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permalink #0 of 165: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 9 Jan 25 18:52
permalink #0 of 165: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 9 Jan 25 18:52
As we begin a new year in 2025, news reporting is undergoing substantial transformation influenced by technology advancements, changing audience behaviors, and evolving economic models. What's changing: Generative Artificial intelligence is being integrated into newsrooms to automate content creating and personalize news delivery, apparently enhancing efficiency and user engagement. However there are concerns about the accuracy and authenticity of AI-generated content. Traditional news orgs are facing economic challenges, including declining ad revenues and competition from digital platforms. The media landscape is increasingly fragmented, diminishing the influence of legacy outlets. Audience engagement is shifting, mindshare is fragmented, diverse social media and independent creators are becoming primary news sources, especially for younger demographics. Trust in media is a huge issue, with many skeptical of news organizations. A proliferation of misinformation and the perceived biases in reporting have contributed to this distrust. Media need to rebuild credibility through transparent reporting practices, and to engage communities in the process of journalism.
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permalink #1 of 165: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 9 Jan 25 18:53
permalink #1 of 165: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 9 Jan 25 18:53
We've assembled a panel of experts to discuss the state of the news in 2025. They include: Dan Gillmor spent decades in the news media and was technology columnist at the San Jose Mercury News in Silicon Valley from 1994 to 2005. He later taught at Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication. His books about media include "We the Media: Grassroots Journalism by the people, for the people." More about Dan at dangillmor.com/about Wendy M. Grossman is a freelance writer who specializes in computers, freedom, and privacy. She is also founder of Britain's The Skeptic magazine, and a folksinger. Janis Mara has worked at the Oakland Tribune, the Marin Independent Journal, the Contra Costa Times, Adweek and Inman News, an Emeryville-based national real estate trade publication, winning California Newspaper Publishers Association and Digital First Media awards for investigative work, breaking news coverage and education writing. John P. McAlpin is a veteran reporter, editor and newsroom leader based in New Jersey largely focused on politics and public policy. McAlpin has worked for organizations including The Associated Press, The Bergen Record, The USA Today Network and is now the managing editor for NJ Spotlight News, a nonprofit newsroom for NJ PBS/WNET Thirteen. Peter Richardson's publications include books and articles about Ramparts magazine, Hunter S. Thompson, Rolling Stone magazine, and Carey McWilliams, the radical California author and lawyer who edited The Nation magazine. John Schwartz worked for nearly 40 years for The New York Times, The Washington Post and Newsweek, on beats that included climate change, legal affairs, space, infrastructure and business. In 2021 he retired from the Times and began a second career teaching journalism at The University of Texas at Austin, his alma mater. Ben Shapiro is a New York-based documentary maker working in radio and film. For 25 years he has edited and co-produced the Radio Diaries series airing on NPR's All Things Considered, and he recently co-directed with Sam Pollard Max Roach: The Drum Also Waltzes, which premiered on PBS' American Masters and screened worldwide. Paula Span is a veteran reporter and journalism educator, with long stints at the Washington Post and Columbia Journalism School. She has freelanced for a raft of national and local publications, has published two books and is at work on a third, and has written the New Old Age column for the New York Times since 2009. Veteran journalist and author Emily Gertz, an Inkwell.vue cohost, will lead the discussion. Emily has been covering the environment from diverse angles including technology, science, politics, policy, international climate negotiations, nature, religion and pop culture. She is a contributing editor at "DeSmog" and "The Conversation."
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permalink #2 of 165: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 13 Jan 25 16:03
permalink #2 of 165: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 13 Jan 25 16:03
Thanks for joining Inkwell for the second annual edition of State of the News. Soooo much to discuss: What will the big stories be in 2025? We're years and years into predictions/desperate hopes that nonprofit news and news collaborations will "save journalism". So: How's that going? Tippy-top political leaders are generating as well as echoing profoundly destructive disinformation (as well as the less-dire kind). Along with plain old credulousness, the public's will to examine this information and hold people accountable for lies is at a low point. What are effective roles for journalists and news publications amid these crises of truth, trust and apathy? Will US press writ large be able to stand up to intensifying threats and intimidation, particularly now that a majority of us journalists are freelancers with no professional insurance and, probably, no indemnification clauses in their contracts? Signs so far are not encouraging, with even presumably well-insulated entities like Joe and Mika and Zuck and Bezos and Soon-Shiong and Disney bending the knee.
