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permalink #251 of 578: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:40
permalink #251 of 578: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:40
Even the Trump supporters are looking visibly shocked busy their success. They were digging in for a long rearguard battle between now and January 20 against "obvious" moves by Dems to "steal" the election.
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permalink #252 of 578: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:52
permalink #252 of 578: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:52
And really, really not looking close. LBC's lead political presenter Lewis Goodall just posted on X: Kamala Harris is on course for the worst electoral college performance for any Democrat since 1988.
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permalink #253 of 578: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 02:03
permalink #253 of 578: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 02:03
Tony Blair's former communication director Alastair Campbell has told the BBC: "This is one of the most extraordinary election victories and comebacks, I think, in any country in history."
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permalink #254 of 578: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Wed 6 Nov 24 02:12
permalink #254 of 578: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Wed 6 Nov 24 02:12
I agree with that assessment in the sense of where Trump was after Jan. 6th and today, but not in terms of his chances of winning this election going in. Biden dropped out because he consistently trailed Trump, and while Harris kept it much closer, she never led him outside the margin of error. The polls had consistently shown them in a dead heat for weeks.
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permalink #255 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 02:36
permalink #255 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 02:36
It's 4am in Texas, I'm awake and finding it hard to get back to sleep. I have no idea what world I'm in right now. Rebecca Solnit posted this on Facebook. Someone had reposted it on Daily Kos and asked if that's okay - she said it's for everyone, so I think it's okay to repost here. >>> They want you to feel powerless and to surrender and to let them trample everything and you are not going to let them. You are not giving up, and neither am I. The fact that we cannot save everything does not mean we cannot save anything and everything we can save is worth saving. You may need to grieve or scream or take time off, but you have a role no matter what, and right now good friends and good principles are worth gathering in. Remember what you love. Remember what loves you. Remember in this tide of hate what love is. The pain you feel is because of what you love. The Wobblies used to say don't mourn, organize, but you can do both at once and you don't have to organize right away in this moment of furious mourning. You can be heartbroken or furious or both at once; you can scream in your car or on a cliff; you can also get up tomorrow and water the flowerpots and call someone who's upset and check your equipment for going onward. A lot of us are going to come under direct attack, and a lot of us are going to resist by building solidarity and sanctuary. Gather up your resources, the metaphysical ones that are heart and soul and care, as well as the practical ones. People kept the faith in the dictatorships of South America in the 1970s and 1980s, in the East Bloc countries and the USSR, women are protesting right now in Iran and people there are writing poetry. There is no alternative to persevering, and that does not require you to feel good. You can keep walking whether it's sunny or raining. Take care of yourself and remember that taking care of something else is an important part of taking care of yourself, because you are interwoven with the ten trillion things in this single garment of destiny that has been stained and torn, but is still being woven and mended and washed.
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permalink #256 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Wed 6 Nov 24 03:43
permalink #256 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Wed 6 Nov 24 03:43
Just woke up. Wish I could be as articulate as Rebecca Solnit at this moment. Half as articulate.
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permalink #257 of 578: Ari Davidow (ari) Wed 6 Nov 24 04:00
permalink #257 of 578: Ari Davidow (ari) Wed 6 Nov 24 04:00
Thank gopod for Rebecca Solnit, but, for the moment, I am just thoroughly depressed.
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permalink #258 of 578: Kevin Driscoll (driscoll) Wed 6 Nov 24 04:25
permalink #258 of 578: Kevin Driscoll (driscoll) Wed 6 Nov 24 04:25
Thanks for posting, Jon. Heartbreaking.
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permalink #259 of 578: power meower (autumn) Wed 6 Nov 24 05:07
permalink #259 of 578: power meower (autumn) Wed 6 Nov 24 05:07
I will never understand how this person has been elected twice to any office at all.
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permalink #260 of 578: Elizabeth Churchill (leroyleroy) Wed 6 Nov 24 05:09
permalink #260 of 578: Elizabeth Churchill (leroyleroy) Wed 6 Nov 24 05:09
The Solnit words are pretty but kind of vague and Im having trouble figuring out what they actually mean, how they translate into real life. I think theyre meant to inspire me, but to do what exactly? I feel lost and dont have a clue.
