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permalink #726 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 5 Oct 00 16:31
permalink #726 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 5 Oct 00 16:31
N-- I agree. Bellairs has the gift of making magic seem not only logical, but matter-of-fact-- which is not to say that it loses its sense of wonder. Susan Cooper does the same thing-- when I read her books I am absolutely willing to accept magic as a fact.
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permalink #727 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 5 Oct 00 17:16
permalink #727 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 5 Oct 00 17:16
From Mary Roane by way of email: In re: the Leonard Cohen stuff: How cool is that? Mary (in the midst of reading ALL of this forum)
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permalink #728 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 5 Oct 00 22:11
permalink #728 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 5 Oct 00 22:11
Len -- Ah. My wife hated Sondheim when first we were married, and then somewhere in there came to love him. I only learned the latter fact after going to the English national Opera SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE without her. ("But you wouldn't go to see Pacific Overtures." "I didn't like him then.") I think I've more or less made it up to her since then -- taking her to the Sam Mendes SWEENEY TODD at the Cottesloe (well, actually she was the one who got up at the crack of dawn to get into the line to get the tickets. But I flew us across the atlantic.) And nope, I'll be on tour for the CBLDF on those dates... Elise -- I think there'll be a bunch of news very soon. Len -- Oh yes. Please do -- I'd love to read it. People keep comparing CORALINE to Bellairs so i really have to read him. I wonder if he was one of those authors who simply never made it across the atlantic...? Scott -- to be honest... no, I don't think we're in for a rennaissance of illustrated books. I wish we were. I think those successful books, whether it's dream hunters or griffin and sabine tend to be sui generis. I've been collecting illustrated books for years -- I wish there were Frank C Pape's and Harry Clarkes out there right now... Yup, the Corn King is lovely. ... Sara -- well, it's nice to know they're there, in theory, even if no-one will ever see them. and Tower of Song is one of those strange songs that I can simply play over and over and over forever. ... Working on the DEATH movie script now, and doing stuff to AMERICAN GODS. GOt a wonderful letter from Samuel R Delany today about the first chapter of American Gods, from which I learned a bunch of things. ... Am I the only person who thinks that Penn and Teller could play a very strange Gore and Lieberman? The VP debates are on in the background, and I'm fascinated -- I think either of these guys would be interesting presidents. And I think both of the presidential candidates are weird blips. ... I'm in New York Saturday for an anime festival -- really just because I wanted to see Mr Amano. http://www.scifi.com/animefestival/panel.html has details...
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permalink #729 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 5 Oct 00 23:45
permalink #729 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 5 Oct 00 23:45
Teller and Lieberman could be relatives, now that you mention it.
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permalink #730 of 1905: -N. (streak) Fri 6 Oct 00 00:18
permalink #730 of 1905: -N. (streak) Fri 6 Oct 00 00:18
Teller and Lieberman are the same person wearing slightly different makeup. This is why Teller never speaks on the record - can't afford to have someone compare voices. This is all going to prove to be Penn and Teller's best trick ever.
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permalink #731 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 6 Oct 00 05:22
permalink #731 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 6 Oct 00 05:22
Gore has that stiff, blocky upper torso thing; my impression of him is that he's trying to walk forwards but an invisible hand is pushing his face back. Initially I thought of Charles Grey in Rocky Horror ("this veep has no fucking neck"), but that monolith quality puts him in Penn's camp. Neil-- Sat. sounds like a good day for NYC: the guiness oyster festival during the day, the anime festival at night? As my grandfather would have said: Nu? What could be bad? If I get to the fest, I'll bring the Bellairs book then. Speaking of Amano, by the way, is there really an animated opera in the works? Open question: apparently about a year ago, Philip Pullman, author of the Golden Compass books (and others) made some unkind remarks in, I think, the Guardian, about C.S. Lewis; I've seen the Lewis camp's response, but never what Pullman actually said. You all seem to know about this sort of thing-- anyone have a clue what I'm talking about?
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permalink #732 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 6 Oct 00 05:23
permalink #732 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 6 Oct 00 05:23
Mary-- Isn't it though?
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permalink #733 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 6 Oct 00 07:15
permalink #733 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 6 Oct 00 07:15
Neil- Very, very jealous about Mendes Sweeney-- how was it?
