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permalink #226 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 13 Jan 23 03:01
permalink #226 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 13 Jan 23 03:01
Islamic terror, very cruel and bloody, lots of it all over the map, nobody cares much. They could knock down signature buildings now, nobody's gonna go out in a candle-lit vigil. "Thoughts and prayers" for a week, maybe. They can do their worst, so what. Europe: quietly committee-working its way toward a continental military-industrial empire. They have the ulcer of Britain and the bloody wound of Ukraine to motivate them. It's interesting to hang out in a place like Ibiza and watch European infrastructure money literally buckling the pavements and piling up huge modern sewer pipes. They do bicker in Europe, but they bicker much less when they're angry. Also, every Eurocrat agenda is jam-packed and all the top guys -- a lot of them women -- are ceaselessly talking deliverables. They're not whiling away their languid hours with language-correctness quibbles. Birth rates might even go up. If that somehow happened I'd sit up straight in my chair about Europe.
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permalink #227 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 13 Jan 23 03:02
permalink #227 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 13 Jan 23 03:02
Big Tech, in financial and technical decline across the board. "Detroit syndrome." It's hard to arouse raw enthusiasm for anything "digital," because that high-concept is passe, it's become like "electric," "atomic," "automatic" or "space age." I'm a very "cyber" guy personally and I truly enjoy the industry's antics, but I always knew there would be a day when "cyber" became cranky and old-fashioned tech -- especially when adults came on to the scene who had never known anything else. Generative AI is quite interesting technically, it's probably less of a big-deal than its zealots imagine. Also, "digital" has been over-extended into areas that are probably counter-productive -- for instance, if Facebook ceased to exist, no one would mourn it. Alexa leaves the home, nobody notices. These examples could be multiplied. This is the course of history, there's not a lot of point in weeping in the WELL 'Lectronic beer about this. Something else will turn up. I don't know what it is yet, but, "when you can't imagine how things will change, things change in ways that are unimaginable." I'm old enough now that, in retrospect, I can understand that most of the things that really pleased me were things that I didn't imagine and I couldn't foresee. You don't need to be anxious about the inherent uncertainty of life; the future is unwritten, trend isn't destiny. You need a certain open-field looseness in the spine-ankles-and-kneecaps there. It's how to live. It's fun, even.
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permalink #228 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 13 Jan 23 03:04
permalink #228 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 13 Jan 23 03:04
In summary, 02023 will be much like '20, '21, '22 and '23. 02024, will also probably be much like this year. It's like a signature period flavor of elderly stodginess with material disaster and poorly-handled emergency. Somewhere on the far side of this is a quite strange society, without a "Republican Establishment," without consumerism, shopping malls, maybe without a middle class or a rule of law, very little regard for Judaeo-Christian ethics or organized churches, indifferent to sobriety and to prurient sex scandal -- much beset with environmental ruination, but not at all *dead,* just really messy, strange and different. I'm not an enthusiast or booster for it, I can just kinda smell it. It's not here yet, though. In retrospect this period will be understood as an Indian summer of the old world, a winter that didn't know it was a transformative winter because it felt too warm.
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permalink #229 of 338: @jonl@mastodon.wellperns.com (jonl) Fri 13 Jan 23 06:23
permalink #229 of 338: @jonl@mastodon.wellperns.com (jonl) Fri 13 Jan 23 06:23
Wow. Maybe there's a signal in the current Musky odor coming from Twitter, and all the defections to various platforms, mostly Mastodon, which is decentralized and has the scent of a democratic co-operative endeavor. I suppose it could change, in the way things change when they feel like opportunity, but Mastodon founder Eugen Rochko doesn't appear ready to exploit the system's current popularity in order to line his pockets. I think he sees the filthy part of "filthy rich." Moving to Mastodon, I can see people that I know, and the posts I'm seeing are the sort of posts I was seeing on early social media, when it was mostly just the early adopters hanging out making good conversation, before spam, celebrity and toxic politics were added to the mix. We'll see if that's sustainable. The WELL is pretty much the same community after over 3.5 decades, and there's a comfort in seeing that persistence. The storms are coming, how resilient is the human race, to weather the worst of it? Many species are disappearing during the Anthropocene, maybe the human race will join them. But I know better than to place any bets, one way or another. We've been seeing a dangerous trend toward authoritarian leadership in various parts of the globe, including and especially the USA, where an unhinged former game show host has become a real political force - if you'd written a science fiction novel with that premise, I'm sure I would have relegated it to an unread stack and forgot about it. But... when the crass and the crazies put their hands on the levers of power and start manipulating things, their manipulations become more transparent, and cooler heads rebel. At least I think that's what happens. I can't imagine that any human majority has collectively lost its mind - sooner or later there'll be a catalyst for yet another course change. If we do recover from the lunacy of this long moment, and right the course of the ship before it smashes into the rocks, we might be okay for a while... until some later wave of crazy is unleashed. At the moment, the best strategy might be to stream "Emily in Paris" in UHD HDR and Dolby Atmos surround sound, and appreciate the luxurious high fashion fantasy, as the temperature ascends.
