And Patrick, how does a creative understand "integrity" and how is that reflected in your work(s)?
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permalink #27 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Thu 7 Dec 17 01:49
permalink #27 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Thu 7 Dec 17 01:49
Integrity in the context of non-humans, transhumans and post-humans deals with having strong ethical principles that are aimed at advancing future society. That is why I write a lot about moving beyond a human centric society only and the need to curb dominance by any "species". In this next phase, it will be more about human integrity developing AI for societal advancement rather than destruction. I noted a number of the future challenges for AI in an earlier comment, but probably the most critical in terms of integrity lies within Gilbert Ryle's "ghost in the machine" theory and the parallel, harmonized advancement of AI software and hardware, say robotics. Programmed AI is one thing, self-generating AI in this context is very different. There is much talk currently about creating ethics committees and innovation safety and the well-conceived Stanford report One Hundred Year Study on Artificial Intelligence that reviews the impact of AI on culture and society in five-year timespans, defining some of the more crucial challenges, pathways to innovation and likely changes. These primarily deal with human integrity. In order to survive, self-generating AI will need to develop its own reasoning about integrity in order to optimize its own existence. We can quite possibly learn something on this by studying the role of integrity in the development of AlphaGo Zero or its previous iterations. Did the AI learn to play the game fairly and honestly, even though it self-generated moves that we had never seen before and astonished champion human players. As far as I know those moves were neither dishonest nor disqualifiable. The same goes for robot soccer, which we presented at Plutopia 2012 during SXSW. It would be interesting to take the debate on the importance or otherwise of emotional intelligence to advanced human integrity into the non-human, transhuman arena. If as I mentioned in my earlier response, AI and its configurations achieved consciousness and emotional-cognitive abilities, then aspects such as the role of emotion perception, emotion understanding, and emotion regulation facets will be critical for explaining AI performance. Here I am considering both optimized efficiency and performative faculties. IoT for example will have embedded performative capabilities early on if its various renditions are credible and useful in terms of situation awareness and response. Emotion perception precedes emotion understanding as a causal sequence and in my view, will be critical to optimized functioning of situation-aware IoT. Consequently, non-human in terms of AI and its subsets may need to self-develop emotional and advanced cognitive faculties before it can really prove to have integrity, but I believe that its understanding of the need for survival will make that happen. Back in the late 90s I watched a fight between a scientific robot developed by the Leuven University in Belgium and a robot developed by Mark Paulines SRL. It took place in Brussels and I covered it for Fringecore at the time. It was a fight for survival, not in terms of blowing up machines which was Marks speciality, but fighting to see which could get to an energy source first. The scientific robot won, simply because it had higher level of intelligence and outwitted Marks robot.
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permalink #28 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Thu 7 Dec 17 02:04
permalink #28 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Thu 7 Dec 17 02:04
It seems a little disassociative to be writing about non-human integrity at this juncture, when the whole world is facing a massive issue around human integrity. This World Economic Forum piece makes the same point. https://www.weforum.org/projects/paci-the-future-of-trust-and-integrity.
That was my point, exactly...great pointer
Emotional intelligence!! Now, that's a new spin, to me. That is something the others don't have, and probably never will...singularity to the side please :) EI is all about 'wise mind'....and that, indeed could be a bridge. Nice.
