Heard on the radio today some of the difficulties of managing donations when no one's in charge--OWS has received $400,000, mostly in $20s. They need a couple thousand a day for food and such. All expenditures must be approved up through committees and then by the ENTIRE GROUP. They just voted to send $20,000 to Occupy Oakland--which was probably a simpler, faster decision than to spend whatever they did on storage lockers for themselves. Plus there's the problem of who signs the check or the debit card in a leaderless community. As NPR said, "money wants a leader, it seems."
Great - Toss the money to Oakland and now Oakland has to decide how to spend that money through committee. I suspect Oakland will send $2k to Sacramento so they can share in the decision process on how to spend their windfall :-)
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permalink #78 of 92: Sharon Lynne Fisher (slf) Fri 28 Oct 11 22:22
permalink #78 of 92: Sharon Lynne Fisher (slf) Fri 28 Oct 11 22:22
#71: the police brutality videos they didn't remove are unrelated to Oakland.
Last night there was an interesting poignant moment at Occupy SF general assembly. just a few blocks from work here. One man was reporting on the thousands of dollars in expenditures needed to keep porta-potties being emptied and a health-department compliant kitchen cooking for the encampment. The porta=potty saga was complex and expensive. He was saying "the Health Department will fine us X hundred per day if we do not comply." A pale man with a black and white print bandana covering his face, standing at the back of the gathering, asked "Who exactly is 'us'?" He was greeted with perplexed looks. I almost laughed as I thought about his bold implication of OWSsf being un-finable. He rephrased it to something like, "Just who would they attempt to fine?" The calm, tired man who had been giving the report said, "They will fine whoever ordered the porta-potties. I believe that it the Unitarians, and Answer, and Occupy SF on the contract, at this point." The masked character said nothing. The meeting continued. To me it was a marvelous moment of Inspired Idealist Activist meets Reality-Based Pragmatic volunteer. These are the moments where what can change now and how things work are made visible. I was amused at how I almost went for the anonymous fantasy that Occupy is 99% of us and thus can't be fined... and how obvious it was that that is not the case. (Black-bandana man, are you learning as you go? We have no way to know.) Hooray for those who are raising money for the toilet cleaning, kitchen plumbing and other non-glamorous services. Thanks for taking responsibility, providing the platform for the gathering.
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permalink #80 of 92: brighter clouds ahead (noebie) Tue 15 Nov 11 07:28
permalink #80 of 92: brighter clouds ahead (noebie) Tue 15 Nov 11 07:28
nypd raids liberty plaza - judge issues restraining order to allow occupiers to return http://noebie.net/nypd-raids-occupy-wall-street/ prior to the raid, the nyc general assembly posted on their site "you can't evict an idea whose time has come" http://occupywallst.org/article/you-cant-evict-idea-whose-time-has-come/
Live stream here: http://www.ustream.tv/TheOther99
Over the past 2 days the Davis pepperspray video has been a sensation everywhere. The tv news even showed the spraying into the faces of seated protesters. You have probably seen it by now. The video that shows the non-violent reaction of the student crowd is longer, but remarkably moving and revealing. It's a don't miss, and to get the full effect watch the whole thing unfold. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WmJmmnMkuEM In the course of looking at that and telling a few people about it, I was pointed to an older video, about police provocateurs in Canada using "Black Bloc" costumes to attempt to provoke a riot. It shows one example of something we all know happens. It also underscores the importance of citizen video witness, and of using the web to do detective work and ask the right questions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqiba2m4mbw
Very disturbing to watch that. What is more disturbing is the amount of high tech weapons and equipment they have. I bet 2 things: they treat them like toys and the feds funded the distribution to local police.
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permalink #84 of 92: Peter Richardson (richardsonpete) Mon 21 Nov 11 07:53
permalink #84 of 92: Peter Richardson (richardsonpete) Mon 21 Nov 11 07:53
Yes, disturbing. But I highly recommend this footage showing the UC Davis prez walking to her car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8775ZmNGFY8. Powerful response by students.
I don't know if it's still the case, but there used to be all sorts of federal grants for local law enforcement to "up armor" their departments, develop SWAT teams, etc. The joke at the time being "even the Berkeley Library Police have a SWAT team!"
Book him, Danno!
This is what the War on Terror has really been preparing for.
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permalink #88 of 92: We're carrot people. (unkljohn) Mon 21 Nov 11 13:48
permalink #88 of 92: We're carrot people. (unkljohn) Mon 21 Nov 11 13:48
Exactly.
So far it's been about as effective as putting out a fire with gasoline.
Puts the trainees in a bit of a dilemma. They may have thought they were prepared for "The Other," but what about neighborhood kids and grandparents?
How many cops does UC Davis need? That video showed a pretty big contingent.
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permalink #92 of 92: those Andropovian bongs (rik) Tue 22 Nov 11 13:42
permalink #92 of 92: those Andropovian bongs (rik) Tue 22 Nov 11 13:42
I believe that those were both campus and city cops.
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