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permalink #226 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Sat 25 Jan 25 16:45
permalink #226 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Sat 25 Jan 25 16:45
> I just wish folks who are spending so much energy and attention on the "Nazi salute" controversy would give it a rest. Musk is also apparently supporting AfD, the far right German party, and meddling in German politics. That the president of the United States is close to someone who is Nazi adjacent is a big, big problem.
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permalink #227 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Sat 25 Jan 25 17:04
permalink #227 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Sat 25 Jan 25 17:04
I said elsewhere that I'd come over with some comments on the state of the journalistic area I am most familiar with. It is a niche area but one that used to be on the pages of most daily papers with dedicated journalists: classical music and opera journalism. We are at a point in this country where I think there are not many full-time classical music/opera writers working for a specific publication. They are Zachary Woolfe at the Times (where editor Joshua Barone is also a regular classical/opera writer), Mark Swed at the LA Times (but everybody knows that Swed is winding down and will retire fairly soon; he's in his late 70s and lost his wife recently), Michael Brodeur at the Washington Post, Jeremy Reynolds at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, A.Z. Madonna at the Boston Globe, Heidi Waleson at the Wall St. Journal (I am not sure whether she is a staff writer or freelance, though), Zachary Lewis at the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Alex Ross at The New Yorker, and hardly any more than that. Pretty much any byline you see other than the ones above is for a freelancer. And a couple of the writers above are supported by funds provided by the late Stephen Rubin (if that funding survived his death) and Gordon Getty. The Bay Area really exemplifies the collapse of classical music journalism. A decade ago, you'd have reviews of important concerts and operas by: Joshua Kosman, Chronicle Richard Scheinin, Mercury News Janos Gereben, Examiner (I remain confused about what this was.) Georgia Rowe, East Bay Times (formerly Contra Costa Times) Allan Ulrich (Somewhere) Somebody from San Francisco Classical Voice Now? Hahahaha. Joshua retired from the Chron last year and now has a weekly newsletter. The Chron did not hire a replacement. Rich was moved to the real estate beat and then laid off. He now writes mostly about jazz as a freelancer. Janos's work dried up. Geogia was laid off and now freelances but is on the verge of retiring. Allan died a couple of years ago. SFCV is thriving. The Chronicle and SFCV now have a deal to publish certain reviews of important performances in both publications, first in the Chron, then in SFCV, the next day. The Chronicle is also publishing unique stories by certain freelancers, well, by ME. I've written five or six stories for them that did not run in SFCV, because I have knowledge that no one else writing for them or SFCV currently has. I'm doing much of their news reportage on SF Opera, for example. (I have to run to a concert I'm reviewing....)
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permalink #228 of 261: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sat 25 Jan 25 18:38
permalink #228 of 261: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sat 25 Jan 25 18:38
what a public service you are providing
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permalink #229 of 261: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Sat 25 Jan 25 23:56
permalink #229 of 261: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Sat 25 Jan 25 23:56
sunbear, your then/now summary really illustrates what's happened in local media over the past generation. Niche journalism -- or at least niche commentary -- is indeed thriving in some cases to replace beat coverage that dried up along with the media companies that used to provide it. The SFCV is a perfect example, and provides a great service for its audience, though I'm not clear on its business model. One big problem for niche sites is Google, which has all too often changed its algorithm in ways that boost trash and demote good stuff, even as it claims to be doing the opposite. See, for example: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/2/24147152/google-search-seo-publishing-housef resh-product-reviews
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permalink #230 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Sun 26 Jan 25 08:11
permalink #230 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Sun 26 Jan 25 08:11
Thanks, Dan. The consolidation in classical music journalism has happened just in the last decade. As Joshua Kosman said - either in an interview or at his retirement party (a public interview by another Chron arts writer), "When everything was in print, we thought classical reviews were being read. Now we have click and view data and know better." SFCV is a nonprofit, launched in...1996? 98? by Robert Commanday, who was the Chronicle's reviewer for even longer than Joshua. (They overlapped from Joshua's hiring to Bob's retirement, because the Chron was okay with having two full-time reviewers and at least one freelancer contributing.) Gordon Getty provided some of the initial funding and I think has continued to contribute. SFCV has ads from many of the major performing arts groups around here and might also have major arts groups as donors, given the comparative lack of arts journalism. In the last few years, SFCV has expanded to include LA; there are usually a few out-of-town reviews (Santa Fe Opera, Bayreuth) annually; there are imitators all over the country.
