I confess I'm disappointed that every news property on cable or OTA is "covering" this abomination. I scolded Rachel on Bluesky that MSNBC, at least, should be running dawn to dusk remembrances of Martin Luther King on his federal holiday. If someone happens to get off a lucky shot, I'm sure we'll get to see the highlight reel. I'm watching replays of the Australian Open in the meantime.
OTOH, Jen and Norm on The Contrarian are live streaming their mockery of this malignant event, so there's that.
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permalink #128 of 167: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Mon 20 Jan 25 09:04
permalink #128 of 167: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Mon 20 Jan 25 09:04
Meidas Touch is showing a feed of just puppies and kittens all day. Also Rebecca Solnit, Bill McKibben and others happening now "The Only Way We Get Through This Is Together". <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf_ydiJ8GLw>
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permalink #129 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:10
permalink #129 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:10
I spent some time watching Solnit's livestream - good thoughts though a bit redundant. This might be a good day for quiet...
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permalink #130 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:27
permalink #130 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:27
It's important news, so of course MSNBC is covering it. If they're not covering it in context, in an illuminating way, though, that's IMO a bad editorial choice. On WNYC this morning, from 10-noon, the Brian Lehrer Show ran audio from its annual MLK Day Jr. Day Celebration event yesterday. THAT was contextualizing the inauguration.
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permalink #131 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:32
permalink #131 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:32
Massive banner headline at NY Times: "TRUMP SAYS HE'LL END US DECLINE." WaPo: "Trump Sworn In as 47th President." NPR: "TRUMP VOWS GOLDEN AGE" Wall Street Journal: "Trump Sworn In, Says 'Golden Age of America Begins Right Now'" The Guardian: "Trump portrays himself as 'saved by God' in inaugural speech announcing slew of hardline executive orders" Financial Times: "Trump vows new 'golden age' for US as he moves to unwind Biden era" USA Today: "A NEW TRUMP ERA BEGINS" The Onion: "Confused Trump Autographs Swearing-In Bible Before Handing It Back To Justice Roberts"
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permalink #132 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:46
permalink #132 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 10:46
How do folks rate those headlines? Here's my take, from worst to best: NY Times WSJ NPR Financial Times USA Today WaPo The Onion The Guardian
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permalink #133 of 167: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 20 Jan 25 11:07
permalink #133 of 167: Alan Fletcher : Factual accounts are occluded by excess of interpretation (af) Mon 20 Jan 25 11:07
Guess who gets all the Gold in the Golden Age.
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permalink #134 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 11:14
permalink #134 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 11:14
Of course the NYTimes is the worst.
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permalink #135 of 167: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 20 Jan 25 11:46
permalink #135 of 167: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 20 Jan 25 11:46
Emily, you left out the punctuation in the NYT hed. "TRUMP SAYS HE'LL END U.S. 'DECLINE'" The scare quotes say it all, I think, and make it a very different hed. The story itself also makes it clear that he then delivered a rant even more unhinged than he did in 2017: "But even more than in 2017, he largely dispensed with lofty themes and the broad unifying strokes favored by most presidents in their Inaugural Addresses, and outlined a series of often-divisive policies." So maybe the NYT hed is still the worst to some folks reading this. But I disagree.
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permalink #136 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 20 Jan 25 12:03
permalink #136 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 20 Jan 25 12:03
That was me, sorry I missed the scare quotes. I agree that it makes a difference. I thought NPR was the worst, and the Onion was the best.
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permalink #137 of 167: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 20 Jan 25 12:24
permalink #137 of 167: POOR TASTE IN KISS-WRITING (jswatz) Mon 20 Jan 25 12:24
Jon and Emily, please pardon my misattribution.
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permalink #138 of 167: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Mon 20 Jan 25 13:12
permalink #138 of 167: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Mon 20 Jan 25 13:12
I like Rolling Stone's headline: Convicted Felon Sworn In as President <https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-sworn-in-47th -president-united-states-1235241770/>
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permalink #139 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 13:49
permalink #139 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 13:49
In light of the scare quotes, the NY Times headline shifts from last to tied with the WaPo. Still, it assumes a lot on the part of the reader.
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permalink #140 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 13:50
permalink #140 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 13:50
Oops: Rolling Stone bumps the Onion down to third place! Okay, I'll stop now.
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permalink #141 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 14:06
permalink #141 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 14:06
So which major USA media outlets mentioned Elon's two nazi salutes at the Nuremberg Rally after the inauguration?
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permalink #142 of 167: Paula Span (pspan) Mon 20 Jan 25 14:24
permalink #142 of 167: Paula Span (pspan) Mon 20 Jan 25 14:24
I think we may be assigning more importance to headlines than is warranted.
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permalink #143 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 14:36
permalink #143 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 14:36
The way people consume news now all the see are headlines and subheads flying by on feeds. Some people -- myself included a lot of the time -- don't click in to stories.
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permalink #144 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:07
permalink #144 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:07
Headline composition is a very important factor in getting people to click the link.
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permalink #145 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:09
permalink #145 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:09
The shitty NYTimes headlines have the opposite effect on me. Also if I have to read more than 9 paragraphs to know something is not a hagiography it is essentially a hagiography.
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permalink #146 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:19
permalink #146 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:19
To your question, Larry: "Elon Musks Odd-Looking Salute Stuns CNN Anchors," reports HuffPost - with video. "Elon Musk Ignites Online Speculation Over the Meaning of a Hand Gesture" - NY Times Also covering: New York Daily News, Rolling Stone, Daily Beast, Wired, Penn Live, Yahoo News, the major mainstream UK outlets...and video of it has gone viral.
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permalink #147 of 167: Emily J. Ge (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:20
permalink #147 of 167: Emily J. Ge (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:20
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permalink #148 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:21
permalink #148 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:21
Thanks Emily. I came here to point out that horrifically shitty NYTimes headline, which could have been from Pitchbot. Needless to say I shan't be clickng through. IT WAS A NAZI SALUTE. THE NAZIS THINK IT WAS A NAZI SALUTE.
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permalink #149 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:23
permalink #149 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:23
From Rolling Stone, which you mentioned <https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-salute-reaction- right-wing-extremists-1235241866/> >>Right-Wing Extremists Are Abuzz Over Musks Straight-Arm Salute Incredible things are happening already lmao, wrote Gab founder and Hitlerbot innovator Andrew Torba<<
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permalink #150 of 167: John P. McAlpin (john-p-mcalpin) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:50
permalink #150 of 167: John P. McAlpin (john-p-mcalpin) Mon 20 Jan 25 15:50
Just getting back and into the conversation, and have a few things to say on the up topic points on non-profits and more, but headlines on news stories are profoundly important now, more than ever. For most people scrolling through on a social site or an aggregator like Apple News, or even those getting headlines as news alerts, the headlines are really just blurring together. It soon becomes "Trump said a thing..." "Somebody said something about Trump saying something..." and each headline becomes less distinct and with fewer and fewer people clicking through. At some point, the person will say, "I heard Trump said a thing..." but because people are so overwhelmed with information devoid of context, it's becoming harder and harder for them to recall exactly what story or what headline they are remembering. Unless, they are deeply interested in the subject itself or it's the amazing headline that pulls them in and they read the story. I said headlines on news stories earlier because I've been looking at heads on social posts, particularly reels or YouTube shorts, in a different way. I can say more later, but essentially if a person goes in knowing the time commitment is only a minute or so, they might be willing to give the story a chance.
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