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permalink #101 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 18 Jan 25 12:29
permalink #101 of 167: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 18 Jan 25 12:29
> Can you share the same subscription with someone in your "apple family" Yes, if you're paying for the Apple One Family Plan, you can share subscriptions.
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permalink #102 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 16:28
permalink #102 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 16:28
Thanks Jon. This is interesting. I ran across it while doomscrolling because I've been unable to do much of anything else today. Tiny News Collective >>Our mission is to support the voices historically excluded from media and media ownership. We provide the tools, resources and community of learning to help people build sustainable news organizations that reflect and serve their communities.<< <https://www.tinynewsco.org/>
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permalink #103 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 18 Jan 25 17:35
permalink #103 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 18 Jan 25 17:35
Thanks for that pointer, Larry. Im reading one of the profiles, of Samantha Carrillo. Whats striking - speaking especially from the pov of having tried to turn a Substack newsletter into a revenue generating venture several years ago- is how much collaboration is involved. It started out as the newsletter of the New Mexico Black Leadership Council, and is evolving into a community news outlet with the help of Tiny News Collective and the New Mexico Local News Fund. Its the antithesis of operations like Patch, which adopt an air of local news but are about diverting community resources (attention, effort, ad dollars) to themselves. Theres a great organization, Local Independent Online News (LION), thats been working in this space as well, for years.
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permalink #104 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 18 Jan 25 18:22
permalink #104 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 18 Jan 25 18:22
On a different topic: I have spent about five hours so far this week hardening my security, and reconsidering my earlier answer to Jons question about whether US journalists may need to flee the country. I still think thats unlikely, but I didnt account for how much federal power the oligarchs could grab over the next year, and use on top of their wealth to bully, pressure and frighten the press.
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permalink #105 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 18:44
permalink #105 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 18:44
I dont think its unlikely. Once the constitution is suspended anything can happen.
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permalink #106 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:16
permalink #106 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:16
So I guess thatd be on of the big stories of 2025.
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permalink #107 of 167: Paula Span (pspan) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:52
permalink #107 of 167: Paula Span (pspan) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:52
Except who would be around to write/record/broadcast it?
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permalink #108 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:54
permalink #108 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:54
The guardian. Signal will be important.
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permalink #109 of 167: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:58
permalink #109 of 167: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sat 18 Jan 25 19:58
re: <63>, this interview might be of interest for anyone who wants to know more about Community Notes, which Facebook wants to copy: The Making of Community Notes <https://asteriskmag.com/issues/08/the-making-of-community-notes> They're talking their own book, so it should be taken with a grain of salt, but I'm under the impression that Community Notes is generally well-regarded, despite all the other crap that happened after Twitter became X. They could still screw it up, but it seems promising that Facebook is going to try to copy something that seems to be working.
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permalink #110 of 167: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Sat 18 Jan 25 20:46
permalink #110 of 167: Dan Gillmor (dangillmor) Sat 18 Jan 25 20:46
Community notes was a very intriguing project when Jack Dorsey was running Twitter, and I had fairly strong hopes for it. Unsurprisingly, the project has gone sour under Musk. Three of the WashPost's tech reporters did a deep dive, and their conclusions (based on data that looks solid to me) are bad news for folks who thought Musk was serious about facts winning out over lies. Here's a no-paywall link: https://wapo.st/4jfjE8d
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permalink #111 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 22:27
permalink #111 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sat 18 Jan 25 22:27
> folks who thought Musk was serious about facts winning out over lies those folks are idiots
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permalink #112 of 167: Matthew Hawn (jukevox) Sun 19 Jan 25 04:51
permalink #112 of 167: Matthew Hawn (jukevox) Sun 19 Jan 25 04:51
For those of you interested in the use of AI in journalism, you might find this report from the Open Society interesting. Their scenario planning approach is provocative and changed my thinking on how I'm approaching AI for creative workflows. "The AI in Journalism Futures (AIJF) project explored how artificial intelligence (AI) might fundamentally transform our information ecosystem over the next five to 15 years. Engaging nearly 1,000 global participants, including journalists, technologists, academics, and civil society advocates, the projects objective was to understand the range of possibilities for long-term impact of AI on journalism using a scenario planning approach. An open call for applications produced short scenarios from 880 participants, from which 40 were selected to participate in a scenario planning workshop held in Piedmont, Italy, in April 2024. This workshop facilitated the refinement of five robust and plausible future scenarios." https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/publications/ai-in-journalism-futures-2 024
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permalink #113 of 167: Matthew Hawn (jukevox) Sun 19 Jan 25 04:55
permalink #113 of 167: Matthew Hawn (jukevox) Sun 19 Jan 25 04:55
Another useful and relevant essay is this one from Matt Webb, one of my favourite tech and product thinkers. He's suggesting that nations need to start thinking about protecting sovereign data sources in the face of a less regulated corporate AI world in the US and elsewhere. He calls it a "Strategic Fact Reserve" https://interconnected.org/home/2025/01/17/facts
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permalink #114 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sun 19 Jan 25 05:16
permalink #114 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sun 19 Jan 25 05:16
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permalink #115 of 167: someone who just sucked on a dill pickle (wendyg) Sun 19 Jan 25 07:12
permalink #115 of 167: someone who just sucked on a dill pickle (wendyg) Sun 19 Jan 25 07:12
I meant to mention the Byline Network (https://bylinesnetwork.co.uk/) of local UK online newspapers. Not sure how old it is; I only just recently stumbled across it. But I know several people contributing to it. wg
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permalink #116 of 167: magdalen (magdalen) Sun 19 Jan 25 11:22
permalink #116 of 167: magdalen (magdalen) Sun 19 Jan 25 11:22
just wanted to throw in a thumbs-up to High Country News, hcn.org . it covers mainly rural issues throughout the West: water, fire, politics, a bit of history, Native issues. nonprofit and very much worth a look, subscription, or donation. a few years back, HCN took a turn for the much more woke (it had always been pretty blue ish). the coverage is often really good, investigative. it does concern me that the superwoke coverage may not be reaching across any aisles. hard to say. as someone who lived in blue bubble cities for many years, but has been in a rural and semi-rural area for closing in on a decade, i wish HCN were required reading for city, suburban, and college-town dwellers.
