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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #0 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 25 Jan 24 15:43
permalink #0 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 25 Jan 24 15:43
Welcome to State of the News 2024, with veteran journalists and journalism educators John Schwartz and Paula Span. From Jan 30 - Feb 12, we'll be discussing the challenges facing the news industry in 2024 and beyond, how outlets and journalists are covering the news (or failing at it), how two of the nation's top journalism schools hatch tender young reporters and teach them to fly - and more. I'm Emily J. Gertz, fledgling co-host of Inkwell with Jon Lebkowsky <jonl> and David Gans <gans>, and I'll be moderating our discussion.
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #1 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:01
permalink #1 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:01
We're kicking off this conversation amid a dismal run of staff cuts at some of the biggest names in U.S. journalism. The latest run, that is. Last week, the Los Angeles Times, the largest newspaper in California I believe, announced it was laying off 115 (120 by some accounts) employees, more 20% of the newsroom. Apparently it's one of the paper's biggest staff cuts in its 143-year history, as millionaire owner Patrick Soon-Shiong said it was important toward "building a sustainable and thriving paper for the next generation." According to The Guardian, "Young journalists of color were 'disproportionately affected; by the layoffs, the Los Angeles Times Guild said in a statement, with many Black, Asian American, and Latino staffers losing their jobs, despite the Soon-Shiong familys public commitment in 2020 to diversity in the papers staff, which it said 'has never truly reflected the region'." Forbes and Business Insider also announced layoffs last week (3% and 8% respectively), as did Sport Illustrated by more than 100 staffers, to move toward a "streamlines business model." Coincidentally, the layoff included every union member at Sports Illustrated, but no managers or supervisors. The NewsGuild of NY and the SI Union have filed an unfair labor practice charge with the NLRB. In November, Condé Nast announced layoffs of roughly 300 staffers - 5% of employees - including at The New Yorker and Vanity Fair. Also, Vox followed up a 7% layoff at the start of 2023 with a 4% layoff. Last year also saw The Washington Post (owner: billionaire Jeff Bezos) cut 240 jobs through buyouts; the closure of Jezebel; and cuts at NPR of around 10% of staff, at least 100 people None of this even begins to describe the decimation of local news outlets. According to the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern U., since 2005 the nation has lost 3,000 newspapers and 43,000 newspaper journalist jobs over the past 19 years: one-third of its newspapers and two-thirds of newspaper journalists. "While digital outlets have emerged to fill some voids, they're closing at roughly the same rate as new ones start, the report said. There is talk of public financing helping the industry, and more philanthropic money is coming in, but none of that has changed the trajectory," according to AP's coverage of the report last November.
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #2 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:31
permalink #2 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:31
Why has all this happened? Because Craigslist, Google, Facebook and a few other entities decimated once-lucrative U.S. journalism revenues, which came largely from selling reader eyeballs to advertisers, particularly in the classified pages. Yet despite this and even more than I've mentioned - such as vertical integration of ownership since the 1990s, or the rise in violent attacks on journalists and vicious online harassment over the past decade or so (particularly toward people of color and women) university journalism programs remain a going concern. Why is that? What's motivating new people to get into this devastated industry at this dark time? Where are the jobs - and how are news outlets doing at finding new ways to pay for them? Inkwell is thrilled to welcome veteran journalists and journalism educators Paula Span and John Schwartz to discuss these questions and more over the next two weeks.
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #3 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:43
permalink #3 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:43
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #4 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:47
permalink #4 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:47
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #5 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:55
permalink #5 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Jan 24 18:55
Also - a correction: My Inkwell cohosts are David Gans, <tnf> on the WELL, and Jon Lebkowsky <jonl>.
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #6 of 280: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 29 Jan 24 20:03
permalink #6 of 280: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 29 Jan 24 20:03
Hi, everybody! We've got a lot to talk about, and not all of it has to be depressing. (I promise! Though a lot of it is, and thank you, Emily, for making me want to lie down in an empty bathtub and breathe slowly until I stop shaking.) Here's a good story from the NYT that lays out some of the challenges for journalism and journalists â though Emily's recap really tells you what you need to know: <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/24/business/media/media-industry- layoffs-decline.html> I worked at The Times from 2000 until 2021, with the last 7 years of my career there with the climate team. I've also worked at The Washington Post and Newsweek, and my first paying job in journalism was at The Daily Texan, the school newspaper of UT Austin. Coming back to Austin, and teaching journalism at the school where I got the bug, has been fantastic. Well, if you don't count Texas politics. Anyway! Looking forward to our conversation. AMA, and yes, IATA.
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #7 of 280: Mark McDonough (mcdee) Tue 30 Jan 24 03:36
permalink #7 of 280: Mark McDonough (mcdee) Tue 30 Jan 24 03:36
The Times, after wobbling for a bit, seems to be going from strength to strength lately, becoming something of a "national newspaper" in the British sense. It's a bit worrisome that it has so few companions in that niche - maybe none. It seems like all the country's other major newspapers are in serious trouble - except perhaps the WaPo, which is doing OK only because Bezos is willing and able to lose lots of money running it. Is my impression correct?