From Patrick Lichty (voyd.com) Human, Trans-Human, Non-Human integrity. Great stuff. But when thinking about this, I see two (out of an infinitude of possible) models between Badiouxian and Mortonian non-humanism; such as the inclusion of non-human actors (things) and the inclusion of hyperobjects (like humanity as an object) and all creatures. In Dereks discussion, I feel like the conversation is pointing toward human-derivates and posthuman AI in terms of soft- and hardware AI when we are talking about trans and non-humans. I would like to stress the necessity to address this in lateral as well as vertical terms, as Cetaceans are certainly more advanced than we are in many ways, and the common housecat meows to us as a language construct they dont meow to each other We just think were so hot because of our suits and opposable thumbs. In this way, I enjoy Bruce Sterlings Schismatrix Plus views of nonhumanity, such as in the story Swarm that suggests that unbound intelligence (organic or artificial) is unsustainable, and I look at this as a Malthusian critique. A closed system has limits, and a closed system that runs beyond its capacity can do so for a while. In this age, the world is ruled by capitalist forces, and these rule the world that are much like the forces of nature speech in the classic movie, Network. To quote. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no west. There is only one holistic system of systems. One vast and immense, Interwoven, Interacting, Multi-varied, Multinational dominion of dollars. Petro dollars. Electro dollars. Muti-dollars. Reichmarks. Rens. Rubles, Pounds and Shekels. It is the international system of currency, Which determine the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic, And galactic structure of things today. Being in the UAE, this is obvious. Dirhams override fatwas pretty fast. But in my own business on many fronts as a futurist and developer as well as a teacher, even my knowledge production is deeply shaped by market forces. But I would like to propose two markets and the artists place in it. First is the global neoliberal market of conventional markets of commodity, security, and exchange, and as such we are concerned ostensibly with the use of technology in terms of innovation which is centered around the creation of value, welfare, and profit. But these are human values, and Im as interested in my colleagues notion of non-human value, and I call this the baseline market. In my conception, this would possibly denote the overall ecological welfare to its ability to maintain production capacity. And again, we are in a Malthusian situation, with debts building, with it being OK, as long as profits outrun the load, with populations building, with infrastructure holding up to stay ahead. Eventually, these will run out, and perhaps AI will show us the way to homeostasis before we burn ourselves out. And from this, I feel the wise person will watch the second market, the market of ecological sustainability, much more than the short-term market of conventional markets. How does VR, AR, MR and AI figure in this? I feel that they can be made to simulate environments that will take us to distant lands to help us know one another, critically engage issues of our humanity, and inspire us to work out worlds we could not imagine. But I also fear that they may further abstract us from the world that we live in, as it is a strict truism that humanity sees as normative what they see around them. I know for a fact that if you have not lived in the UAE or the Arabic countries as a whole for any period of time, the realities here are so different from what youd imagine. Im about to go to Central Asia for a tour; I imagine my mind will be blown there. The world is deeply heterogenous, and this is a joy to explore, but a huge challenge to work out. How do I see artists working these challenges? Inspiration, speculation, simulation on the global condition, and not just human. Can we begin to imagine talking with dolphins before talking with aliens? Can we have games that have giant plastic-sucking seamachines that create floating cities? Can I go to the greatest rainforests I can ever imagine and just meditate if I cannot afford to really go there? For the time being, I see so many in the media arts, and especially in a realm called postinternet, reveling in their current success and engaging in the lockstep machinery of the artworld economic ecosystem of galleries, artists, curators, collectors. Im more interested in projects like Mary Mattinglys Swale floating farm that asks about localizing urban food sources. Could we have something as fun as Cooking Mama but with a better message? Can we have media that address the second market? Can we have human/AI partnerships to aid our imaginative thinking (again, going back to Adobe Sensei). In many ways, I feel that futurist media (AR/MR/VR) often shows presentist scenarios, and we need to stop that. Give a starving person a menu and theyll order a cheeseburger. No. remove the cheeseburger from the menu, and have the baseline be the Curried Shawarma Curry Fries. Maybe AI can make those suggestions or even make the menu. We live in fantastic times. We need to be thinking laterally, and if we have to think about profit as the bottom line, then think of the second market and ecological sustenance as the goal of sustainability, not a 0% growth.
This, from Patrick is interesting: > In many ways, I feel that futurist media (AR/MR/VR) often shows > "presentist" scenarios, and we need to stop that. 'We need to stop that' -- and do what instead? By what criteria can make such a judgement?