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permalink #231 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 16:16
permalink #231 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 16:16
There's a digital publication I like a lot, called "I Care If You Listen" that's been covering contemporary classical music for more than a decade. It was a labor of love for all involved from 2010ish to 2020, when it was acquired by the American Composers Forum. https://icareifyoulisten.com/ Has contemporary art coverage has gone the way of classical music coverage? My guess would be yes. In a similar vein, there's a great digital art news outlet: Hyperallergic, an independent publication that is "sensitive to art and its discontents." It was founded in 2009 to shake up and diversify both what's being covered and who's covering it. On the home page right now, there are articles about happenings in Maine, Kentucky, Philadelphia, NYC, Kingston (Jamaica), DC and Boston. https://hyperallergic.com/
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permalink #232 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Mon 27 Jan 25 16:20
permalink #232 of 261: RTFM, people. RTFM. (sunbear) Mon 27 Jan 25 16:20
I'm a regular reader of "I Care If You Listen," which is indeed very good.
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permalink #233 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 16:25
permalink #233 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 16:25
Yay, another ICIYL fan. I've met one of the co-founders of Hyperallergic, and if I remember correctly, they went about this pretty smartly. They developed a revenue stream of advertising from arts institutions, and as the coverage grew, launched a membership program.
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permalink #234 of 261: Emily J. Ge (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 17:05
permalink #234 of 261: Emily J. Ge (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 17:05
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permalink #235 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 17:33
permalink #235 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 27 Jan 25 17:33
(Whoops, sorry about that - I missed a typo and couldn't bear to leave it up.) Today is the last official day of "State of the News 2025." Thank you, panelists, for sharing your time and thoughts here for the past two weeks. Thanks to everyone who's participated. This topic will remain open, and folks are welcome to continue conversing. There's a quote from a journalist-turned-novelist that seems to sum up our two-week conversation: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." We're two and a half decades and counting into the collapse of the old business model. The impact of disinformation on erstwhile news audiences has helped drive the country into this very dark era. We don't know when we'll come out the other side, and there's way too much uncertainty about what'll happen on the way. Yet we're also two decades into enthusiasts and entrepreneurs building back the business. Non-profit news continues to grow. There are still young people determined to become journalists and who apparently are pragmatic about what that'll take. There are still many of us who continue to do the work. I'll wrap up with another quote from that former journalist: "Take nothing on its looks; take everything on evidence. There's no better rule."
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permalink #236 of 261: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 27 Jan 25 17:53
permalink #236 of 261: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 27 Jan 25 17:53
Also: "It was the best of The Times, it was the worst of The Times." "Who Guards The Guardian"? "The end of The World is nigh"
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permalink #237 of 261: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 27 Jan 25 18:08
permalink #237 of 261: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 27 Jan 25 18:08
Thank you for your wonderful hosting, Emily!
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permalink #238 of 261: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 28 Jan 25 03:14
permalink #238 of 261: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 28 Jan 25 03:14
Yes, thanks, Emily! And thanks to all journalists and others who joined the discussion!
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permalink #239 of 261: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 28 Jan 25 06:05
permalink #239 of 261: Paula Span (pspan) Tue 28 Jan 25 06:05
It's been a pleasure. And that journalist-turned-novelist is wise.
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permalink #240 of 261: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Thu 30 Jan 25 00:25
permalink #240 of 261: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Thu 30 Jan 25 00:25
Thank you to all -- this is a conversation that should go on and on...
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permalink #241 of 261: David Gans (tnf) Thu 30 Jan 25 07:01
permalink #241 of 261: David Gans (tnf) Thu 30 Jan 25 07:01
It can and should!
Drop by anytime! We never close!
