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permalink #176 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Wed 23 Apr 25 08:12
permalink #176 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Wed 23 Apr 25 08:12
Spoiler alert... But the group of Whovian fans seemed kind of unreal because theyâ were, in fact, not real. Though there's a bit at the end that showsâ that the manipulation that defeated Lux rendered the fans real,â after all. Which was a bit of a stretch, I'll admit, but fell inâ with the sense of wonder-fulness.
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permalink #177 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 02:14
permalink #177 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 02:14
The Whovian fans did seem to exist in a state of almostâ Heisenbergian uncertainty! I'm not sure the script of `Lux made an awful lot of logical senseâ at any point, which to be honest is why I struggle with it. I likeâ logical stories, not wild wacky surreal ones in which anything canâ happen at any time for any reason. It makes my teeth itch. Doctor Who used to be firmly science based - no magic, no gods,â nothing like that. But RTD has shifted that with the introduction ofâ the gods of discord (I think that's what they are called? Please doâ feel free to connect me if I'm wrong) to give him more latitude toâ be inventive and creative on the perfectly understandable groundsâ that after nearly 70 years the show needs new, fertile ground toâ inspire brand new stories. But inevitably it means that some fansâ won't feel quite as at home in the new context as they did, and forâ me at the moment I'm one of those. Which is not to say that I don't appreciate how well the episodesâ are done - the performances are wonderful (I'm particularly enjoyingâ Belinda, she's so much more engaging than Ruby so far) and the showâ looks fantastic. Although I did think that Lux has some borrowedâ aesthetics - the robots looked like the ones from The Husbands ofâ River Song (2015?) and their emoticon facial expressions were likeâ the bots from "Smile". Little things like that distracted me thisâ week.
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John Hood and Andrew Lewin: Finding Dr. Who
permalink #178 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 24 Apr 25 05:59
permalink #178 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 24 Apr 25 05:59
Apparently the concept of the Gods of Chaos (or Pantheon of Discord)â originated with the Trickster, which first appeared in "Whateverâ Happened to Sarah Jane" (2007).â <https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Trickster#Early_life>
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permalink #179 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 07:02
permalink #179 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 24 Apr 25 07:02
There's a lot of retrofitting going on here! I don't think there wasâ any intention to link The Trickster to a wider array ofâ pan-dimensional beings originally, but it's become an effective wayâ of sweeping up a whole class of alien adversaries into one "all youâ can eat" buffet. There's no question that in terms of the show, The Toymaker (henâ known as the Celestial Toymaker, played by Michael Gough in 1966)â came first when he popped up and was thwarted by William Hartnell'sâ first incarnation. Then there was Sutekh who was in one of the best loved Tom Bakerâ stories, Pyramids of Mars, in 1975. There was no suggestion at theâ time that he was a "god", just an advanced alien entity, but Russellâ T Davies decided he worked well alongside the Toymaker and soâ promoted him to godhood to be the season 1 Big Bad. They also seemâ to have swept up the Mara (from Peter Davidson stories Kinda andâ Snakedance) as members of the pantheon. But the idea of unifying all this mythology didn't really kick inâ until Wild Blue Yonder (the second of the 2023 David Tennantâ specials) and the moment that the Doctor failed to cast salt alongâ the threshold at the edge of the universe, allowing the banishedâ gods access to our universe. I think this is all very untidy, as is inevitably the case trying toâ make sense of 60+ years of television continuity created by dozensâ of different writers, producers and script editors down the decades.â Other elemental beings in the Whoniverse include The Eternals (fromâ Enlightenment) and the Guardians of Time (White and Black varieties)â and I confess that I'm not remotely sure what links and comparisonsâ there are between then all. The Whoniverse is a big and complicated place sometimes.
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permalink #180 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 8 May 25 09:20
permalink #180 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Thu 8 May 25 09:20
So we're half way through the new season of Doctor Who, and we'reâ happily chatting all about it inside the WELL (check out theâ <whovians.> conference and <sftv.> if you're a member and youâ haven't already.) There's not been a lot of conversation here in the public-facingâ Inkwell but I'd love to hear what people are thinking about the newâ run. If you're not a WELL member then you can still sendâ contributions by emailing inkwell[@]well.com. To recap: I think there were mixed feelings about the first episode,â "The Robot Revolution", which introduced the new companion ofâ Belinda, who is great. I had to watch it twice before I warmed up toâ it. It was a bit too frenetic for me but I think that wasâ intentional as it conveyed the sense of disorientation and confusionâ that Belinda was feeling, being swept up in all of this. The second episode was "Lux" which was a very meta episode in whichâ the Doctor confronts a cartoon come to life and even encounters aâ group of Who fans watching the show on TV. Everyone seemed to loveâ this, but - while I admired the inventiveness and fresh energy ofâ the episode - I didn't warm to it as much as others did. Am I aâ grouch? The first two episodes had a very vibrant, day-glo sense to them -â like watching the Batman movies made by Joel Schumacher. I muchâ prefer the darker Burton Batman movies and so I was pleased when theâ new Who season returned to that sort of serious fare with the thirdâ episode, called ... "The Well". Naturally all of us here were ratherâ invested in this one being a top episode! And for me it was, the best of the season so far. Very much likeâ classic episodes of old like "Earthshock" or "The Satan Pit". Itâ actually turned out to be an unexpected sequel to a past episodeâ (but not one of the ones just cited) and I really enjoyed that sortâ of thing. As was the most recent outing, "Lucky Day", which wasâ Doctor-lite and concentrated on last year's companion Ruby as sheâ attempts to reassimilate back into normal life. The only problem wasâ that it felt a bit too similar to least year's "73 Yards" to me andâ as a whole came across more like older vintage Who than the rest ofâ the stories so far this season. Overall, the thing we're all waiting for is the Season Arc toâ emerge. So far it seems that the Earth has ceased to exist, which isâ inconvenient, but where is Russell T Davies doing with that idea? Anyway, that's enough from me. What does anyone else think? Get inâ touch if you've been following this series or have thoughts aboutâ any Who-related aspects.