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permalink #261 of 578: Rick Brown (danwest) Wed 6 Nov 24 06:51
permalink #261 of 578: Rick Brown (danwest) Wed 6 Nov 24 06:51
You know, I blame the sanewashing. And the racism and misogyny.
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permalink #262 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Wed 6 Nov 24 06:53
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permalink #263 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:05
permalink #263 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:05
I don't think it's clear what this means. I don't understand why a majority of Americans have embraced Trump. Because Trump is so slippery and full of deceit, I have no idea what he'll actually do as President. I've considered a lot of possibilities based on what he's said, Project 2025, etc. Not sure where the guardrails will hold and where they might break. However bad things might become from our perspective, we're not alone. We should especially remember the substantial opposition to Trump from substantial people who still have a voice - including all the conservative Republicans who stood against him. His actions won't be unopposed. And this is still America, with all the American traditions of freedom and justice for all.
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permalink #264 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:10
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permalink #265 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:14
permalink #265 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:14
Yeah, our American traditions are looking pretty tattered right now.
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permalink #266 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:16
permalink #266 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:16
I have thought up some words: It is okay to need to catch one's fucking breath. It's okay to be in shock, to feel dislocated. It's okay to be in dismay or disbelief that so many more US citizens prefer Trump as president. Probably millions of people in the Philippines felt this way when Duterte won, or in Italy with Berlesconi or Meloni, or Brazilians when Bolsonado won. (I choose these comparisons to underscore the recent historical context, as opposed to vaulting all the way back to Germany in 1933.)
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permalink #267 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:31
permalink #267 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:31
This chart is disturbing, every state but two slid right by a little or a lot. <https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:eycg47nc4kycvzgiq3r5h326 /bafkreihmtcqjiznd6d7d62iwa7pdtpl7jjck2h7wgwtxeukns3sw56h4de@jpeg>
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permalink #268 of 578: a (coiro) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:45
permalink #268 of 578: a (coiro) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:45
Thanks, Emily. I'm in leroys position. I can't imagine where we could possibly go from here. I do know this. Hate is a very strong word, but this morning I hate my country.
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permalink #269 of 578: Axon (axon) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:49
permalink #269 of 578: Axon (axon) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:49
Huxley was right. We have amused ourselves right into tyranny. I blame the media. But I'm also perplexed about the vote totals. Bluto got no more votes than in 2020; in fact, about 3 million fewer. And yet somehow, 15 million people who voted for Biden in 2020 couldn't be bothered this time around. That does not pencil. We need hand recounts. It's time for Elias and Bookbinder to go on offense. >this morning I hate my country This is no longer my nation. I am stateless. Plan B starts now.
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permalink #270 of 578: Ari Davidow (ari) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:50
permalink #270 of 578: Ari Davidow (ari) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:50
Poor Ukraine. Poor Palestinians. Poor Israelis. Not just us, and the list goes on.
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permalink #271 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:51
permalink #271 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:51
I find myself wondering whether it was a "free and fair" election, or whether it might've been rigged by Trump's crowd. They worked pretty hard to get control of voting process wherever they could.
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permalink #272 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:53
permalink #272 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:53
> Poor Ukraine. Poor Palestinians. I wonder if those wars were perpetuated by Trump's pals, Putin and Netanyahu, to support the contention that Biden disrupted peace and allowed major wars to happen. If so, maybe they'll end now. Maybe Trump will "heroically" broker "peace deals."
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permalink #275 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:57
permalink #275 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Wed 6 Nov 24 07:57
Here are a few of the things and people I'm mourning for already. What are others grieving for? Maybe it will help to share some of this together, in our community. --- After Trump again pulls the US out of the Paris Agreement, international climate action will get even slower. I will lose the last bit of basis for hoping that the world jettisons fossil fuels fast enough in these final few years available to stabilize the climate. Hundreds of thousands of undocumented people in the US - many of them my NYC neighbors - will be living in fear 24/7 of being imprisoned and deported. Thousands more Palestinians are going to die, and not even a tiny shred of a path to reconciliation or justice will remain for them, or for Israelis. Millions of Ukrainians will lose their independent nationhood, and NATO may fall apart when Putin turns towards attacking Poland or the Baltics. The safety of my queer friends and relatives all queer people. The peace of mind of knowing for sure that my health insurance will continue to cover my cancer treatment.
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