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permalink #26 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 04:54
permalink #26 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 04:54
Digital Trust, article in HBR:(https://hbr.org/2018/02/the-4-dimensions-of-digital-trust-charted-across-42-co untries) Trust-building is not only central to our digital future, it is also complex and it costs money and resources to guarantee trust. Effectively building trust in a global digital marketplace requires a strategic choice of knowing where to play. You cant put equivalent investments in every market. Our framework offers an approach to figuring out where to prioritize and ensure profitable growth. Roger, Facebook has most definitely lost our trust in all of this mess. Can it be restored with the fixes you have in mind?
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permalink #27 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 06:12
permalink #27 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 06:12
Yesterday The Washington Post published an op-ed that I wrote about how to fix Facebook. The best way is to change the business model away from advertising. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-to-fix-facebook-make-users-pay-for -it/2018/02/20/a22d04d6-165f-11e8-b681-2d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.27287 48e5038
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permalink #28 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 06:21
permalink #28 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 06:21
Relative to fixing Facebook from the outside, my Washington Monthly essay concludes with a series of policy prescriptions: https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/january-february-march-2018/how-to-fix- facebook-before-it-fixes-us/ The best way to fix FB is from the inside. Beginning in October 2016, I spent three months privately trying to persuade Facebooks management that there were systemic flaws in the platform. At that time I had only a partial understanding I did not grok the perverse incentives of FBs advertising business model until Tristan Harris explained them in April 2016 but the rest of my analysis turned out to be right on. A different group of people or the same people at a different time might have taken the warning seriously. Sadly, they did not.
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permalink #29 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Feb 18 10:18
permalink #29 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Feb 18 10:18
What us a stack? New term to me.
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permalink #30 of 193: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 22 Feb 18 11:13
permalink #30 of 193: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 22 Feb 18 11:13
As used here, I think a stack is the computing hardware and software infrastructure that makes possible a global-scale computing enterprise.
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permalink #31 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 11:32
permalink #31 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 11:32
A Stack is a "walled garden" or what we call a "silo"... that limits your internet experience to only what the App or hardware seller allows. So, if you buy a Kindle you are stuck in Amazon world. If you buy an Apple product you are stuck in Apple world. ETC. Unless you jailbreak these devices or have some serious digital chops, you do not experience all of the internet....so, for instance, you cannot get the apps from Google Play on an Apple device...nor do you actually own any products you buy from Amazon's store - books, movies, etc. You merely have the right to view them on the approved Amazon apps and devices. The five 'Stacks' are Google, Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Microsoft...these 5 companies control almost all of American's experience on the Web....within all that, You Tube and Facebook, account for almost 50% of all internet usage in this country. The problems Roger is addressing with regards to Facebook are pandemic among all the Stacks...so this is a meta issue as well as being specific to Facebook... Trying to ungeek all this and put it into English....I first heard the term Stacks from our chief curmudgeon, (bruces) Bruce Sterling at a SXSW wrapup. Up until then these 5 companies were simply referred to as walled gardens or silos because they were inescapable. Hence, Android vs all the rest...Android devices give you access to the entire Web and do not throttle your experience like the Stacks do... http://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/social-media/
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permalink #32 of 193: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 22 Feb 18 12:30
permalink #32 of 193: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 22 Feb 18 12:30
The walls around those gardens are somewhat more porous than you suggest.
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permalink #33 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:08
permalink #33 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:08
To the question, "did Facebook know about the Russians?" Facebook is highly automated, but not in all respects. There are a lot of humans in the sales group and as this post from Reddit (from 6 months ago) indicates, some of them knew ... https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6zr5xg/purged_facebook_page_tied_to _the_kremlin_spread/dmxkbr5/ Facebook's culture combines elements of hacker and libertarian philosophy. They perceive that they have given the world a gift and we should all be grateful. They do not believe they are responsible for the downstream consequences of their actions ... and point to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act as a safe harbor from liability for the actions of third parties. While I think Zuck was genuinely shocked on Nov 9, 2016 that anyone would suggest FB might have influenced the outcome of the presidential election, that would not have been the case by July/August 2017 when Jonathan Albright published data indicating that Russian messages had been shared hundreds of the millions of times. From that point on, Facebook has delayed, deflected criticism, and dissembled. I do not believe they have done anything significant that would indicate that they are taking responsibility or working to undo the damage their platform has enabled.