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permalink #3 of 165: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Mon 13 Jan 25 16:41
permalink #3 of 165: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Mon 13 Jan 25 16:41
Lots of avenues for conversation here. Regarding emilyg's last question: When the president and his henchmen and cult followers declared war on journalism they don't like in 2017, the response should not have been Marty Baron's misguided "We're not at war; we're at work" feel-good aphorism. The response should have been to find allies and fight like hell for freedom of expression, and for democracy itself. Most of our traditional journalism institutions couldn't be bothered to lift a finger to do either of those things. Big Journalism has relentlessly normalized extremism. Bending a knee to it is, sadly, not surprising. Now what? We're in for a concerted right-wing campaign to Orban-ize journalism. It's not too late for powerful media companies to fight like hell. Call me pessimistic on that. I'm focusing my attention more on the nonprofits and grassroots organizations. They can't save journalism by themselves, but without them there is zero hope. I'll point to some of them during our extended conversation. They deserve people's attention, and support.
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permalink #4 of 165: someone who just sucked on a dill pickle (wendyg) Tue 14 Jan 25 06:30
permalink #4 of 165: someone who just sucked on a dill pickle (wendyg) Tue 14 Jan 25 06:30
I'll be adding a few to Dan's list. I'd also note that there's a bunch of what used to be journalism going on inside NGOs and academia. I am currently concernd that Elon Musk is using Trump's old trolling playbook to get himself constant attention allowing him to set the agenda in Europe. The good news is that the early results are that his favorability rating in Britain has dropped to -62. Even so, it looks to me like some journalists are falling into the old Trump trap of writing the easy shock-horror story about what EM just said. wg
I feel spoiled here in the media-abundant Northeast. Boston has a decent mainline daily, the Globe - although I note that virtually all non-local news now comes from the NY Times and UPI - the Globe reporting staff is a fraction of what it was. (There is also a tabloid, the Herald, about which I know nothing.) But, we also have hyperlocal publications, including hyperlocal Boston coverage at <https://www.universalhub.com/>, and two, count 'em, TWO web dailies in my own relatively wealthy suburb. That seems widely unusual. How unusual is it? Are we regenerating local news coverage in general, or is it still a vanishing breed?
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permalink #6 of 165: Administrivia (jonl) Tue 14 Jan 25 09:29
permalink #6 of 165: Administrivia (jonl) Tue 14 Jan 25 09:29
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permalink #7 of 165: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Tue 14 Jan 25 09:41
permalink #7 of 165: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Tue 14 Jan 25 09:41
Hi, everybody -- the attacks on the media are only going to get worse in Trump II: This Time It's Personal. As many others have noted, he's back and will surround himself with people who care even less about norms, laws and the Constitution. And he has a number of judges who have suggested it's time to reassess the press protections under NYT v. Sullivan and other case law. ABC settling its defamation case with Trump is a bad sign for all media: <https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/14/politics/trump-abc-news-defamation-lawsuit- settle/index.html> ... along with the failures of the WP and LAT to show any vestige of spine in the face of the coming administration. I don't think we're doomed. But I think we're in for a very rough ride.
