permalink #189 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:06
permalink #189 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:06
Randy Newman explicitly said that he DIDN'T do that. I do.
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permalink #190 of 771: Ruth Allison (tinydancer) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:18
permalink #190 of 771: Ruth Allison (tinydancer) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:18
I know. He said he didn't do that, but that Stevie and Paul Simon do.
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permalink #191 of 771: John P. McAlpin (john-p-mcalpin) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:27
permalink #191 of 771: John P. McAlpin (john-p-mcalpin) Thu 22 Jun 06 16:27
It sounds clear that you are not making music to make money. But you have economic obligations. And you need to buy strings and fancy foot boxes. So, David, can you talk a bit about the business of modern music? What's it like dealing with managers, booking agents, promoters? How much do you do on your own for the tour? When it comes to producing and marketing your music on compact disc, how hard is it to turn a profit? And what about the role of the Internet in marketing your music?
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permalink #192 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 18:15
permalink #192 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 18:15
I am making music to make money. That's not the only reason I make music, of course, nor is it the main reason. I make music because it's what I do. I would like to earn enough of a living from music to be able to do it full- time. (Not that I am at all unhappy with my day job!) The business of music is, in a word, difficult. It's harder now to make a living as a musician - at least the way I do it - than it was 30 years ago, when I got onto this path. In the '70s, songwriters had their songs recorded by other musicians, and they made records of their own. They played on each other's records. Nowadays there are many more musicians and fewer paths to success. The mainstream record business has always been designed to cheat artists. But that's irrelevant to me, because the kind of music I make isn't of interest to the mainstream music business. Nor am I interested in creating the kind of music that is marketed that way. Career longevity doesn't seem likely for too many who do take that path, for sure. The music I make, and most of the music I love, happens at the grass-roots level and rarely shows up on the charts. And that's really fine with me, because I want to remain in control of my work. I've produced all of my own releases, with the exception of the concert DVD "Live at the Powerhouse," which was produced by an outside party that did nothing to get it into the market. I have a basement full of 'em, and so does he. Eric Rawlins and I raised the money for "Home By Morning," hired a producer, paid the musicians and the studio and, hired and paid the artist who painted the cover and the designer who created the package, and sent it off the the pressing plant. We haven't earned back all the money (ours and our friends') we spent on it, but we sort of didn't expect to. It was an adventure Eric and I wanted to experience together. "Home By Morning" provided part of the impetus to get me out on the road, and it certainly added to my credibility when I was an unknown performer - a radio guy stepping out from behind the microphone. I funded the CD single "Monica Lewinsky" because I thought the song had some potential as a topical record. I did not have the resources to bring it to market, but I think I've earned back most of what I spent on it. Janey Fritsche's cover art ( http://www.trufun.com/discography/MonicaLewinsky.jpg ) is brilliant, and I'm proud as hell to have this CD in my discography. I put "Solo Acoustic" out in 2003 because I had to have something to sell on tour and I didn't have any record companies offering to fund a project of any kind. I compiled it from live recordings, plus one song recorded in a studio. I used a photograph that my wife took at Joshua Tree, psychedelicized in photoshop by my friend Ned, and paid a designer to create the CD package. I've pressed 3,000 of that one, I think, and probably sold in the neighborhood of 1200. I pay royalties on ten cover songs, but aside from that, I keep all the proceeds. My most recent release, "Solo Electric," is all originals (with two collaborations - one with Lorin Rowan, one with Robert Hunter). I designed an insert card at home - a self-portrait on the front, and plain text on the back. The CD is burned, a hundred at a time, by the same guy who duplicates my radio show every week. It's a low-key package, but the music on it is very good and I've sold several hundred copies. Every nickel I take in from these CDs goes back into my musical career. The profits from the discs are useful, of course, but from a marketing standpoint, it's good to have four CDs and a concert DVD in that press kit and on that web site. I sell three of the CDs through CDBaby, which gets me into the iTunes Music Store, and I have two for sale via amazon.com. I don't sell very many through either channel, but I get a small check from CDBaby every now and then reflecting downloads of CDs and individual songs. I don't make a huge amount of money from touring, either. I'm not a major draw anywhere, and I'm not even a minor draw in very mnany places. I am building an audience, and I have enough regular festival gigs that I can afford to take modest guarantees for club gigs that I book around those appearances. Again, everything is an investment in the future and an ongoing enrichment of my skills and experience. I do my best to give a worthwhile performance every time I get on stage, and the promoters who pay attention - who listen with their ears instead of their wallets - are increasingly taking notice. As my performance has evolved from solo acoustic to solo electric - that is, as I've added the technological infrastructure to do something more interesting than just stand there singing and playing - I think it's becoming easier for me to differentiate myself from the "competition." These things take time. I am happy with my progress, and I am doing the best work of my life both as a musician and as a radio producer.