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permalink #34 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:22
permalink #34 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:22
To Rip van Winkle: The key differences between FB (and Google) and prior generations of ad supported media ... * Personalization: FB and Google are surveillance companies who know more about their users than the government does. In FB's case, they are focused on emotions, because emotions are the key to engagement, sharing, and economic value. The preferred emotions are the ones in the lizard brain (e.g., fear, anger), the same emotions that led to the insight about "if it bleeds, it leads". Newspapers, TV, et al provide plenty of blood and sizzle, but in a one-size-fits-all broadcast model. Facebook has 2.1 billion Truman Shows ... each person lives in a bubble tuned to their emotions ... and FB pushes emotional buttons as needed. Once it identifies an issue that provokes your emotions, it works to get you into groups of like-minded people. Such filter bubbles intensify pre-existing beliefs, making them more rigid and extreme. In many cases, FB helps people get to a state where they are resistant to ideas that conflict with the pre-existing ones, even if the new ideas are demonstrably true. * Smartphones: prior forms of media were delivered on platforms that were generally usable only for limited periods. Newspapers and books because people would only read for a short time, TV was clunky, PCs were clunky, etc. Smartphones are on our person every waking moment. The question I ask is, "in the morning, do you pick up your phone before or after you pee?" When you combine personalization with smartphones, you have a package that leads to a more dangerous addiction than TV created. In the 60s, we all saw the JFK funeral, the Beatles, the Moon landing, Vietnam etc. Broadcast TV created a shared set of facts and brought us together. The cost was conformity, but the benefit to social cohesion was significant. Facebook's business improves in proportion to the level of polarization it can create. The people in the middle have little value, so FB looks for some angle to get people scared or angry. When FB was just on PCs, the harm it could do was limited. Smartphones really changed the game.
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permalink #35 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:30
permalink #35 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:30
re: Filter bubbles and brain hacking Once FB figures out your emotional triggers, the algorithms look for issues to provoke. The goal is to get you into groups that bring out your fear and anger. If they find issues you care about emotionally, they overweight that content in your feed, gradually creating a filter bubble that confirms your pre-existing biases. When the filter bubble is set, it appears that most people agree with you. For many people the filter bubbles are building things that demonstrably false. How many? Thanks to Fox News, far more people on the right than the left, but my sense is 25% to 33% of the overall population identifies with at least one issue that is demonstrably false ... perhaps 7-8% on the left and 18-25% on the right. These people are susceptible to brain hacking, which is when the platform or a bad actor exploits the filter bubble to implant a false idea in a way that the recipient believes the idea is their own. The works like a card trick where the magician tells you to "pick a card, any card". What you may not realize is that five moves previously the magician began setting you up so that you would pick a specific card. Facebook does this when they say, "users pick their friends, their groups, everything." In reality, FB gets to pick from one million or messages that would be suitable for each user at any moment in time. What they actually do is pick the 10 or 20 that maximize their revenue. You think you are picking the content, but you are not.
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permalink #36 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:33
permalink #36 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:33
To Howard Rheingold ... I agree. I wrote an op-ed yesterday for WaPo recommending that Facebook change its business model to subscriptions. That would align incentives with users and publishers ... and could actually be a better business. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-to-fix-facebook-make-users-pay-for -it/2018/02/20/a22d04d6-165f-11e8-b681-2d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.a192e b82d01f I am not holding my breath.
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permalink #37 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:35
permalink #37 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:35
to Gary Greenberg ... I agree. The issue here is that FB's business model has terrible incentives. It is predatory ... and in some cases parasitic.
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permalink #38 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:40
permalink #38 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:40
to Ted Newcomb and Virtual Sea Monkey ... I think the Stack model is highly porous. Unfortunately, Facebook and especially Google privatized the internet. Google's great insight was that because no one owned the internet, there was little economic incentive to create great tools. The open source community got us started, but did not address many legitimate needs of businesses and users. Google saw this and started creating convenient, easy to use, free alternatives for the top internet activities: - search - email - photos - maps - videos - productivity applications - etc. There is some evolutionary thing that causes humans to prefer convenience, even when they know there will be downstream harm. Google exploited that to privatize much of the activity on the internet, forcing content vendors onto its platform. Facebook privatized most of the rest. Unfortunately, consumers are cool with that.
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permalink #39 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:41
permalink #39 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 22 Feb 18 17:41
Irrelevant trivia ... I am loading the CDs of the December Dead & Co tour into iTunes as I write these replies ...
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permalink #40 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Feb 18 18:02
permalink #40 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Thu 22 Feb 18 18:02
(12/2 in Austin is the one for me!)
