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permalink #226 of 558: Axon (axon) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:26
permalink #226 of 558: Axon (axon) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:26
Simon Rosenberg: >>Friends, we've been through this before in both 2016 and 2020. It is early, votes still need to be counted, as we saw in 2020 our vote comes in late, and Harris has multiple paths to 270. Lots of Dem vote out everywhere. It's hard but we need to be patient.<< https://x.com/SimonWDC/status/1854010462699917527 WOrth remembering that every state called so far for Trump he won in 2020 and still lost that election. Breathe.
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permalink #227 of 558: Larry Person (lperson) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:33
permalink #227 of 558: Larry Person (lperson) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:33
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permalink #228 of 558: b n (ellen) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:36
permalink #228 of 558: b n (ellen) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:36
my thanks, too.
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permalink #229 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:40
permalink #229 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:40
ax, I was hoping you'd come sprinkle some hopium here. Thank you. I suspect I'll be the last one outta here tonight. I expect either bad news by bedtime or no news til morning, so there's no real point in hanging out. But I can't imagine sleeping just now. I'll turn off the lights when I leave.
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permalink #230 of 558: David Turoff (condorito) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:41
permalink #230 of 558: David Turoff (condorito) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:41
Biden won Georgia in 2020; its been called for Trump.
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permalink #231 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:41
permalink #231 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:41
And the Senate is confirmed GOP now.
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permalink #232 of 558: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:51
permalink #232 of 558: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Tue 5 Nov 24 21:51
2020 wasn't called until Saturday.
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permalink #233 of 558: Axon (axon) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:00
permalink #233 of 558: Axon (axon) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:00
>2020 wasn't called until Saturday. Exactly. Let's wait for all the votes to be counted and certified.
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permalink #234 of 558: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:10
permalink #234 of 558: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:10
Our election party guests left early, feeling deflated. I realized that watching the returns tonight was an exercise in futility, so we ended the night watching an episode of "The Rookie," then checking back. Trump does seem perilously close to taking Pennsylvania, but I'm reminding myself that it's not over til it's over.
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permalink #235 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:11
permalink #235 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:11
Another small blessing out of California, via the Sac Bee: "California voters decisively favor Prop 4, $10 billion climate bond The bond marks one of the largest commitments in state history to tackle the fight against climate change and its effects."
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permalink #236 of 558: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:17
permalink #236 of 558: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:17
The last time we passed a big bond for water infrastructure it was used to refit the Oroville Dam. I hope this one also goes to something important and useful, and not to the Delta bypass tunnel, which would be a handout to Big Ag.
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permalink #237 of 558: Tiffany (magdalen) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:18
permalink #237 of 558: Tiffany (magdalen) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:18
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permalink #238 of 558: Andrew Alden (alden) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:20
permalink #238 of 558: Andrew Alden (alden) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:20
I look forward to a Democratic House, at least. The rest of the federal govt, I can't take the suspense.
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permalink #239 of 558: Larry Person (lperson) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:23
permalink #239 of 558: Larry Person (lperson) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:23
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permalink #240 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:28
permalink #240 of 558: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 22:28
I can't bear any more - I'm going to shut down and head to bed.
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permalink #241 of 558: Christian De Leon-Horton (echodog) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:01
permalink #241 of 558: Christian De Leon-Horton (echodog) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:01
I deliberately went to bed last night refusing to look at the election. This morning a friend woke me up with sad news.
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permalink #242 of 558: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:20
permalink #242 of 558: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:20
I read now he may win the popular vote.
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permalink #243 of 558: Drew Trott (druid) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:39
permalink #243 of 558: Drew Trott (druid) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:39
The mind reels.
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permalink #244 of 558: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:59
permalink #244 of 558: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Tue 5 Nov 24 23:59
Hard Hard Hard
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permalink #245 of 558: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 00:32
permalink #245 of 558: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 00:32
Because of the time difference in London, I went to bed not long after the first polls closed but well before any results started to emerge. For some reason, though, I had a weird feeling about how it was going to go just from the mood music up to that point. But I still wasn't braced for what I woke up to. The European media is in shock and gloom. The political leaders also look pale and stunned. It's so against all the polls and predictions going into the election that it's genuinely hard to accept. Really, what's the point of polls when they are this badly wrong? A generation of pollsters and pundits have performed so poorly here that it should be an end to them. An extraordinary outcome, one that no one predicted, not even Trump himself.
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permalink #246 of 558: Christian De Leon-Horton (echodog) Wed 6 Nov 24 00:36
permalink #246 of 558: Christian De Leon-Horton (echodog) Wed 6 Nov 24 00:36
I too did not expect to wake up to this.
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permalink #247 of 558: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:04
permalink #247 of 558: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:04
<what's the point of polls when they are this badly wrong?> I'm not sure what the polls in Britain have been reporting, but here in the States they've reported a very close race for weeks. I think a lot of Harris supporters expected Harris to win because, once again, a Trump win just seemed unthinkable, but even in 2016 the upset wasn't as great as the reaction to it.
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permalink #248 of 558: Richard Lawler (richardl) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:08
permalink #248 of 558: Richard Lawler (richardl) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:08
I woke up after going to sleep at 11. It is 1 am PST Wednesday. They are saying Pennsylvania is lost. There is no path to 270 EV for Harris. It is lost. I am so depressed by this. I can think of no consolation.
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permalink #249 of 558: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:26
permalink #249 of 558: Andrew Lewin (draml) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:26
> I'm not sure what the polls in Britain have been reporting The media here doesn't do it's own polling in the US but it does relay the US polls which have indeed been really tight (with one outlier poll in Iowa a few days ago) and Harris having a possible advantage in the electoral college calculations. But in fact, it's not even close. A clear win for Trump, no need for him to dispute the vote in court or on the streets. Few if any expected that.
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permalink #250 of 558: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:36
permalink #250 of 558: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Wed 6 Nov 24 01:36
Few Harris supporters, anyway.
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