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Topic 546: Philip K. Dick, The Last Ten Years: A Conversation Between a Dark-Haired Girl and Tim Powers
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permalink #26 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 4 Jun 24 17:51
permalink #26 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 4 Jun 24 17:51
NOVA did a brief interview with the first robot. David Hanson, the man on the left, is the one who built the robots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot0Fuy34xN0 I should add that I have backed one of his projects on Kickstarter. It's delayed by years, but I can't wait to see it.
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permalink #27 of 241: Frako Loden (frako) Tue 4 Jun 24 18:00
permalink #27 of 241: Frako Loden (frako) Tue 4 Jun 24 18:00
> There are some things we have to talk about first, and then things will become clearer. OK then, so you will prompt me <castle>.
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permalink #28 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 4 Jun 24 19:59
permalink #28 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 4 Jun 24 19:59
Okay!
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permalink #29 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Tue 4 Jun 24 20:41
permalink #29 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Tue 4 Jun 24 20:41
That robot is unnerving. He seems way more aware than he can possibly really be, and I keep thinking the people asking him questions shouldn't laugh at him! He'll remember. And I'm not sure I buy the story that the first one Hanson built got left in the overhead compartment by mistake, and was lost. The robot probably made him say that. But back to the days when Philip K. Dick was not yet a robot -- Linda, how soon after Phil's arrival did you and he go to L.A. to have dinner with Harlan Ellison? I assume you drove. Did you know by that time who Harlan Ellison was?
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permalink #30 of 241: Betsy Schwartz (betsys) Tue 4 Jun 24 20:56
permalink #30 of 241: Betsy Schwartz (betsys) Tue 4 Jun 24 20:56
(Those robots are so unnerving! Not to interrupt the flow of the conversation, but as an aside, what is it like to see the face of someone you knew so well, in that form?)
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permalink #31 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Tue 4 Jun 24 21:21
permalink #31 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Tue 4 Jun 24 21:21
Betsy, it's not quite really him -- more like a cousin with a strong resemblance. And the voice isn't right. Still, I reflexively object to those people laughing at him when he tries to answer questions!
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permalink #32 of 241: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Tue 4 Jun 24 21:23
permalink #32 of 241: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Tue 4 Jun 24 21:23
WOOOOOW. This is The Best Topic on The Well right now!
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permalink #33 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 5 Jun 24 00:35
permalink #33 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 5 Jun 24 00:35
Heh! The robot looks just enough like him to do a double-take. David Hanson is really talented. So, yes, Tim, the dinner with Harlan! It wasn't too long after Phil arrived. The letter I wrote him was April 7th; the dinner was still April, certainly. I absolutely knew who Harlan was! I can't recall what we read of his in the science fiction class, I just remember that I loved it, and I got all fangirl when Phil invited me to dinner with him. And yes, I drove. Phil didn't have a car, of course. We drove to Harlan's house - Ellison Wonderland is what it said on the mailbox. It was somewhere off of Mulholland and that's as close as I can get to remembering where it was. The plan was to go to a Chinese restaurant in Hollywood called Ting Ho for dinner. I drove my car and Harlan drove his. It was a twin to mine - a yellow 1967 Chevy Camaro. His had personalized license plates that said "HE." When we got there, we discovered that Harlan had also invited other people, including Ed Bryant, and a student of Harlan's. He was teaching a class at his house and had had a drawing to see see which student would get to come to dinner with Philip K. Dick. Harlan apologized to us, "I'm sorry, Phil, she's a real toad; of all the students who could have won, it was her!" Ed was picking her up and they arrived after we were seated. Phil said, loudly, "Where's the toad Harlan? I don't see a toad?" He repeated words to that effect long past when it might have been mildly amusing; instead it was cringeworthy, and I don't know if the woman in question ever knew she was the butt of the joke. I just sat back and enjoyed being in the company of these wordsmiths. Harlan was the star of the show. talking fast and full of energy. Or wired, maybe? He kept hitting on this seeming young starlet sitting at an adjacent table. She wasn't interested, and he didn't give up. The banter was fast and furious and it was in the middle of this that Phil handed me a fat envelope, addressed to me, with a return address of X-Kalay, which had been crossed out and replaced with a typed "Philip K. Dick." Curious, I started to read. Dear Linda, Sitting here, I heard a song on the radio, and it made me think of you exactly: "...This world was never meant For one as beautiful as you. "...Now I think I know What you tried to say to me. How you suffered for your sanity..." Linda, don't go crazy trying to keep up with your beauty. It's like a curse, isn't it, being so lovely. You're fighting to win a race with life, not trying to keep up with it -- like the rest of us do, the less appealing, the less attractive, the ordinary -- but my god sweetheart, you're going to sprint ahead of it and come out rushing and spent on the other side; you're going to win, you're already ahead of it...most of us fight with death, trying to pin it two falls out of three, but I think you're doing that with life. Life, evidently, doesn't want you. It can't stand the competition. A girl so lovely and gentle and warm, so alight with clear humor that reality can't keep up with her -- I see you manufacturing your own reality around yourself to replace it, and your self-created reality is more poignant, more touching and charming: soft tales about dolls, stories by a kind and wistful girl who is really quite lonely...We are all of us, the rest of us, grey compared with you, like gray rain-water...We're like babbling objects around you made of silly putty; we blab away at you, flapping our arms like windmills, but all we do is scare you... And on it went for four more typewritten, singled-spaced pages, ending with: P.S. Linda, I am very much, very deeply in love with you. So this here is what I'd like to ask you: Will you marry me?