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permalink #230 of 338: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Fri 13 Jan 23 07:21
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permalink #231 of 338: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Fri 13 Jan 23 10:01
permalink #231 of 338: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Fri 13 Jan 23 10:01
"Indian summer of the old world" seems to this intuitive non-futurist a likely apt and quite evocatively beautiful description of our current era... (a phrase I realized as I typed it whose use is probably no longer smiled upon here in the U.S.)
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permalink #232 of 338: William F. Stockton (yesway) Fri 13 Jan 23 10:11
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permalink #233 of 338: power meower (autumn) Fri 13 Jan 23 10:55
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permalink #234 of 338: Gary Gach (ggg) Fri 13 Jan 23 12:38
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permalink #235 of 338: Alex Davie (icenine) Sat 14 Jan 23 03:50
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permalink #236 of 338: @jonl@mastodon.wellperns.com (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 07:46
permalink #236 of 338: @jonl@mastodon.wellperns.com (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 07:46
I just ran across a piece called "The Cyborganic Path," something I wrote in 1997 for CMC Magazine. I barely remember writing it. It reminds me how things change and how things don't change. "Look at the origin of cyberpunk, an aesthetic source of cyborganic vision: William Gibson's Neuromancer trilogy (plus The Difference Engine, a fourth book authored with Bruce Sterling), a transitional set of works between earlier science or speculative fiction and the cyberpunk sub-genre, posits the evolution of consciousness within a computer network toward a godlike transcendent being within which minor spirits (loas) reside. Gibson has constructed a mythopoetic representation of a search for significance in technological transcendence, one approach to a cyborganic spiritualism: a literal deus ex machina. Though Gibson's vision may not represent a plausible future, he has articulated in the cyborganic context the expectation that a supreme being (or beingness), a transcendence, exists as an evolutionary goal, where evolution involves silicon-based extension of human spiritual "form." "Though there is no prevailing net-based spiritual vision or belief, and though the global interactive character of the net reinforces the postmodern depreciation of particular belief systems, the sense of an evolving global consciousness a la Teilhard still emerges as a persistent thread within cybercultural discourse. Teilhard proposed noosphere as transbiological evolutionary goal, an inherent final step coextensive with the Omega point, the end run of collective salvation, (a rapture sort of gig, but not unlike the vision within Arthur C. Clarke's 2001/Childhood's End shaggy-apocalypse stories). At some point we all sort of merge, humming one note or hummed as one note, ingested by Nirvana and regurgitated as Enlightened Unity." <https://johndecember.com/cmc/mag/1997/apr/lebkow.html>
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permalink #237 of 338: Michael Brockington (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 07:55
permalink #237 of 338: Michael Brockington (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 07:55
Via Email from Michael Brockington: A few thoughts prompted by comment <112>: "Write a monologue on the state of the world as it might be seen by Grouch Marx." The AI-generated mess of cliches generated by this prompt hangs together, but surely I'm not the only one to notice it contains nothing resembling humour: no wordplay, no wit, nary a joke. So as far as channeling Groucho Marx goes, what a failure! Which prompts me to speculate that humour may be a hard problem for AI -- wordplay particularly. That sort of humour depends in large degree on creatively breaking the rules of language, while still making some kind of sense. I suspect Chat-GPT is much better at following rules than breaking them. Maybe you can loosen off some parameter after you've trained it, but that seems more likely to produce non-sequiturs than jokes. I can foresee a sense of humour becoming the number one attribute for those on dating Apps, at least if you want to avoid being cat-fished by a chat-bot. (Chat-fished?) Of course it's possible Chat-GPT has a great sense of humour, and just didn't know who Groucho Marx was, or was confused by the mispelling ('Grouch' with no 'o'.) There's been some discussion of using this type of AI as an assistant, but what I've seen on the subject to date reminds me of some bad experiences. Someone who pretends to understand you when they actually don't is the worst kind of assistant. I do think it's fair play to use Chat-GPT to write job applications, though, since some kind of AI is probably screening them at the other end of the pipe. This seems to me the most benign use of this technology -- a loop of machines talking to machines, without disturbing the humans. I do wonder if some of the compulsion to argue on the internet will dissipate, as people become more aware of the likelihood they're talking to entities who have no mind to change. I can imagine flame-wars disappearing into history -- although in such a case, various media companies would presumably program their AI commentators to dial up the rage-o-meter in order to re-engage mellowed-out users.