#28...yes, that was quite a turn Derek....I have been thinking about this for two days....And then Patrick chimes in with even more perspectives I have never considered. I think of this as "flipping". Had not considered turning it all around. Current efforts are based on the human as the starting point, with all of digital, AI, VR/MR/AR as "tools". We well may be the first species at the top of their food chain to have created their own predator!! That's one "possible future". But, as you both say, there are plenty of others....cetaceans, Charlie Stross' sentient lobsters, etc. etc. The 'pivot' is that since all these 'non-humans' are now a part of our universe, "how do we adapt to THEM"? Recognizing that, IF, an AI ever satisfies the Turning Test, how do we help it gain its own rules of ethics, both for its own kind and for us??? And, apart from that possibility, we are presently committed to a universe dictated by AI, robots, IOT, etc. How does that change us?? Well, we are certainly a long, long way from what most people think of as VR/MR/AR....which is mostly games and porn... But this is all on the money.
Jaron's take on all this, and I imagine you both agree, is that it is 'early days' and we have had a chance to see the consequences of our biases and alogorithms and poor approaches....so there is reason to be hopeful for the future. Of course, Gaia may have something else to say about all this. Put AI's on ships to Mars, ASAP!!!
This is our last 'official' day for this conversation....we will continue responding to any questions or comments folks may have as long as there is activity. My profound thanks to both Derek and Patrick....there is so much meat on the bones of this conversation..I cannot thank you enough for you thoughtful posts and responses. You have truly covered the waterfront of the VR/MR/AR digital futures and technology from just about every angle and perspective. Rich, rich, rich. I will be going over this conversation for months :) Wishing you both all the best, all the power and every success in all your endeavors.
If you both would do me one favor, please... Given the current climate of tech, what do you see for the future of women and people of color in the years ahead?
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permalink #37 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 09:16
permalink #37 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 09:16
As you can imagine I loved the fact that Patrick used Bruce's Swarm and the reference to "unbound intelligence". My entire existence is built on that premise and quite regularly on "unbound experimentation" to boot. I'll let Patrick respond in full to Craig's question to him about the criteria we should use to judge whether there is a tendency to adapt a presentist perspective. However, I would like to say that I agree with Patrick and I would like to chime in on the criteria part. Firstly, I would like to refer you to a piece that Max More wrote back in 2001 which has a number of ways of comparing and evaluating the robustness of scenarios. http://www.kurzweilai.net/grasping-the-future-comparing-scenarios-to-other-tec hniques Secondly, I would like to set out some of the criteria we use to evaluate futures development, although quite honestly, I spend a greater amount of time on creating them. Before we work on scenarios, we have complex processes that create future leverage points, future drivers or triggers, future platforms and much more, all of which are evaluated using future-focused criteria and a variety of exploration approaches beyond horizon scanning, weak signals and pattern recognition. These include mapping the points of perception-decision, the space in between the matrix (see my explanation below), possible vs feasible combinations and shifting from stagnant to dynamic knowledge. This allows us to create what Deleuze calls the Becoming - the flux of the becoming, namely, the passing of the present into the relevance and purpose of the future. In order to uncover this relevance and purpose we use approaches such as: causal layered analysis, concept mapping, opportunity mapping, future wheel, create 3D simulated worlds or landscapes and use amorphoscapes or a type of automata to establish random connections, which become our future triggers. To bring these to life, we use heavy dose of conjecture, hunches and thinking without thinking techniques. Gerd Gigerenzer's Gut Feelings: The Intelligence of the Unconscious; and Seth Godin has some great thoughts on the subject. Once we have oiled the future triggers, we build future platforms, which are both conceptional and directional. Here we use flexible, but indicative criteria for platform assessment. They need to: - Implicate, not replicate - Integrate disparate areas - De- and re-territorialize the overarching domain - Generate higher order properties - See the platform as an overarching event not single acts - Work in dimensions not units - Are boundless, nomadic, mobile - Liberate and are non-hierarchical - Go beyond human-centric Once the platforms are created we will generally develop two to three scenarios for each platform. While our scenario development processes include a lot of modeling, we apply rhizomatic thinking and of course, my "think like a DJ techniques". TLADJ embodies an approach