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #8 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 07:14
permalink #8 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 07:14
John, I will take that as a backhanded compliment of my vivid writing style.
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permalink #9 of 280: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Tue 30 Jan 24 08:03
permalink #9 of 280: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Tue 30 Jan 24 08:03
Emily, yes -- you described the state of the news biz so very well that I got a big sad. But it's a new day, and I'm better now! Compartmentalization for the win. Thank you, Mark -- I worry that the news media landscape looks too much like a "winner take all" market, with winners winning because they are winning. Winner-take-all markets can be disrupted, but this means if you're not the tentpole, you're likelier to have problems. So local markets lost their media competition, and now those sole news sources in broader markets are squeezed, as well for all of the reasons Emily laid out. This is not the kind of thing that ever made me feel smug when I was at the NYT. When other news organizations get scoops, it makes you more competitive. More scared. And being scared is good for reporters; it raises the competitive metabolism, and makes for more news out there.
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #10 of 280: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Tue 30 Jan 24 08:09
permalink #10 of 280: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Tue 30 Jan 24 08:09
I am very excited that this is excellent journalists and teachers are appearing here on the well for this conversation. As a freelance writer myself, I have been part of this collapsing industry for many years. it stands out to me that in most nationally visible conversations about the crisis in news and journalism, the media is assumed to be large, city newspapers along the lines of the New York Times. I have made crappy money writing for alternative weeklies, and these days for a small town weekly, and I think we have much to learn from these entities. The small papers and magazines and websitesâthe ones where the line between journalism and local boosterism is utterly blurred, where everyone knows that objectivity is pretty much a fruitless endeavor, generally donât attempt to break a Watergate scandal. Yet I feel they serve the public in some really significant ways. I would love to hear discussions that acknowledge the role of these alternative news universes. Some of them are even managing to remain independent when the newspaper of record for a particular city or region is getting gobbled up by some crappy mega corporation. Pardon any typos etc., I am dictating this post because I have a wrist injury.
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #11 of 280: J Matisse Enzer (matisse) Tue 30 Jan 24 08:29
permalink #11 of 280: J Matisse Enzer (matisse) Tue 30 Jan 24 08:29
How much income does it take for an organization to be a healthy high quality news source? What are the mechanisms for funding journalism that are or can succeed in the post-print-advertising age? Tiff: one example of a long-lived local news source that is pretty much exactly what you describe is the weekly Point Reyes Light: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Reyes_Light_(newspaper)
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #12 of 280: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 30 Jan 24 10:12
permalink #12 of 280: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 30 Jan 24 10:12
Hi all. Last week and the week before truly were bloodbaths. Besides the LAT and Sports Illustrated and Conde Nast and the WashPost buyouts -- which sent some of the paper's most experienced writers, editor and critics walking out the door -- there was the sale of the Baltimore Sun to a Sinclair exec who doesn't look at all like good news. So, the paradigm in which billionaires rescue the news biz by buying up prestige publications doesn't look solid. The Boston Globe apparently is still profitable, but guys like Bezos and Soon-Shiong have shown that they're unwilling to prop up news organizations, even when they can afford it. Another alternative that was briefly cheering was the nonprofit newsrooms popping up around the country. Some are stable, but it was worrisome when the Texas Tribune, on of the most successful, did its own round of staff cuts. https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2023-08-23/texas-tribune- lays-off-journalists-and-entire-copy-desk/ So did Houston Landing a couple of weeks ago. I'm honestly not sure who or what can rescue local journalism, and local these days means big cities without stable publications. (The Times points out, however, that local TV news is hanging in there.)
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permalink #13 of 280: Paul Belserene (paulbel) Tue 30 Jan 24 11:10
permalink #13 of 280: Paul Belserene (paulbel) Tue 30 Jan 24 11:10
I was just going to ask you, Paula, what would it take to make local and regional journalism sustainable. I've encountered from time to time what looks like people trying to establish a network of local/regional outlets, networked in some way. I'm struggling to remember the name of one of them. Short of journalism as a public utility (and wouldn't that be nice) what are the factors for making journalism sustainable in the US these days? There's subscriptions, there's ads, there's doodads like crosswords and Wordle... what else?
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #14 of 280: Paul Belserene (paulbel) Tue 30 Jan 24 11:46
permalink #14 of 280: Paul Belserene (paulbel) Tue 30 Jan 24 11:46
Oh, and another question: What has been the effect of the terminal enshittiication of Musk's plaything XTwitter? Specifically, 1) how are journalists dealing with it 2) what is the effect on local and regional organizations that gravitated to it for timely announcements 3) is there any kind of policy/suggestion on its use coming from large news organizations which used to expect their journos to be active on it?
