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permalink #51 of 62: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 13 Dec 25 13:19
permalink #51 of 62: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 13 Dec 25 13:19
I spent a whole career as an editor of texts, from rewriting toâ
proofreading. Writing my book and editing/rewriting it used twoâ
distinct sets of mental tools, and it wasn't until I felt my editingâ
brain kick in that I really started to make it sing instead ofâ
ramble.
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permalink #52 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Sat 13 Dec 25 14:51
permalink #52 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Sat 13 Dec 25 14:51
44. Cut 30,000 words
Tony Hillerman's first editor or agent told him to "cut out all theâ
Indian stuff if you want to write mysteries."
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permalink #53 of 62: Charlie Haas (chaas) Sun 14 Dec 25 13:21
permalink #53 of 62: Charlie Haas (chaas) Sun 14 Dec 25 13:21
jreacher, my goodness... I mean, this is why you have to have aâ
pretty clear sense of what you're trying to do, so that the goodâ
notes you get are useful and the bad ones don't lead you astray.
I've learned the hard way that the desire to get something producedâ
or published can be a handicap in this department. A producer,â
studio exec, or editor gives you a bad note, and somewhere insideâ
you it's obvious that it's a bad note, but -- this is the person whoâ
can make it happen! So you execute that note and no one's happy withâ
the result, including you.
Presumably Tony Hillerman walked right out of there. There wereâ
times when I should have followed his example.
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permalink #54 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Sun 14 Dec 25 16:06
permalink #54 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Sun 14 Dec 25 16:06
I share that hope, Charlie. Robert Gottlieb, early editor of Johnâ
Kennedy Toole's "Confederacy of Fools," fooled around so long withâ
the project (lending very little encouragement), that Toole finallyâ
just gave up and quit. When COD was finally published, years afterâ
Toole's suicide, it won a Pulitzer.
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permalink #55 of 62: David Gans (tnf) Mon 15 Dec 25 08:48
permalink #55 of 62: David Gans (tnf) Mon 15 Dec 25 08:48
Dunces, not Fools!
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permalink #56 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Mon 15 Dec 25 08:57
permalink #56 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Mon 15 Dec 25 08:57
Yes
"When a true genius appears... the dunces are all in confederacyâ
against him".
Jonathan Swift
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permalink #57 of 62: Inkwell Co-host, Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 16 Dec 25 08:02
permalink #57 of 62: Inkwell Co-host, Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 16 Dec 25 08:02
Charlie Haas agreed to a one-week discussion of _The Currentâ
Fantasy_, and that week ended yesterday. Thanks to Charlie, and toâ
everyone who contributed questions and comments over the last week.
While we've reached the formal end of our guest's commitment, thisâ
topic will remain open, and it's perfectly find for the discussionâ
to continue.
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permalink #58 of 62: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Tue 16 Dec 25 09:04
permalink #58 of 62: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Tue 16 Dec 25 09:04
Thanks Charlie, it was good to see you here
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permalink #59 of 62: Charlie Haas (chaas) Tue 16 Dec 25 09:11
permalink #59 of 62: Charlie Haas (chaas) Tue 16 Dec 25 09:11
Thanks 1,000,000 to David and Jon for having me on here, and toâ
everyone for great questions and comments. I'll keep checking inâ
just in case people have more thoughts. Anyway, a big pleasure. Mostâ
grateful.
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permalink #60 of 62: David Gans (tnf) Tue 16 Dec 25 09:15
permalink #60 of 62: David Gans (tnf) Tue 16 Dec 25 09:15
Please do stay wtih us, Charlie! And come visit the <movies.> and <media.>
conference,and other discussion areas!
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permalink #61 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Tue 16 Dec 25 10:13
permalink #61 of 62: Ruskin Teeter (jreacher) Tue 16 Dec 25 10:13
It was wholly a pleasure!
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permalink #62 of 62: Tom Howard (tom) Wed 17 Dec 25 00:37
permalink #62 of 62: Tom Howard (tom) Wed 17 Dec 25 00:37
Thanks Charlie and best wishes.
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