that demands a robust and comprehensive deconstruction of the platform and all of its assets and to use creativity to reconstruct it with a novel and revolutionary outcome. The process involves taking each of the assets and following a pathway of development which includes actions such as: Deconstruct Mutate Spin Transform Migrate Displace Simulate Fuse Translate Recombine The concepts that flow from this process are subjected to further manipulation, which involves: Subverting assumptions Peeling away the surface experience the outcome as an adventure Revisiting values and signifiers Determining aspects of fracture, critical impact points and disruption Reconstructing the dystopian reality, paradoxes, hybrids Changing perspective and conceptual relevance Adding events and potential wildcards These answer questions such as: What are the hidden worlds in the concept? What do we not see that would change the perspective of the concept? What would happen if we turned the idea on its head or reversed the focus? What could you connect to the idea to make it a high performance hybrid or create a paradox? Scenarios are required to have: directional balance, leverage key triggers, provide a new paradigm or competitive set, deliver a significant contribution to societal progress, uncover potential tipping points and identify critical opportunities. Evaluating scenarios beyond their obvious practical qualities such as level of risk and opportunity, fit, feasibility, flexibility, etc. requires a set of emotional criteria as well. These include: Relevance Level of affect Empathy Desirability Credibility Saliency Enthusiasm The scenario must be action-driven. Sorry about the lecture on the science of foresight, but I wanted to point out that when today we talk about VR, AR, simulation and the like, I feel we are only at the point of considering the low hanging fruit rather than discovering new paradigms and worldviews that would make these technologies truly meaningful to our future. I know we are using VR in medicine, etc, but let's not think of how it can do what we already do and know better, quicker and easier, simply more efficiently. What we should be looking at is what could these technologies do that we have never thought of, even beyond current SciFi.
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permalink #38 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 09:17
permalink #38 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 09:17
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#38 was a duplicate of #37
< What we should be looking at is what could these technologies do that we have never thought of, even beyond current SciFi. > Most excellent focus Derek....you can expand away on anything you like...
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permalink #41 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 10:08
permalink #41 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 10:08
This should have been my #38. It refers to a section in #37. My point on the space between the matrix refers to Slavoj Zizeks piece From Physics to Design (The Parallax View p.237) in which he deals with Daniel Dennetts polemic about the human mind having a central point of perception-decision at which all information is gathered, appreciated and then turned into action. Zizek points out that evolution (of ideas) take place in the space between the vast synchronous external logical matrix of all possible combinations and the vanishing opportunity space of feasible combinations, which are actually accessible or workable. So we have that gap between the eternal logical combination and us being constrained to a particular contingent situation. I would add here that we need to unshackle these thinking constraints in order to arrive at paradigm shifts at the point where we are looking to re-conceptualize concepts such as learning and education. Zizek also questions Dennetts dualistic ontology around the from physics to design, namely the two basic levels of reality are the deterministic physical level and the higher design level. While Zizek explains through Dennetts two-dimensional grid of pixels, I relate this dualism to our grids in the Knowledge Bank, where the data close up is stagnant or motionless with each piece of data going on and off as we read and absorb it. When that same data is considered as a universe with no grid or frames, we see that some data act like flashers or alternatively form small patterns or configurations while others flow like gliders swimming across the plane until they converge or unite with other data or become eaters that swallow up those lines that have no real influence.
Thank you, Derek, for that impressive list of techniques. > What we should be looking at is what could these > technologies do that we have never thought of, even beyond current > SciFi. Yes, and how can we do this in a way that makes sense to the 'presentist perspective,' which so often is in charge of the resources needed to unlease new technologies? There's a gap.
Good point Craig...that's where the current corporate money is and they have demonstrated a la Ted Nelson, and so many others how they deal with that kind of thinking. We need Angels and Start Ups that can use venture capital for this. Before quarterly reports rule the day.