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permalink #193 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 18:25
permalink #193 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 18:25
I've had a booking agent for less than a year, and a manager for less time than that. It's great to have a team, and it's great to have people whose job it is to know the venues and the markets and the competition, etc., so I don't have to reinvent all those wheels and I don't have to spend time reading Pollstar when I should be writing songs. It's also great to have advocates. When I started touring, I was booked by John Metzger, the editor of an online music magazine called The Music Box ( http://musicbox-online.com/ ). He encouraged me, and he knocked on doors on my behalf, and he got me out there. We parted on good terms a while ago, and I booked myself for a few years. Then I was approached by Nancy Lewis-Pegel, based in Decatur, Georgia, and I very happily signed on with her company, Brilliant Productions. She has several other clients, and she knows talent buyers and venues and markets and trends and all sorts of other things I am only dimly aware of. Likewise my manager, Neil Glazer. He recently stepped out on his own after several years with another management company. He's hungry and he's growing, and he knows I'm going to do what I need to do without requiring him to be a babysitter. I'm in my tenth year as a would-be national act, but I've been in and around the music industry for 35 years. I know what I can do ad I have few illusions about the business. My team knows I'm not going to drive them crazy, and I know they can't make miracles happen.
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permalink #194 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 18:25
permalink #194 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 18:25
More later.
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permalink #195 of 771: Ruth Allison (tinydancer) Thu 22 Jun 06 20:32
permalink #195 of 771: Ruth Allison (tinydancer) Thu 22 Jun 06 20:32
Interview in today's IJ with Stevie Coyle: http://marinij.com/lifestyles/ci_3969010
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permalink #196 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:07
permalink #196 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:07
Thanks for the pointer, Ruth!
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permalink #197 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:19
permalink #197 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:19
I had to go to a neighborhood meeting. Back now. Managers and booking agents can be a great asset, or they can kill your career. Managers look at the big picture, make connections with other artists for tours and co-bills, negotiate record deals, advise, support, counsel, assist, support, and on occasion, kick ass (yours or someone else's). Booking agents, same thing: they know what's going in in your career and in your market and in your touring zones, now and in the past and in the future. That's when they're doing their jobs. I've never had to deal with a representative who fell asleep at the switch, got fucked up on drugs, lost interest, lost the will to live, etc. But I know others who have. It's hard to find a booking agent. It's Catch-22 all over the place: they won't sign you until you're making this much money, and you can't make this much money without an agent going to bat for you. Clubs won't book you unless you can demonstrate a draw, and you can't build a following if you can't get booked. Wen I started touring in earnest in the summer of 1998, I had an advantage that was also a disadvantage: name recognition, but not as a musician. I was able to get gigs on a certain level because I'm a well-known Grateful Dead radio "deejay," but that didn't necessarily mean people would come out and spend money to hear me perform. I had no intention of going out there as a Grateful Dead cover act, and I winced every time I saw "Host of the Grateful Dead Hour" in the advertisements for the gigs: Why would anyone want to hear a dick jockey play and sing? My notoriety in that field brought me great good will among a segment of the Deadhead crowd, but it also brought derision from others who are intensely protective of their notion of what's appropriate in that world. Fortunately for me, the "cashing in" bullshit subsided pretty quickly; those who bothered to listen to what I was doing soon came to recognize that I have a voice and a story of my own.
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permalink #198 of 771: errant thoughts of redheaded mischief (izzie) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:50
permalink #198 of 771: errant thoughts of redheaded mischief (izzie) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:50
When I mention your music while out and about, and believe me, I do, I've learned to make sure there is a CD in my truck handy. I can say, yeah, David Gans the GD Hour guy, but then back it up with hey! here listen to this song by him.
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permalink #199 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:54
permalink #199 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:54
That's the way to do it. Thank you!
