inkwell.vue.522 : State of the World 2023: Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky
permalink #326 of 338: Hanna Kovenock (hakoveno) Thu 19 Jan 23 11:11
    
Going back to my lane now
  
inkwell.vue.522 : State of the World 2023: Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky
permalink #327 of 338: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Thu 19 Jan 23 11:24
    
Rebecca Solnit has a long piece in The Guardian cautioning against
despair and urging a reframe of the narrative around climate change:

"Every crisis is in part a storytelling crisis. This is as true of
climate chaos as anything else. We are hemmed in by stories that
prevent us from seeing, or believing in, or acting on the
possibilities for change. Some are habits of mind, some are industry
propaganda. Sometimes, the situation has changed but the stories
haven’t, and people follow the old versions, like outdated maps,
into dead ends.

We need to leave the age of fossil fuel behind, swiftly and
decisively. But what drives our machines won’t change until we
change what drives our ideas. The visionary organiser adrienne maree
brown wrote not long ago that there is an element of science fiction
in climate action: “We are shaping the future we long for and have
not yet experienced. I believe that we are in an imagination
battle.”

In order to do what the climate crisis demands of us, we have to
find stories of a livable future, stories of popular power, stories
that motivate people to do what it takes to make the world we need.
Perhaps we also need to become better critics and listeners, more
careful about what we take in and who’s telling it, and what we
believe and repeat, because stories can give power – or they can
take it away.

To change our relationship to the physical world – to end an era of
profligate consumption by the few that has consequences for the many
– means changing how we think about pretty much everything: wealth,
power, joy, time, space, nature, value, what constitutes a good
life, what matters, how change itself happens. As the climate
journalist Mary Heglar writes, we are not short on innovation.
“We’ve got loads of ideas for solar panels and microgrids. While we
have all of these pieces, we don’t have a picture of how they come
together to build a new world. For too long, the climate fight has
been limited to scientists and policy experts. While we need their
skills, we also need so much more. When I survey the field, it’s
clear that what we desperately need is more artists.”

What the climate crisis is, what we can do about it, and what kind
of a world we can have is all about what stories we tell and whose
stories are heard."

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/jan/12/rebecca-solnit-climate-crisis-pop
ular-imagination-why-we-need-new-stories
  
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permalink #328 of 338: Hanna Kovenock (hakoveno) Thu 19 Jan 23 12:51
    
Thank you for framing my rant so generously.
  
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permalink #329 of 338: Bert Stammerjohan (bstamerjon) Thu 19 Jan 23 13:05
    
Daniel Quinn talked on this subject in Ishmael and other books.
There came a point where one culture of humanity decided to conquer
and rule the earth as if we were the end point of evolution. We are
of that culture. Until we stop living this way, disaster looms. 
  
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permalink #330 of 338: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 19 Jan 23 16:45
    
Here’s an off-Well response to <4>

The Permaweird
There is no polycrisis, only nostalgia for an imagined present
<https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/the-permaweird>

> Unlike Bruce, I’m not surprised. This continuity and mutation into
“long-term shambolic debacles” (though I would challenge the
“debacle” part) is precisely what I’ve been going on about with my
notion of the Permaweird. Arguably, once you’re in a regime of
long-term shambolic evolution, you can’t really think of it as a
crisis at all.

> The Permaweird leaves us in a perennial state of frustrated
urgency; a cortisol-saturated state of being with nothing to do and
nowhere to go. And the longer it persists, the more we begin to
harbor the growing suspicion that perhaps there is no crisis as
such. That for the most part, despite the snowballing weirdness,
there is nothing in the circumstances for which a literal crisis
response, in a biochemical fight-or-flight sense, is appropriate,
either at an individual or collective level.

> Things like climate change and the culture war are not even crises
in a figurative sense. They are phenomena that exist on social
scales we are simply not used to inhabiting at all, in crisis mode
or otherwise. Our intuitions and frames from smaller scales do not
apply.

The scale issue rings true to me. I’m more comfortable thinking
about water shortages in the American West than about global
warming. Although that’s already an enormous scale and it’s
politically very difficult, I can imagine what adjustments need to
be made. One victory condition would be some kind of messy
compromise among the states that get water from the Colorado river
basin. It might happen at the last minute, but it will have to
happen when the water starts getting cut off seasonally. It doesn’t
seem religious.

I’m not sure what to think when activists block coal mining in
Lützerath, Germany. In human, local terms, they are blocking huge
machines from doing enormous damage to the land. (The residents have
been bought out and left already.) But it’s unclear what the stakes
are for the world? Germany is apparently already getting out of coal
mining, though it’s been delayed. There were plans to destroy five
other villages that have been scrapped.

In one sense, the Greens have already won there, and this is just a
mopping up exercise, one final battle and the expansion of coal
mining is over there, regardless of which side wins. In another
sense, it probably doesn’t really make a dent in CO2 emissions
because German coal plants will still need to burn coal from
somewhere else. So it seems like a real, concrete action of stopping
enormous machines has been made symbolic?

Other calls to action that people make about global warming are
often extremely vague. “We must stop living this way” doesn’t have
an action plan associated with it. The things we can do personally
often seem only symbolically connected to climate change, sort of
like pressing a “walk” button that’s been disabled.
  
inkwell.vue.522 : State of the World 2023: Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky
permalink #331 of 338: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Mon 23 Jan 23 16:27
    
Bruce mentioned Robert David Steele, the Q-anon, anti-vaxxer, ex-CIA
guy who died of Covid, denying it to the end.

