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permalink #176 of 179: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Wed 23 Apr 25 08:12
permalink #176 of 179: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Wed 23 Apr 25 08:12
Spoiler alert... But the group of Whovian fans seemed kind of unreal because theyâ were, in fact, not real. Though there's a bit at the end that showsâ that the manipulation that defeated Lux rendered the fans real,â after all. Which was a bit of a stretch, I'll admit, but fell inâ with the sense of wonder-fulness.
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permalink #177 of 179: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 02:14
permalink #177 of 179: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 02:14
The Whovian fans did seem to exist in a state of almostâ Heisenbergian uncertainty! I'm not sure the script of `Lux made an awful lot of logical senseâ at any point, which to be honest is why I struggle with it. I likeâ logical stories, not wild wacky surreal ones in which anything canâ happen at any time for any reason. It makes my teeth itch. Doctor Who used to be firmly science based - no magic, no gods,â nothing like that. But RTD has shifted that with the introduction ofâ the gods of discord (I think that's what they are called? Please doâ feel free to connect me if I'm wrong) to give him more latitude toâ be inventive and creative on the perfectly understandable groundsâ that after nearly 70 years the show needs new, fertile ground toâ inspire brand new stories. But inevitably it means that some fansâ won't feel quite as at home in the new context as they did, and forâ me at the moment I'm one of those. Which is not to say that I don't appreciate how well the episodesâ are done - the performances are wonderful (I'm particularly enjoyingâ Belinda, she's so much more engaging than Ruby so far) and the showâ looks fantastic. Although I did think that Lux has some borrowedâ aesthetics - the robots looked like the ones from The Husbands ofâ River Song (2015?) and their emoticon facial expressions were likeâ the bots from "Smile". Little things like that distracted me thisâ week.
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permalink #178 of 179: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 24 Apr 25 05:59
permalink #178 of 179: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 24 Apr 25 05:59
Apparently the concept of the Gods of Chaos (or Pantheon of Discord)â originated with the Trickster, which first appeared in "Whateverâ Happened to Sarah Jane" (2007).â <https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Trickster#Early_life>
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permalink #179 of 179: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 07:02
permalink #179 of 179: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 07:02
There's a lot of retrofitting going on here! I don't think there wasâ any intention to link The Trickster to a wider array ofâ pan-dimensional beings originally, but it's become an effective wayâ of sweeping up a whole class of alien adversaries into one "all youâ can eat" buffet. There's no question that in terms of the show, The Toymaker (henâ known as the Celestial Toymaker, played by Michael Gough in 1966)â came first when he popped up and was thwarted by William Hartnell'sâ first incarnation. Then there was Sutekh who was in one of the best loved Tom Bakerâ stories, Pyramids of Mars, in 1975. There was no suggestion at theâ time that he was a "god", just an advanced alien entity, but Russellâ T Davies decided he worked well alongside the Toymaker and soâ promoted him to godhood to be the season 1 Big Bad. They also seemâ to have swept up the Mara (from Peter Davidson stories Kinda andâ Snakedance) as members of the pantheon. But the idea of unifying all this mythology didn't really kick inâ until Wild Blue Yonder (the second of the 2023 David Tennantâ specials) and the moment that the Doctor failed to cast salt alongâ the threshold at the edge of the universe, allowing the banishedâ gods access to our universe. I think this is all very untidy, as is inevitably the case trying toâ make sense of 60+ years of television continuity created by dozensâ of different writers, producers and script editors down the decades.â Other elemental beings in the Whoniverse include The Eternals (fromâ Enlightenment) and the Guardians of Time (White and Black varieties)â and I confess that I'm not remotely sure what links and comparisonsâ there are between then all. The Whoniverse is a big and complicated place sometimes.
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