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permalink #243 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 25 Aug 25 10:30
permalink #243 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 25 Aug 25 10:30
Heya all. There is so much happening in the news industry right now,â that I'm going to take my own conference up on its own rule thatâ conversations can continue past the formal end date of the event. I'll re-open the conversation with this cautiously uplifting storyâ out of Wyoming: - On August 6, News Media Corporation (not to be confused withâ NewsCorp) announced it was shutting down all its publications, whichâ are local newspapers, immediately, - On August 12, three veteran news execs in Wyoming local newsâ announced an agreement to buy all eight papers from News Mediaâ Corporation, plan on rehiring all staff. https://www.wyomingnews.com/news/local_news/veteran-wyoming-news-execs-announc e-agreement-to-save-8-newspapers/article_a4ce23e0-8331-4435-9655-8bc03c920c1c. html
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permalink #244 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 25 Aug 25 10:33
permalink #244 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 25 Aug 25 10:33
The intended focus of "state of the news" is to discuss the industryâ or practice of journalism. Please, no politicking or griefing (such as: no blanket statmentsâ about "the mainstream media"). The WELL's media conf is a good placeâ to share those frustrations â and, dear reader, if you are not yetâ a WELL member, then I invite you warmly to join us!
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permalink #245 of 261: Andrew Alden (alden) Mon 25 Aug 25 16:47
permalink #245 of 261: Andrew Alden (alden) Mon 25 Aug 25 16:47
I hope Wyomingans will give them good support!
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permalink #246 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 07:24
permalink #246 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 07:24
What may be facilitating the deal is that buyers are talking with aâ Wyoming-based news company that owned and operated the papers forâ decades, not a big newspaper chain like Gannett, or private equityâ vultures. My friend Katherine Rowlands bought Bay City News Service severalâ years ago, and took it nonprofit. I don't know whether the purchaseâ situation was similar, but upshot is similar: A local news veteranâ buying a local or regional news outlet. Kind of like how WELL members bought the WELL from Salon, now that Iâ think about it.
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permalink #247 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 07:52
permalink #247 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 07:52
In other industry news that is the opposite of cautiously uplifting,â Trump has again voiced threats against ABC and NBC: Since they runâ "bad stories" about him, it proves they're biased, and he'd be okayâ with the FCC revoking their licenses. Much of the reporting I've seen so far is emphasizing theâ legalities, in that the local stations, the affiliates, have theâ broadcast licenses, not the national networks. (Although theâ networks do own stations in several major markets, I believe.) As this story moves, though, the following analyses should emerge: - Disney, which owns ABC, already appeased Trump by settling aâ defamation lawsuit it would have won. So selling out is not workingâ so well for Disney, and potentially the only people surprised aboutâ that are its board of directors. - This is an escalation of his war to dismantle the national newsâ media. He's made big strides by defunding NPR and public TV. - Chilling the free press? This is more like dumping a metric ton ofâ ice cubes on local station owners (such as there are) andâ management. - How free are local news stations? Sinclair Broadcast Group owns orâ operates nearly 200 local stations that reach 4 in 10 Americans, andâ has already skewed their politial and national coverage to theâ right.
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permalink #248 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 08:31
permalink #248 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 08:31
Oh, I neglected to list under "war to dismantle national news media"â that as part of the administration's approval of theâ Skydance-Paramount merger, both companies agreed to "ensure CBS newsâ and entertainment programming is free of bias and hire an ombudsmanâ for at least two years to review complaints." https://www.reuters.com/business/trump-again-pushes-us-agency-revoke-nbc-abc-s tation-licenses-2025-08-25/
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permalink #249 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 08:41
permalink #249 of 261: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 26 Aug 25 08:41
Speaking a journalist in the online climate and environmental press,â it feels like my kind of work is getting riskier when news companiesâ with the most money and power to withstand this kind of pressureâ capitulate, instead.
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permalink #250 of 261: Ari Davidow (ari) Tue 26 Aug 25 08:49
permalink #250 of 261: Ari Davidow (ari) Tue 26 Aug 25 08:49
It's dangerous both ways - makes it riskier to report the news, andâ makes the news you report less credible when it's compared to whatâ the spectrum of popular media report.
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