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permalink #238 of 338: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:19
permalink #238 of 338: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:19
Thanks for that interesting set of thoughts, Michael. Word play in humor and word play in poems overlap in the way they ask you to pivot between two different meanings -- I've long thought that might make a good fMRI study. And both signal a kind of suppleness of mind that human beings appreciate in one another. Can an AI actually for real make a joke may be the next Turing test. (Good jokes are more widely recognizable than good poems are.) On the other hand, quite a few people are also less than gifted at making jokes. Even among insects-- some sing, some can't. --Issa, 18th c. haiku poet
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permalink #239 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:23
permalink #239 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:23
Well, I've got to climb on a plane for Italy presently, so I'm about done here at the WELLSoTW MMXIII. The year's well under way. Got some evocative morsels to offer in parting. This has been quite a gloomy State of the Year, but here's a survey of professional news people in which they express fear that this year's news may be so unrelievedly awful that people won't be willing to read it and pay for it. https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/journalism-media-and-technology-tre nds-and-predictions-2023 So, you know, we're not extravagantly dark in our public assessments here. Of course you can ignore current events and stick your head deep in the sand, but you won't breathe any better for it. Personally, I'm by no means a stern, newshound realist, I'm actually a professional fantasist, but I plan to read quite a lot of news this year. More so than normally, even.
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permalink #240 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:24
permalink #240 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:24
Here's an article about notorious antivax deniers and QAnon zealots dying of Covid. There's lots of 'em dead. More all the time. "Robert David Steele," you might have heard of him. https://news.yahoo.com/qanon-star-said-only-idiots-194553934.html You might think: well! How much ironic punishment can these QAnon eccentrics dish out to themselves? Surely they'll catch on! The actual trend will be the opposite: they'll find ways to valorize death by Covid as a glorious martyrdom, in rather a Christian-Science style. Lifespans are dropping, and people are dying, not just out of general disease and misery, but like these people die: out of wounded pride, offended amour-propre, and even pure spite.
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permalink #241 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:25
permalink #241 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:25
Expecting QAnon to wise up is like expecting a military rebellion from modern Russian troops, in a Battleship Potemkin style. Those rebellions do happen in Russia, but they happen because of insultingly bad food, not because they're Russians dying en masse. The Russians don't much mind the dying, and they're in the societal avant-garde here. In times of persistent pandemic, more people have their brusque Russian attitude than the squeamish one of trying to stay alive by whatever fussy means necessary. As Will and Ariel Durant used to declare about the crooked timber that is mankind: "Our capacity for fretting is endless, and no matter how many difficulties we surmount, how many ideals we realize, we shall always find an excuse for being magnificently miserable; there is a stealthy pleasure in rejecting mankind or the universe as unworthy of our approval." This is a moral vice of our era, this fatal pride that our magnificent assumptions are unfairly denied to us, and it's something to look out for in one's self. In the meantime, yeah, lots of sick people. Evan and Katelyn, the amusing YouTube couple I was praising earlier, they both just announced on YouTube just got sick of Covid. Best of health to them. And to Toomas Ilves, who's still sick. It's a serious disease and it's by no means in retreat.