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permalink #34 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 5 Jun 24 00:39
permalink #34 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 5 Jun 24 00:39
Gack. I didn't know where to look. Not at Phil, certainly. I wanted to run, I wanted to stay, I wanted to do anything except acknowledge what I had just read. Who does this after knowing someone only a couple of weeks? And how do I get out of this extremely uncomfortable situation? Maybe someone else would have loved it. I was terrified.
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permalink #35 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 01:54
permalink #35 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 01:54
So, Linda, I grok your condition of being at that moment..in other words,Linda, in the blink of an eye, had a fervent fanboy..
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permalink #36 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 02:01
permalink #36 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 02:01
Tim: am in agreeance with your reaction to the laughter in that 1st video,.. I, too, had to bail early on in it when it came to them cats and kitties laughing..although, in retrospect just now, it occurs to me that it was highly anxious laughing so there is that
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permalink #37 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 02:16
permalink #37 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 02:16
Excerpted from #21 above: On the drive I mentioned having read and liked "Time Out of Joint," which drew no particular response, and I asked him if he knew Fritz Leiber (a hero of mine too, Alex!), and Phil just said that Leiber had once tried to rip off his wife. Response So Tim tell us more and are we to conclude that all our heroes have feet of clay? Am taking PKD at his word, here
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permalink #38 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 02:24
permalink #38 of 241: Alex Davie (icenine) Wed 5 Jun 24 02:24
Dont really mean to interject here my comments and queries but talking PKD hits so deep in my wheelhouse that I am unable to moderate my feed If that makes any sense
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permalink #39 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Wed 5 Jun 24 06:11
permalink #39 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Wed 5 Jun 24 06:11
(Just take a deep breath!)
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permalink #40 of 241: Peter Meuleners (pjm) Wed 5 Jun 24 08:44
permalink #40 of 241: Peter Meuleners (pjm) Wed 5 Jun 24 08:44
This might be the best topic on the Well ever. I love reading PKD but I quickly came to the conclusion that I probably would not have enjoyed meeting him. Meeting him in this way, though, is absolutely riveting.
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permalink #41 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Wed 5 Jun 24 08:55
permalink #41 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Wed 5 Jun 24 08:55
Alex, Leiber may or may not have made any move toward Phil's wife. "taking PKD at his word" was always risky. Entertaining, but risky. Feet of clay? I suppose so, a lot of the time -- this dinner Linda found herself in the midst of sounds like the Mad Hatter's Tea Party as written by Ionesco.
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permalink #42 of 241: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Wed 5 Jun 24 09:25
permalink #42 of 241: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Wed 5 Jun 24 09:25
That dinner party sounds like exactly the kind of situation a pretty young girl could find herself in, back in those days anyway. Though most of us didn't receive four page proposals of marriage at the table
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permalink #43 of 241: Andrew Trott (druid) Wed 5 Jun 24 09:50
permalink #43 of 241: Andrew Trott (druid) Wed 5 Jun 24 09:50
That amazing letter raises a thousand questions in my mind. I hadn't realized he hand-delivered it. In the company of others! Did he expect you to read the whole thing right then and there? Did you? Was he just sitting there watching while you read it? Did you get as far as the proposal of marriage, and if so how did you react? How *could* you react?
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permalink #44 of 241: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Wed 5 Jun 24 10:55
permalink #44 of 241: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Wed 5 Jun 24 10:55
The whole money for nothing, chicks for free aspect of celebrity in that era is its own conversation.
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permalink #45 of 241: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Wed 5 Jun 24 10:57
permalink #45 of 241: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Wed 5 Jun 24 10:57
One which I will apparently never stop squawking about
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permalink #46 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Wed 5 Jun 24 11:01
permalink #46 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Wed 5 Jun 24 11:01
(this convo isnt shown on the well front page and am not sure how to direct it to friends NOTW who might be interested) (also appreciating that this is centered on a west-coast public university, not another iteration of 'dink stover at yale')
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permalink #47 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Wed 5 Jun 24 11:18
permalink #47 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Wed 5 Jun 24 11:18
> am not sure how to direct it to friends NOTW See <inkwell.vue.546.13>.
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permalink #48 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 5 Jun 24 11:28
permalink #48 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 5 Jun 24 11:28
<druid>, from response 34, way up there, >> Gack. I didn't know where to look. Not at Phil, certainly. I wanted to run, I wanted to stay, I wanted to do anything except acknowledge what I had just read. <<
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permalink #49 of 241: Bryan Higgins (bryan) Wed 5 Jun 24 12:11
permalink #49 of 241: Bryan Higgins (bryan) Wed 5 Jun 24 12:11
Was Phil staying at your house?
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permalink #50 of 241: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Wed 5 Jun 24 12:40
permalink #50 of 241: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen) Wed 5 Jun 24 12:40
if you'd like to share this fascinating conversation with others, post it to your social feed, etc. -- they do not have to be Well members to read. this link should work: https://tinyurl.com/philipdick and if not, they can use the long version: https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/546/Philip-K-Dick-The-Last-Ten -Years-page01.html the name of the discussion is: Philip K. Dick, The Last Ten Years: A Conversation Between a Dark-Haired Girl and Tim Powers and it comes to you courtesy of The Well community (well.com), our Inkwell conference for text-only discussionw with authors and artists. Inkwell co-host Jon Lebkowsky aka <jonl> will undoubtedly pop in occasionally with more detailed information about how non-Well-members can participate and ask questions of our dark-haired girl and Well member Linda Levy Castellani and her co-interviewer Tim Powers.
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