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permalink #181 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 8 May 25 11:38
permalink #181 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Thu 8 May 25 11:38
I liked "Lucky Day" quite a bit, though, because it made anâ important political statement about fascists using social media toâ disrupt real and valuable government operations. Meanwhile I'm bummed at reports that Ncuti Gatwa is leaving Dr. Who.â But I've already thought of a replacement, Chiwetel Ejiofor...!
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permalink #182 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Fri 9 May 25 02:58
permalink #182 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Fri 9 May 25 02:58
I liked "Lucky Day" too but there were definite echoes of pastâ Dctor-lite stories going on there as well. No bad thing, thoseâ stories have generally been pretty good and some of the best Whoâ episodes of the last two decades. The important political statement felt to many that it was anâ uncredited script insertion by showrunner Russell T Davies. I canâ certainly see why people would say that. In addition it was a littleâ too obvious and on-the-nose for many which has put some people offâ it. But like you, I thought it was much-needed and clearly somethingâ the author (whether RTD or not) felt strongly about, and gave aâ proper depth to the episode. > I'm bummed at reports that Ncuti Gatwa is leaving Dr. Who. I'm even more bummed by rumours that Disney is pulling the plug onâ its co-production deal and this would mean that the show as a wholeâ gets mothballed. Given that these episodes were filmed at the start of 2024 beforeâ the last season aired, and there has been no news of new filmingâ since then, it does feel rather like something should be happeningâ for 2026 but isn't.
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permalink #183 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 9 May 25 06:39
permalink #183 of 184: Inkwell Co-Host (jonl) Fri 9 May 25 06:39
Though after 62 years of stops and starts, I wouldn't count 'em out.
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permalink #184 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Fri 9 May 25 08:15
permalink #184 of 184: Andrew Lewin (draml) Fri 9 May 25 08:15
It feels strange to talk about a show that stops and starts when theâ first run lasted 26 years and the second has been going for 20 whichâ by almost every other show's standards is a model of longevity! But you're right, it has been stop-start, and always seemingly onâ the edge of being cancelled. When the show began in 1963 it wasâ given a 13 week deal. Then the Daleks came along and it became aâ cultural phenomenon and suddenly it was running year round (with aâ brief hiatus for Christmas). By the end of the 60s it seemed that the show had run it course. Itâ was touch and go whether they carried on after Patrick Troughtonâ stood down. Then bizarrely a format revamp and the casting of Jonâ Pertwee made it a huge hit again, and it only got bettr when Tomâ Baker took over. The BBC couldn't cancel if if they wanted to. Andâ they did want to, behind the scenes... TV changed in the 1970s and the series was gradually pruned down toâ 26 weeks per year which was standard for the period (most hour-longâ shows only ran to 13 episodes per season in the UK). It jogged alongâ pretty well until the infamous 'cancellation' shock where BBCâ controller Michael Grade put it on an 18 month hiatus in 1985 andâ only grudgingly brought it back due to petitions and protests. Evenâ so, the break rather killed the show's fan base and when it wasâ 'rested' again in 1989, this time it didn't come back. Well, it did - with a TV movie starring Paul McGann in 1996 whichâ did well but not well enough to get a series order from Fox in theâ US. Then it was rested again until Russell T Davies came along: theâ BBC wanted to hire him away from independent networks and the onlyâ thing they had to lure him that no one else had was Doctor Who, soâ they offered him that. And it worked. The show was pretty regular from then through theâ Eccleston/Tennant/Smith years but then the cost of making it hadâ meant it's had a year off every now and then. Slowly it got tiredâ and ratings went down: by the end of Jodie Whitaker's tenure the BBCâ plan was to 'rest' the show (translation: another 16 years ofâ hibernation) but then RTD declared an interest in returning and theâ Disney co-production deal came along, and suddenly it was hotâ property again. But I don't think the first Disney Who season delivered the ratingsâ that the Mouse House was looking for. There's been somethingâ luke-warm about the way that the new series has been promoted makingâ me wonder if Disney hasn't lost interest and is seeking a back doorâ exit. If that happened I'm not sure whether there would be a wayâ back for Doctor Who in future, or at least not for some time.
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