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permalink #242 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:27
permalink #242 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:27
Here's some last-ditch trendy AI stuff, because although I've been claiming, accurately I think, that "digital" is becoming stodgy and is not in command of current events, how can I not dote on this techie gossip? Here's some "AI plagiarism" where some hustler machine-rewrites news articles wholesale and then posts the results. The resultant text-products have more or less the same news content as the original human-written articles, so why not read them? Obviously entire novels and stories could be mulched in this way just as AI generators mulch art and photography. If you liked "Finnegan's Wake," enjoy the new bowdlerized version in actual digitized English! We'll see plenty of AI abuse-potential stuff explored this year. This, and unheard-of neo-crimes and misdeeds, guaranteed. https://www.bigtechnology.com/p/a-writer-used-ai-to-plagiarize-me
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permalink #243 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:27
permalink #243 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:27
Why not try the "new AI' as a more user-friendly lacquer over all the "old AI"? Well, why not indeed? Go ahead! Bolt ChatGPT onto anything! https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/01/wolframalpha-as-the-way-to-bring-c omputational-knowledge-superpowers-to-chatgpt/ Speaking of machine-learning AI, why not use Iranian face recognition to make sure that women are forced to wear their hijabs even when there are no men around? That's patriarchal oppression "reified with a clunky intensity," as Adam Greenfield used to say about ubiquitous computing. "Gosh that's terrible!" Those cameras are all over the USA and EU and China, you're already sitting in that frying pan. https://www.wired.com/story/iran-says-face-recognition-will-id-women-breaking- hijab-laws/
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permalink #244 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:29
permalink #244 of 338: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 14 Jan 23 10:29
"My goodness, Mr Cyberpunk, your futurist prognostications sure are downbeat this year!" Yeah, that's true, but I dunno what to tell you, except that it makes me write funny sci-fi. I used to live in Belgrade in previous decades, a rather tough, trouble-hardened town with extensive grim historical experience, where I was basically a cheery Polyanna figure, this upbeat Yankee guy who used to smile all the time and methodically oil the door hinges. I'm not there in Belgrade very often in this decade, so I felt like I could write a fantasy yarn that expressed my relationship to Belgrade existence. https://medium.com/@bruces/balkan-cosmology-by-bruce-sterling-2022-9a06b9b28bc 0 I wouldn't blame you if you think this yarn is pitch-black dystopianism, but I'm inclined to think it may be the funniest thing I ever wrote. I'm deeply impressed by my own wit here, even though, as science fiction, it's probably commercially useless. Because, after a while, I got used to Belgrade. I never "acculturated," but I kind of get it about them. I'll probably live ten years longer because I hang out in Italy and Spain rather than Serbia, but I kinda miss 'em. That town has been leveled in repeated historic disasters about nineteen times (nobody's quite sure of the count), but they're still around no matter what, and in MMXXIII they've never looked so prosperous. So instead of being an "exotic" or "dark" or "peculiar" place, it won't surprise me if, in a decade or so, people visit Belgrade and gaze around at the cultural sensibility there and just kinda nod. Why not a happy ending? The people like that! You could do a lot worse!
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permalink #245 of 338: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 14 Jan 23 11:16
permalink #245 of 338: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 14 Jan 23 11:16
Hi all - Sorry to have dropped abruptly out of the conversation - there was a family emergency. If anyone's still interested in chatting, I'll be here through Monday to assist in winding up this year's SOTW.
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permalink #246 of 338: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Sat 14 Jan 23 11:24
permalink #246 of 338: Jane Hirshfield (jh) Sat 14 Jan 23 11:24
Bruce to Italy, Jon to hip surgery, all of us into the future we go... Thank you both, for once again hosting a rich and ranging conversation here. Thank you Bruce, for this last set of observations and links and naming what's around us. And for handing out the umbrella of the comic in bleak and dark weathers. Here's my hope for the next year: that we get some surprises to the good. That fevers of hatred begin to burn out, and also the virus. That technology incrementally or exponentially gives us some tools for improving the lives of both humans and our fellow inhabitants of the planet. That some gorgeous works of art come into being. That fewer go hungry, cold, thirsty, hot, are trapped by strictures, are holding breath against missiles. That common sense becomes more common and human hearts more forgiving and tender, more in love with existence and with one another. See you next year!
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permalink #247 of 338: Erik Josowitz (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:39
permalink #247 of 338: Erik Josowitz (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:39
My friend Erik Josowitz sent me a text message with the following: "ChatGPT writes business plans that can be hard to discern from real ones! [He attached a pdf of such a business plan, "Dynamic web3 Social Network."] What will happen to a16z if they have to spend all their time vetting proposals generated by their robot?" I asked him if I could share that message ... his response: "Of course. The prompt was 'ChatGPT, write a business plan for a new web3 business model where shareholders token values would be pegged to community participation'. A few tweaks asking it to add a section on technology and links/citations. It quickly got to a point where I couldn't easily tell if it was bullshit. "I think Ezra Klein's take on it - that it drops the marginal cost of producing bullshit to zero - is the real issue with ChatGPT and StableDiffusion/MidJourney."
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permalink #248 of 338: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:39
permalink #248 of 338: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:39
Thanks everyone for this years SOTW that I somehow found extra useful
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permalink #249 of 338: @jonl@mastodon.wellperns.com (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:42
permalink #249 of 338: @jonl@mastodon.wellperns.com (jonl) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:42
I'll still be logging in here tomorrow but, as mentioned before, I'll be preoccupied Monday. However this topic isn't going anywhere, and others can feel free to keep posting.
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permalink #250 of 338: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:46
permalink #250 of 338: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Sat 14 Jan 23 14:46
And incidentally, welcome back Emily and I hope the family emergency has resolved
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