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John Schwartz and Paula Span: State of the News 2024
permalink #15 of 280: Frako Loden (frako) Tue 30 Jan 24 13:47
permalink #15 of 280: Frako Loden (frako) Tue 30 Jan 24 13:47
Has anyone seen the new documentary STRIPPED FOR PARTS: AMERICAN JOURNALISM AT THE CROSSROADS? I'm going to one of the two sold-out screenings of this film playing in Oakland tonight. Described thus: "The story of one secretive hedge fund that is plundering Americas newspapers and the journalists who are fighting back. Investigative reporter Julie Reynolds, Denver Post editorialist Chuck Plunkett and a handful of others, backed by the NewsGuild Union, go toe-to-toe with the faceless Alden Global Capital in a battle to save and rebuild local journalism across America. Who will control the future of Americas news ecosystem: Wall Street billionaires concerned only with profit, or those who see journalism as an essential public service and the lifeblood of our democracy?" Trailer: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knkLfMsME0M>
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permalink #16 of 280: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Tue 30 Jan 24 14:07
permalink #16 of 280: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Tue 30 Jan 24 14:07
oooh! sounds promising. i hope there are similar documentaries about hedge funds and PEFs buying up medical clinics, hospitals, and nursing homes. so much of our essential societal infrastructure is up for grabs, bought up and squeezed out by the grabbiest. how are news organizations faring in less venal cultures and countries?
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permalink #19 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 16:34
permalink #19 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 16:34
Regarding a sustainable business base for journalism: In 2018 I was a Tow-Knight Entrepreneurial Journalism fellow at the CUNY* Graduate School of Journalism. One of the things I learned was that now, most outlets (on media other than TV, let's stipulate) need to diversify their revenue streams to at least five different sources of income, meaning subscriptions, classified and display ads, and at least three others. Putting on events...providing some sort of client services (ProPublica sells data sets, for instance: see https://www.propublica.org/datastore/)...sponsored content... This is where the non-profit news model can comes in, because it expands the options to memberships, grants, and individual donations. Another potential revenue stream is nurturing a cash cow to pay for the newsroom. This is why papers have real estate sections, for instance, or travel sections. I don't know specifics about the layoffs at the Texas Tribune, although I vividly recall the chill they caused, because TT had been THE standard-bearer for successful non-profit local and regional news. I can imagine reasons other than "non-profit news doesn't work full stop," however. What sometimes gets forgotten is that non-profit does not mean NO profit. It means putting the profit back into the business, instead of paying it out to owners/shareholders. *City University of New York
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permalink #20 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 16:37
permalink #20 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 16:37
Tiff, do you know how The Nugget is keeping itself afloat?
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permalink #21 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 16:59
permalink #21 of 280: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 30 Jan 24 16:59
Regarding local TV news, the unfortunate problem there has become concentration of ownership. Since the Telecommunications Act of 1996, diversified ownership of for-profit radio and TV stations has nearly gone extinct. There's an internet-famous chart still floating around, first published on the Frugal Dad blog (oop), that notes: "In 1983, 90% of American media was owned by 50 companies. In 2011, that same 90% is controlled by 6 companies." In 2011 they were GE (which owned NBC Universal, which is now owned by Comcast), News Corp (which sold 21st Century FOX to Disney and spun its news, sports and broadcasting assets off to a successor called Fox Corporation in 2019), Disney ('nuff said), Time Warner (bought by AT&T in 2018; sold to Discovery Inc. in 2022), Viacom and CBS (which merged in 2019, effectively ending Viacom as a separate entity). While the 6 companies may have changed, as far as I know the statistic remains correct, overall.
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permalink #22 of 280: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Tue 30 Jan 24 18:21
permalink #22 of 280: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Tue 30 Jan 24 18:21
Emily, that's a great point about diversifying revenue sources. The collapse of print advertising and the small profit in online advertising pushed the NYT and WP into subscription/paywall territory. That definitely doesn't work for everyone. The NYT is also drawing money out of people for its great food subscription, from The Athletic, and from puzzles and games, among other things. They are keeping a lot of plates spinning. As for hedge funds stripping newspapers for parts, I love this story from Dan Barry of the NYT: <https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/10/us/alden-global-capital-pottstown- mercury.html>
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permalink #24 of 280: b n (ellen) Tue 30 Jan 24 19:32
permalink #24 of 280: b n (ellen) Tue 30 Jan 24 19:32
I think printed/delivered is becoming a thing of the past. we get the NY Times and SF Chronicle delivered, or used to. the extremely reliable delivery person was laid off the first of the year. since then, it's been worse than spotty. one delivery person my partner encountered seemed stressed, and said he was a temp. I think that was Saturday and we haven't seen a paper since. (calling and asking for redelivery has been fruitless. humans reached are incredibly sorry, but...)
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