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permalink #200 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:54
permalink #200 of 771: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Jun 06 21:54
And now, a commercial interruption: Hello, friends - happy SUMMER!! I've got three Bay Area gigs this weekend, and I hit the road next week for my first festival of the season. The in-between gigs are still being confirmed; please see http://www.dgans.com/gigs.html for the latest. I'm in the middle of an online interview at http://www.well.com/inkwell - talking with Gary Burnett and other interlocutors about my adventures in the music bizniz, the mysteries of creativity, and various other subjects. You can contribute to the dialogue by sending email to inkwell@well.com There are some samples of my new recording work at http://www.dgans.com/private-tunes.html . The new CD will be called "Cloud Surfing"; I had hoped to have it ready in time for Grateful Fest, but these things take time, and it's better not to rush. I have been working with two brilliant sound designers - Jeremy Goody and Jim LeBrecht - and I'm just delighted with the work we've been doing. This month has been a tough one on a personal and professional level. My dear friend Tina Loney, who was the "best man" at my wedding and was my close friend and most trusted counselor for twenty years, lost her long battle with lung cancer on June 8. You'll find a picture of her and a few words at http://gdhour.com/logblog/?p=126 And before we lost Tina, on June 2, Vince Welnick took his own life. Vince was a member of The Tubes for 20 years and the Grateful Dead for five; in the decade following the end of the Dead, I had many opportunities to play music with him, each of which was a great pleasure and a learning experience to boot. I also worked with Vince on Might as Well: The Persuasions Sing Grateful Dead, which I co-produced with Jerry Lawson. Vince and Jerry hit it off during those sessions and remained friends from then on. You'll find a lot of music, and numerous tributes to Vince's soulful nature and musical brilliance, at http://logblog.gdhour.com I stayed home for most of the month of May in order to spend time with Tina, and I experienced a great burst of creative energy that I'm sure was fallout from the powerful emotions surrounding her passing and Vince's. The music I play this summer will reflect the energy that came through our lives through these experiences. -- Here's what I know about the summer as of now: * Friday, June 23, 7:30-9:30pm: With Mario DeSio and Jeff Pehrson at the Nomad Cafe, 6500 Shattuck Avenue, Oakland CA. No cover, but you have to buy some coffee and/or food * Saturday, June 24, 9:30 am to 1:30 pm: Grand Lake Farmers' Market, at Lake Park and Grand Avenues in Oakland CA (across from the Grand Lake Theater). Excellent produce (organic!), prepared foods, and crafts. Free! * Sunday, June 25: Far West Fest in Olema, California. Benefit for community radio station KWMR, with Alison Brown, The Mother Hips, Hot Buttered Rum, et al., plus local organic food and beverage, crafts, etc. I play an unamplified acoustic set at around 4:30l Aaron Redner of Hot Buttered Rum will sit in on fiddle. * Thursday, June 29: The Happy Dog, Cleveland OH. Details TBA * July 4 weekend: GratefulFest at Nelson Ledges Quarry Park, Garrettsville OH. Dark Star Ochestra, Hot Tuna, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Zen Tricksters, and more! DG plays Friday, Sunday, and Monday * Friday, July 14: Master Musicians Festival, Somerset KY. (Festival is July 14-15). Donna the Buffalo headlines Friday; others TBA * Saturday, July 15, 7:30 pm: DG opens for The Waybacks at The Dame, 156 W. Main Street, Lexington KY. $5. 859-)226-9005 * Wednesday, August 9, 7:00 pm: Songs to Fill the Air - A Tribute to Jerry Garcia. DG, Alligator, and the Chickenstand Throwdown Band. (DG plays at 8:40). Makor, 35 W 67th Street (between Columbus Ave & Central Park West), New York City. $15. 212-413-8809 * Thursday, August 10, 9-11pm EDT: DG appears on John Major's Railroad Earth Happy Hour (probably in the second hour) * Saturday, August 12, 8 pm: DG and the Shockenaw Mountain Boys (members of Railroad Earth) at the Fountain House, 439 Rt. 94 South, Newton NJ. 973-383-7976 * Fri-Sun, August 18-20: Gathering of the Vibes, Mariaville NY. DG plays Saturday, August 19 * September 22-24: Terrapin Hill Festival, Harrodsburg KY * October 19-22: MagnoliaFest, Live Oak FL. Donna the Buffalo, Sam Bush, New Riders of the Purple Sage, The Duhks, Peter Rowan & Tony Rice, many more! -- More dates will be added for July, August, and September. Stay tuned. More information, web links, etc., at http://www.dgans.com/gigs.html
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