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permalink #117 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sun 19 Jan 25 11:33
permalink #117 of 167: Larry Person (lperson) Sun 19 Jan 25 11:33
Reaching across the aisle is overrated and frustrating. The other side (MAGA republicans, which is all republicans) have no interest in it unless it's us doing the reaching. Anyway, I'm already following High Country News because I followed all the accounts on this starter pack <https://go.bsky.app/SMBFkU2> >>Independent News Outlets Starter pack by ‪@newseye.bsky.social‬ For those who prefer to get their news away from MSM, here are some major independent, non-profit or citizen-led media outlets. All verified, all valuable. #News<<
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permalink #118 of 167: Paula Span (pspan) Sun 19 Jan 25 14:46
permalink #118 of 167: Paula Span (pspan) Sun 19 Jan 25 14:46
Keeping these nonprofits functioning will be an important mission -- maybe not all of them, but many. So I'm heartened that Columbia Journalism School is raising money for a program that will forgive some part of students' loans if they go to work for a nonprofit newsroom.
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permalink #119 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sun 19 Jan 25 15:41
permalink #119 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Sun 19 Jan 25 15:41
That is very exciting to hear! Half the next class of the the Newmark/CUNY Graduate School of Journalism will attend tuition-free, and they are aiming for the entire school within two years. It is taking a long time to clear the wreckage and build back local journalism, though. I dont get the impression that 2025 will be the year when thatll catalyze across the county.
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permalink #120 of 167: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sun 19 Jan 25 16:58
permalink #120 of 167: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sun 19 Jan 25 16:58
another thumbs up for hcn
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permalink #121 of 167: magdalen (magdalen) Sun 19 Jan 25 16:58
permalink #121 of 167: magdalen (magdalen) Sun 19 Jan 25 16:58
our own Craig Newmark has done some good, hasn't he. after realizing what Craigslist had wrought. is he still on The Well?
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permalink #122 of 167: Andrew Alden (alden) Sun 19 Jan 25 17:23
permalink #122 of 167: Andrew Alden (alden) Sun 19 Jan 25 17:23
He is not, but he was an early member.
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permalink #123 of 167: jelly fish challenged (reet) Sun 19 Jan 25 19:36
permalink #123 of 167: jelly fish challenged (reet) Sun 19 Jan 25 19:36
He used tolive in my Inner Sunset 'nabe, I wonder if he still does. Anyway, righteous human.
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permalink #124 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 08:00
permalink #124 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 08:00
Good morning, all. That said, clearly it's far from a good morning at all for many of us. Amid the tsunami of terrible events that's about to wash over us, I ask that this public discussion, which continues for another week, remain centered on the state of the news, rather than the news events themselves or the people driving them. Thanks much.
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permalink #125 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 08:04
permalink #125 of 167: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Mon 20 Jan 25 08:04
So, as a measure of what the coming weeks and months may be like for many U.S. journalists and publications, Biden's preemptive pardons this morning of people known to be on Trump's "enemies list" bode very badly: "...these are exceptional circumstances, and I cannot in good conscience do nothing. Baseless and politically motivated investigations wreak havoc on the lives, safety, and financial security of targeted individuals and their families. Even when individuals have done nothing wrongand in fact have done the right thingand will ultimately be exonerated, the mere fact of being investigated or prosecuted can irreparably damage reputations and finances. "That is why I am exercising my authority under the Constitution to pardon General Mark A. Milley, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the Members of Congress and staff who served on the Select Committee, and the U.S. Capitol and D.C. Metropolitan police officers who testified before the Select Committee. The issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense. Our nation owes these public servants a debt of gratitude for their tireless commitment to our country."
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