In the early 1990s, when I was editor of Whole Earth Review, he
proposed and I commissioned an article on what he was calling "open
source intelligence." He later invited Barlow and me to speak to
intelligence people about the idea. I visited his house. He lived in
Langley, not far from HQ. His wife was also CIA. He said she was in
the drugs division. I was too polite to ask if it was the part that
interdicted drugs or the part that sold drugs. His den had pictures
on the wall of him with what looked like teenagers in some Central
American country, holding machine guns.

He visited me a couple times. I took him to breakfast, where he
drank 3 glasses of wine at 9 AM. 

Then I didn't hear from him for decades. About 3 or 4 years ago, he
showed up. He and I and former Wellite Are We Really took a walk.
During the walk, Really and I exchanged wide-eyed glances as Steele
went on about his elaborate anti-semitic conspiracy theories.

Eek.

Then I heard about his death.
  
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permalink #332 of 338: Michael Brockington (jonl) Tue 24 Jan 23 14:38
    
(Via email from Michael Brockington - posted late, originally
received January 15)

Thank-you, everyone, for an ever-stimulating start to the year.

As a post-script, I thought an experimental investigation of
Chat-GPT's sense of humour might be worthwhile.  I can report that
comedians (and poets?) have little to fear for now. 
Humour is subjective, of course, but these results could at best be
characterized as lame.  They bear some statistical resemblance to
humour, without actually being funny.  On a par with dad-jokes,
perhaps?

Note also that a google search turns up some of these jokes
verbatim...

The dismal results:

>>Tell me a joke about iguanas
Why did the iguana break up with his girlfriend? Because she was
always too cold-blooded for him.

>>make a pun about bananas
Why did the banana go to the doctor? Because it wasn't peeling well.
[plagiarized verbatim from the internet]

>>demonstrate wordplay about the cold war
Why did the Soviet Union and the United States have a cold war?
Because they were too chilly to warm up to each other.

>>tell me a joke about an onion and a drainpipe
Why did the onion go to the drainpipe? To get a little privacy while
it cried.

>>make a joke
Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything.
[plagiarized verbatim from the internet]

>>demonstrate witty repartee about dishes
Person 1: "I can't believe I have to do dishes again, it's such a
chore."
Person 2: "I guess you could say it's a plate full of trouble."
Person 1: "Ha, at least it will be a clean slate when we're done."
Person 2: "Yeah, but it's a lot of work to get to that point, it's a
real grind."

>>make a joke about death
I'm sorry, but making a joke about death may be considered offensive
or insensitive to some people. It's important to be respectful and
considerate of others' feelings and beliefs. Is there anything else
I could help you with?


Further investigation is required, to see how chat-GPT copes with
heckling.
  
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permalink #333 of 338: from JOHN FLY (tnf) Mon 24 Jul 23 10:34
    


Via email from John Fly:



I bleed revolution. If your only anarchist actions are related to union or-
ganizing, then you’re not an anarchist, you’re a corporate puppet.
Everything you do should work to subvert the current and future actions of
the state and all of their tentacle corporate affiliations. If your only goal
in life is to work under the orders of someone else, under someone’s
else’s direction, with someone else’s instructions, then you’re not a
human being. You’re a chattel cattle at best. If a corporate pig tells or
wants you to do something, then you should do the exact opposite, or else
you’re just a pawn in a game of global corporate chess. Every one of your
actions should be both a defensive and offensive maneuver. If you defend
while you attack, you become one with your true purpose, which is to dis-
mantle the state and all corporate authority. If you don’t think in a
linear manner, then you’re not apart of their datasets, and they can’t
predict your next move. You operate from outside of their datasets and what
they think is your next move is never your next move. Then they start to
doubt their own intelligence and all the false assumptions it’s based on,
and the system starts to crumble. You use any means necessary, because that
is your constitutional right, just as they use any means necessary to hold
onto the power they stole from you. They stole your birthright, and it’s
your legal duty as an American citizen to seek a redress of your grievances,
using whatever it takes. Under no pretext.
  
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permalink #334 of 338: William F. Stockton (yesway) Mon 24 Jul 23 11:48
    
>>If you defend
while you attack, you become one with your true purpose, which is to
dismantle the state and all corporate authority.

Moving fast and breaking things hasn't exactly proven to be a good
strategy for the planet. Society, like nature, abhors a vacuum.
Chaos is more easily turned to brute tyranny than a cumbersome
bureaucratic regime. 

>>If a corporate pig tells or wants you to do something, then you
should do the exact opposite, or else you're just a pawn in a game
of global corporate chess.

I'ma keep paying my bills, and voting.
  
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permalink #335 of 338: Mark McDonough (mcdee) Mon 24 Jul 23 14:18
    
Yeah as numerous wags have pointed out if you want a place without
corporate or government authority you can always move to Somalia.
  
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permalink #336 of 338: those Andropovian bongs (rik) Tue 25 Jul 23 07:46
    
That screed reads as if it were written by a person with no dependants.
  
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permalink #337 of 338: Inkwell Host (jonl) Tue 25 Jul 23 09:18
    
The 'chaos agent' project never worked. It's like you decide your
house would look better without a foundation, and tore it out. What
happens to the house, when you do that?
  
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permalink #338 of 338: Jordan is Puffball! (magdalen) Fri 28 Jul 23 13:57
    

it might be that we'd all be better off without the house, becoming
nomadic, living lightly on the land. it might be better that we rebuild a
better house with a solid foundation and more skylights, plus solar.

but all that idealistic chaos stuff sounds pretty fucking naive to this
middle-aged person. rip the house down? my kids are in there! and my aging
elders! maybe let's not rip it down after all...
  



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