We don't just write them off, there has to be conversaton and hopefully some enlightenment, after all they did not initially get into all this for the money, they just got successful and are now driven by it.
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permalink #45 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 20:59
permalink #45 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 20:59
Well, thankfully in AI for example we are seeing companies like Austin's own Data.World and also SingularityNet creating for AI expert collaboration outside of the corporate structure. We should remember that there is always an alternative marketplace out there that is slowly raising the stakes. The economy is more of a spiral than aa circle. What remained from the inevitable dotcom bust are the likes of Amazon, Expedia and Google - real market changers. The next wave was social media, connectivity, convergence, which gave us youtube and FB and so much more and the revamping of the music and other industries. It is too easy to forget just how much of our lives and services are provided to us for free or virtually free, even without piracy. While it is easy to spot the substitute or parallel industries like the Ubers and bitcoin, we should be paying more attention to the new industries such as 3D Printing, biochem, nanotech, smart dust and programmable matter that have popped-up as they illustrate what we should expect in the future. The Gartner Hype Cycle is always a useful insight. We should also remember the rise and power of the non-employee, which is already around 40% of the workforce and projected to grow to 70% by 2030 and the changing labor structure. These emerging industries often call for adaptive enterprises that often inspire completely new, non-corporate, market-changing entities. Of course that is my job to develop new marketplaces, new industries, new products, new models and many of the techniques I explained in my earlier piece are ways of approaching that task, along with the innovation hubs, venture capitalists, universities, geniuses and Joe Blow. Yes, corporations still rule, with 6% of companies (28 leading corporations) making over 50% of US profits.There are a number of newer compnies and industries in thaat group, namely Apple, Gilead, Intel, Cisco... Yes, they have the most influence on policy, etc. but the non-corporate share of the marketplace is nearly 20% currently and growing. This 2013 article below demonstrates the possibilities. https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/business-model-innovation-e-c houpal-onemorepallet-sirum-alternative-marketplaces
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permalink #46 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 21:33
permalink #46 of 49: Derek Woodgate (woodgate) Mon 11 Dec 17 21:33
Ted, your final question kept me awake at night and also Helga as it provoke a 4 am conversation about the future for women and people of color. Firstly, I am colorblind except for blue and red (politically), and gender neutral. I came to the conclusion that there are two primary drivers for the future, 1) The evolution away from the stereotype to the individual (although we still seem to be primarily, instinctively driven by our genetic family and sense of survival). 2) Future jobs and the roles that both cohorts (if there is to be a generalization, which I don't believe should be the case) could play. As far as the former is concerned, the shift in concepts, identities and archetypes such as social, friend, mother, etc. driven by our digital lives, together with globalization, greater migration, decrease in marriage and the desire to reproduce is changing our awareness, acceptance and integration of diversity. As far as the latter is concerned, as I wrote earlier on in this discussion we are faced with the need for new skills that we were not taught previously and which are critical to society's future development. These include a number of soft skills and different thinking approaches which will require different approaches by everyone irrespective of their gender, race, circumstances, etc. The most critical aspect is that we recognize the evil in neoliberalism and the horrifying effects it has in creating the massive differences between the haves and have nots - in particular the top 5% and the rest of us, not to mention the 46 million US citizens that live below the official poverty level, whatever their cohort. To continue to allow a third world in the USA is a tragedy and inhuman. I can only hope and personally try to make the future technologies and social and cultural change agents and economic and political influences fundamentally change the situation for the better. That is my non-academic conclusion, from the gut.