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permalink #8 of 165: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 14 Jan 25 10:00
permalink #8 of 165: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 14 Jan 25 10:00
You know that supposed ancient curse (which is probably hooey): "May you live in interesting times." ? For those of us who work in, use or care about journalism, these are way-too-interesting times. I'll note that in just the past couple of days, we can see these disparate forces at play. Take a look at the NYT home page and see what remarkable resources and talent a world-class news organization can throw at a major national story like the LA fires. (Yes, I know people are pissed off at the NYT's political coverage and its opinion writers, but let's put that aside for right now.) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/14/us/fires-los-angeles-california By my very rough byline and photo credit count, the Times had something like 25 reporters, seven photographers, more than a dozen graphic and data people creating maps and charts, and several researchers on the story in the past week. It's extraordinary. I'm sure the LA Times, despite its dismaying rich-guy owner, is doing great work too. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/14/us/fires-los-angeles-california And then yesterday, the latest defection from the WashPost over the indefensible actions of ITS rich-guy owner: opinion writer Jennifer Rubin. The exodus of talented writers and editors, and editorial cartoonist Ann Telnaes (whose work calling out the Trump obeisance of various tech bro including her boss), is dispiriting. I'm one of the Post alums here, and it's sickening to watch. https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2025/jennifer-rubin-the-contrarian-norm-eis en-washington-post/ So rich-guy owners are clearly not the solution to our media woes and it's not clear that nonprofit newsrooms -- a hopeful development, as Dan points out, but most are still pretty small and their funding is not assured -- are either.
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permalink #9 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 10:01
permalink #9 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 10:01
As a reporter in the trenches, I certainly agree about the rough ride. I can tell by daily experience that the media is losing ground: For example, last year when I was working on a story, I was told I could not interview any city officials, but would have to pose my questions to the city's information officer. At the same time, it's apparent that local news coverage is vital, and greatly appreciated. A 3.5 magnitude earthquake hit the city of Concord Sunday, shaking an area full of stores and a synagogue. I called the shops and the synagogue - turned out services started at 8:30 a.m. and the quake hit at 8:49, just as a member of the congregation was about to put on tefilllin for the first time. I wrote a story, and my source, the rabbi, searched and found it online. He texted me, "I saw that the Tefillin made it to SFGate. I shared it with our community. Thank you." https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/update-shaking-reported-but-no-inj uries-or-20030275.php
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permalink #10 of 165: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 14 Jan 25 10:30
permalink #10 of 165: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 14 Jan 25 10:30
I'm wondering if American journalists will become diaspora journalists over the next four years?
The WaPo is sinking deeper into the shit: <https://bsky.app/profile/jamisonfoser.bsky.social/post/3lfnyxnxd2s2k> @jamisonfoser.bsky.social New, from me: The Washington Post Editorial Board previously said these Trump nominees "spread treacherous disinformation, "sabotage democracy," and "parrot false claims about fraud." Now The Post endorses them. referencing tthis column: <https://www.findinggravity.net/p/the-washington-post-just-endorsed> The Washington Post just endorsed 19 Trump nominees. Here are the 5 worst.
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permalink #12 of 165: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 14 Jan 25 11:48
permalink #12 of 165: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 14 Jan 25 11:48
It didn't exactly "endorse" them. It said they were "acceptable." And five, including Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr and Pete Hegseth, were "unacceptable." (As if Trump gives a fuck what the Post says anyway.) But yeah, it's disheartening.
I'm thrilled with this panel. Great job, hosts. Of course broadcast news has its own challenges. MSNBC is having a changing of the guard - Rashida Jones is stepping down. Gift link: <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/14/business/media/msnbc-rashida-jones-stepping -down.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pE4.hTLq.G712A0wFfiJI&smid=url-share>
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permalink #14 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 12:23
permalink #14 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 12:23
Great to hear from a broadcast maven, Angie! It's my impression that newspapers have taken the worst hit? I was thinking TV news is still doing OK?
Meanwhile, Jennifer Rubin and Neal Eisner have corralled the cream of the castoffs and the top shelf substackers (the Venn overlaps) to launch a new multifaceted newsroom destination property a week before the inauguration. Quite an impressive roster and they managed to get it on wheels with minimal leakage. Joyce Vance is adding Democracy Index to the property, an online remedial civics class and vital signs report. Could be a game changer. Their masthead motto "We don't belong to anyone" suggests they are aiming high.
Not Neal Eisner, Norm Eisen!