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permalink #41 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 18:41
permalink #41 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 18:41
Ooh, ooh, make a playlist and share with us Roger, puhleez
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permalink #42 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 19:01
permalink #42 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 19:01
<38> Yup, I agree. Please excuse my rant, this just pushes all my buttons. I will try to be quiet for a while. I jail broke my Kindle 7 in a matter of minutes...had Google Play and downloaded every app my little heart desired on my mega sd card....with the exception of a couple of things that Amazon has not updated for, as it does not use standard Android software, I pretty much have everything I would on a $600 Samsung... Sideloaded all my movies and then put them back up on Amazon's cloud...now they ARE mine...so there Amazon, razzzberries to you...I paid the same amount at your store that I would have at Target, so don't tell me I don't own it... Similar with my Windows 10 PC...put Ubuntu on it immediately, got developer privileges and insider tracking and helped code Azure with Linux...die DOS, Windows 3.0 and all the rest of that Borg sandwich no one understands and 8 year olds can hack... You raise the more important point...whether or not you jailbreak your toys or not...the Big 5 control way too much, know too much, and ship most of it to NSA every midnight. And they answer to no one. So much for privacy and Net neutrality...those days are long gone....and, frankly, I don't much care... As you make patently clear in your posts, FB is entirely culpable...they knew, they know, they manipulate data for profit...that is their model....Google knows so much it is scary, and they don't even share their code any more....So, it's war, game on, yada, yada....that would be the War Cry down under in the Dark Web....But what's new...we've known that since the 60's...same as it ever was...As Leonard sang, Everybody knows...Burning down the House, same as it ever was...nothing new, nothing to see, move along now... All I would like is the ownership of MY data, with all my zero posts accounted for in the Blockchain, Holochain, Tangle, Borg, or whatever...and I'll ship it all myself... I'm not jaded, I'm 70 years old and realistic...and, in spite of everything, optimistic....These kids in Florida are only the tip of the Alpha iceberg...I see it with my 8 and 12 year old grandchildren and their friends as well....they seamlessly integrate this tech - one foot in the world, and one foot in cyberspace, and their head does not seem to have any problems with either/or/and both...so, I will fan their flames, while marching on Washington :)
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permalink #43 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 19:40
permalink #43 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 22 Feb 18 19:40
And then there is this bit of cheeriness: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610253/the-ganfather-the-man-whos-given-mac hines-the-gift-of-imagination/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_co ntent=2018-02-22&utm_campaign=Technology+Review "There is a darker side, however. A machine designed to create realistic fakes is a perfect weapon for purveyors of fake news who want to influence everything from stock prices to elections. AI tools are already being used to put pictures of other peoples faces on the bodies of porn stars and put words in the mouths of politicians. GANs didnt create this problem, but theyll make it worse. Hany Farid, who studies digital forensics at Dartmouth College, is working on better ways to spot fake videos, such as detecting slight changes in the color of faces caused by inhaling and exhaling that GANs find hard to mimic precisely. But he warns that GANs will adapt in turn. Were fundamentally in a weak position, says Farid."
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permalink #44 of 193: Andrew Trott (druid) Fri 23 Feb 18 08:13
permalink #44 of 193: Andrew Trott (druid) Fri 23 Feb 18 08:13
I've been mulling over Roger's basic premise and I wonder how he would evaluate this distillation of it: What Facebook does (and perhaps other stacks as well?) is sort users into like-minded tribes. I would then add the argument that tribalism is antithetical not only to an open pluralistic society but, in our world, to human survival. This has me thinking once again that I need to stop voting for Facebook with my time and content. I have even announced my departure there, at least once, only to return. It's addictive, that emotional bait-and-reinforce model. I wonder if Roger, or other participants, have any suggestions on where else one might go -- in addition, of course, to the Well. I've had my eye on Diaspora for years.
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permalink #45 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:32
permalink #45 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:32
Irrelevant trivia ... I am loading the CDs of the December Dead & Co tour into iTunes as I write these replies ...
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permalink #46 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:34
permalink #46 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:34
(you said that already!)
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permalink #47 of 193: Andrew Trott (druid) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:41
permalink #47 of 193: Andrew Trott (druid) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:41
The more I think about this the more I wonder if the bubble/tribal phenomenon isn't inherent to online communities of all kinds -- raising the question whether the pay model would make all that much difference. The Well is a paid subscription system, with none of FB's incentives and yet there's plenty of evidence of bubblification (!) in our history. The fact is that like-minded people tend to cluster together when it's easy to do, and in cyberspace it's real easy.
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permalink #48 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:41
permalink #48 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Fri 23 Feb 18 11:41
To Andrew Trott ... I think your tribe metaphor is valid, but with a twist. They use their data set to identify potential tribe members, invite them into various groups, then use filter bubbles to deepen attachment (and polarization). In that sense, the process is more like a cult than a tribe.
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permalink #49 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Fri 23 Feb 18 12:04
permalink #49 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Fri 23 Feb 18 12:04
One aspect of this problem that terrifies me is the decline of facts relative to opinions: anything I believe is a fact; anything that you believe (which differs from my "fact") is an opinion. Democracy depends on having some shared beliefs. Shared beliefs enable people to disagree without being guilty of bad faith. Compromise is possible for the same reason. Disagreement and compromise are building blocks of democracy. The polarization in society is so extreme today that even people who share the same values sometimes cannot compromise. This happened between Sanders and Clinton voters during the 2016 primary. The Russians used Facebook to magnify the disagreements between Sanders and Clinton supporters, effectively making the gap unbridgeable for many Sanders voters. Compromise is difficult, especially on issues of substance and values, but I don't know how democracies can work without them. Another way to think about this: if we want to change the balance of power in Washington, we are going to have to accept a coalition that includes people who disagree with us on some issues. I call this the "Joe Manchin Problem." Manchin votes like a Republican on a few issues, but it turns out he has been a loyal Dem on a wide range of issues that really matter, such as ACA. I used to think he was a bum, but I would rather have a Senate vote in WV in favor of good health care than a Republican who votes wrong on everything.
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permalink #50 of 193: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Fri 23 Feb 18 13:09
permalink #50 of 193: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Fri 23 Feb 18 13:09
More important than shared facts is a shared understanding about how we decide what's a fact and what's not. I read the phrase "tribal epistemology" in a Facebook post a couple of months ago and adopted it as a better summary of this problem than I'd been using.
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