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permalink #47 of 49: Patrick Lichty (woodgate) Tue 12 Dec 17 06:03
permalink #47 of 49: Patrick Lichty (woodgate) Tue 12 Dec 17 06:03
To hit some of the high points, the idea of Presentism. I think in this way, Derek and I overlap in the future-forward, blue-sky mentality. I remember talking with Connie Yowell, who was head of digital initiatives for the MacArthur Foundation when I was pushing the edges of virtual worlds in the mid 2000s, and she turned me on to the notion of orienteering. Her idea here is that when you confront someone with a new sort of space, they reconstruct the familiar. Her point was that when Second Life was popular, the first thing people wanted to do is reconstruct themselves as realistically as possible and put themselves in an analogue of their living room. While perhaps interesting on the surface, my analogy is that when you give someone a menu, they often order the familiar, like vanilla ice cream. Dont get me wrong; I love the stuff. Really. My mom used to buy Breyers that had three kinds Bali, Tahiti, and Malaysian(?) vanilla, and it was fun to see that each tasted different. This is a bad analogy, but I dont want to have that sort of zen experience in virtual worlds. In graduate school, I found my favorite trick localizing gravity to whatever I was standing on the old Fred Astaire thing. This is what I want to do in the Realities things I would never do normally, or could not. This is maybe also a tie to that Bogost, Thacker, and more of the Speculative Realists discuss when talking about Alien Phenomenologies/Ontologies. I especially enjoy Thackers investigation of H.R. Lovecrafts horror of that which is beyond thought as a metaphor for the function of philosophy exploring the unthought. This is what I enjoyed in Beverly Mills Not Possible in Real Life missives exploring virtual worlds, if not in content, in thought. This is especially potent thought in the Realities. This is what we do as futurists when we wrestle with unbounded enthusiasm while being hemmed in by Malthusian constraints. We seek what is not possible in real life and make it real this is the speculative near future design paradigm of Sterling, Tesanovic, Iaconesi, and Persico, and others. Thinking the unthought; making the unmade; this is the work of the inventor and innovator (innovation being an incremental improvement, Invention being the disruptive entry of new ideas.) AR/VR/MR greases the wheels of this thought as physics, materials, etc are not an issue anymore. I would love to dig in deeper but am under time constraints that it is finals week here in the UAE and I am developing a HoloLens experience for the Echo Dubai Festival. Id like to address Craigs question about gender and color. First I find the framing of this question to be mainly North American, and then also First World. Where I am, most women are of color, and Indians constitute much of our technical class. Before talking about this, let me address the First World. I think that in the Realities, there is a more welcoming community, as there are groups like the Virtual Worlds Society and the many Women in VR groups which are large and significant. Also, there are powerful women such as Resh Sidhu, Mez Breeze, Jacki Morie, and Brenda Laurel in the Reality ecosphere who shape the culture of that genre. Id like to mention that few tech genres have enough female mavens to mention off the top of ones head. I feel that in the Reality Media industries, women, gender, and color are more included than other tech sectors, and perhaps it comes from the great female pioneers in this field. In regards to the UAE, the design industry is nascent and booming here. For reference, all I teach are Emirati women in AR/VR design, which is something in itself. In this country, many governmental officials are women, and there is an estimate of 60-75% of all college graduates being female among Emiratis, and there is not a Design school on our Mens Campus (we are segregated) I cannot say this is uniform across the MENA region, and there are decided gaps in technical (i.e. programming) skills among the female population. However, the economy rules here, and its obvious that female designers make money, and expertise is essential for the post Peak Oil MENA region. I think that youll be surprised as the complexity of our society here in West Asia, and that we are a coming force in the global media landscape (We have an emerging Ubisoft studio here, for one ) Thanks so much for the chance to talk, and for Derek being such an amzing conversational partner. Shukran, and Walaikum alssalam Patrick
Thanks from here too. The slow turns of this discussion have been interesting. So much to work on in each post. In fast, I'm still chewing on Derek's <41>... I'll reply here a bit more if that's ok. Must say I'm bit surprized at Zizek's use of the word "dualistic" when refering the simple ontology Dennett invokes while discussing Conway's game of Life. (Dennett is, I think, steadfastly a non-dualist) Is Zizek playing with Dennett here (or is this an artifact of translation)?
Great finish...wonderful stuff everyone...Craig, thank you for your participation...Derek and Patrick, maybe next year?? Love to catch up on both your futures :) Next up, State of the World, with our own beloved Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky...WOOT!
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