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permalink #17 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 13:30
permalink #17 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 13:30
Are you guys saying a new online news outlet has launched? What is its name?
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permalink #18 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 13:39
permalink #18 of 165: Janis Mara (ssabrina) Tue 14 Jan 25 13:39
Is this what you mean? The Contrarian? https://contrarian.substack.com/p/welcome-to-the-contrarian
>Not Neal Eisner Doh! Sorry, posted from my phone and working from unreliable memory...
And yes, Janis, that's what I was referring to.
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permalink #21 of 165: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 14 Jan 25 15:47
permalink #21 of 165: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 14 Jan 25 15:47
Jon asks a very dark question: "I'm wondering if American journalists will become diaspora journalists over the next four years?" A "yes" would suggest that Trump will succeed in going full-on Orban or Putin on the nation very, very quickly. That he'll nationalize the media and shut down what he can't nationalize and plausibly threaten journalists with mortal peril on a scale this country has never experienced. So my forecast is: No.
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permalink #22 of 165: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Tue 14 Jan 25 16:06
permalink #22 of 165: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Tue 14 Jan 25 16:06
Re Jennifer Rubing's departure from the Post: This may seem to be a slight tangent, but I believe it's directly related to the future of online news. It's great that Rubin -- whose evolution as a columnist has been remarkable to watch (in a good way) -- moved away from the Trump-nuzzling Post. It's awful that she moved to a platform -- Substack -- that was funded by Trump financial supporters and advocates, and is run by people who are perfectly fine with helping extremists monetize their bile. (Please see this from Casey Newton at Platformer -- https://www.platformer.news/why-platformer-is-leaving-substack/ -- and this from Molly White -- https://www.citationneeded.news/substack-to-self-hosted-ghost/ -- for some further details on why they left.) I do read some newsletters published on the platform (via an RSS reader). But I won't subscribe to or pay for anything there. If Jennifer Rubin and Norm Eisen had chosen any other newsletter platform, I'd already be backing them with my time and money. But they're helping a company I consider bad news to roll up the newsletter space. It's regrettable, to put it mildly, not to mention short sighted. Substack's spending spree on writers will eventually need to be recouped (enshittification on the way), and writers will someday regret taking the easy way. Creators are choosing convenience over (IMO) integrity, or don't check out alternatives. Here we go again.
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permalink #23 of 165: magdalen (magdalen) Tue 14 Jan 25 18:11
permalink #23 of 165: magdalen (magdalen) Tue 14 Jan 25 18:11
well, good luck avoiding enshittification. it's hard to get angry at a writer who wants to make $50 a week being heard out there in the howling chaos. i spent years railing against Facebook and Twitter and the railroading of content, news, information, and conversation -- and especially, against what these platforms and their owners have done to our kids. not sure it matters one whit. the same people who don't like Substack are often the ones who make sure they're still platforming themselves on x, Twitter, TikTok, etc etc. this is a great panel! thanks emily and jon, for setting up this conversation. two questions: 1) if we're so smart -- journalists, skeptics, fact-chasers, academics, thinkers, intellectuals, particularly of a liberal bent -- why are we losing the battle for news and supposedly accurate information? big picture question, here. it's not just "Trump and the rich people are bad." can we analyze ourselves and our own role in this devolution? are we willing to do that? 2) oh, never mind. let's try #1 first. - t. lee brown small-town newspaper columnist in sisters, oregon
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permalink #24 of 165: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Tue 14 Jan 25 18:48
permalink #24 of 165: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Tue 14 Jan 25 18:48
> why are we losing the battle for news and supposedly accurate information? The splintering of mass media, the destruction of local papers, the increasing concentration of radio in just a few hands, the vast right-wing media machine, distrust of institutions, the enormous amount of misinformation, the impact on education of private schools and home schooling where kids don't actually learn factual information or critical thinking; the impact of right-wing religious orgs.
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permalink #25 of 165: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 14 Jan 25 18:53
permalink #25 of 165: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 14 Jan 25 18:53
That's a good list, Lisa.
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