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permalink #734 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 6 Oct 00 08:56
permalink #734 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 6 Oct 00 08:56
Len -- the Mendes Sweeney was perfect. Drama, not melodrama. The smallest of the National Theatre theatres -- intimate and dark. Easily the best Sondheim I've ever seen. (And better than the Mendes COMPANY, which I saw twice -- once at the Donmar and it was brilliant, and once in the West End, and it had kind of flattened out.) I'm afraid I have no idea on the Pullman Lewis thing. I've been through my own love-hate thing with Lewis several times, first as a reader (ages 6-11) which ended when I realised that Eustace Scrubb's conversion to a dragon was St Paul's blindness on the road to Damascus, and I felt suddenly cheated and lied to; and I didn't come back to the books until I had my own kids, thanks mostly to Mary Gentle's sensible arguments about what kind of fictions narnia is and isn't. I've read the books aloud to my own kids, marvelled at how much of my style as an author is taken from Lewis (who was the first author I noticed with a style) and, mostly, enjoyed them enormously. If it wasn't for the treatment of post-pubertal women in the books I'd like them unreservedly. (Oddly, every time I get to Aslan and the witch walking off together for their chat in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, I expect them to make up completely, come back and kill the children and spend the rest of the book making love, but they never do.)
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permalink #735 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Fri 6 Oct 00 11:58
permalink #735 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Fri 6 Oct 00 11:58
I have seen so little Sondheim live. A quite good regional production of "Into the Woods", a reasonable production of the vexed "Assassins"; and, years ago, a misconceived production of "A Little Night Music", played as operetta by a local G&S troupe. (It did not work. It did not work at all.) But I often listen to Sondheim CDs--
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permalink #736 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 8 Oct 00 09:14
permalink #736 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 8 Oct 00 09:14
I can see Little Night Music being deadly in the wrong hands. The weirdest thing I've ever seen, though, was a youth theatre production of "Assassins" done by a well-intentioned, but clearly out of her mind director. A 12-year old John Wilkes Booth in a fake moustache singing the words, "nigger lover?" The horror...the horror... Went to the NY Anime fest-- saw Neil (hi, Neil!)-- two good movies, one substantial panel discussion (ditched the industry discussion to get a burger at "La Parisienne" Diner. Surrounded by fannish culture... I don't do that often enought.
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permalink #737 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Oct 00 15:53
permalink #737 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Oct 00 15:53
I saw the National production of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC a couple of times -- Judi Dench starred, and delivered the only intelligible performance of "send in the clowns" I've ever heard. She acted, she didn't just sing the words. Went to New York. Got John Bellairs book from Len -- which I read on the plane. Odd, good book with strange Stardust similarities, like the blood-sucking leaves, and the double-dactyls. I found his way of delivering information odd, though.
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permalink #738 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 8 Oct 00 16:14
permalink #738 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 8 Oct 00 16:14
Saw a reasonably good amateur production of 'Into the Woods'. Maybe more gusto than talent but there is a lot to be said for gusto in live performance. By the zillionth run through it can mean the difference between sitting quietly between cues or noisily chewing your limbs off in hopes of mild entertainment - or death from blood loss. Being a stage manager I type a lot of things now with a pencil in my mouth :P
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permalink #739 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 8 Oct 00 16:22
permalink #739 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Sun 8 Oct 00 16:22
If you want to hear something really scary - a few weeks ago I went to a well intentioned high school production of Calamity Jane which lasted for three hours (sadly gusto left early) only to find out after that the Music teacher intends to tackle Les Miserables next year. Oh dear. At least I have 12 months to come up with a good excuse not to go. Like leprosy.
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permalink #740 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Oct 00 18:28
permalink #740 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Oct 00 18:28
On the Bellairs FACE IN THE FROST comment about delivering information, I realise that what I mean is: in the book you get the information as he thinks of it: as it is invented it is put down. And a lot of that stuff, it seemed to me, would have been happier, in second draft, going earlier in the book, or being, well, set-up earlier. On the first draft, you find out what happens. Second draft is where you make it look like you knew it all along.
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permalink #741 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 8 Oct 00 18:52
permalink #741 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 8 Oct 00 18:52
I was lucky enough to see the Judi Dench 'Night Music too-- waited 5 hours on line for tickets. It was worth it. That was the first version I'd seen live, though I've seen that weird movie version, which doesn't work at all. Such an amazing piece... Always particularly loved "Now; Later; Soon" and "Perpetual Anticipation." When I was in HS I did some tutoring on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. Once, passing a window, I spied an actor singing "Later" and accompanying himself on the cello. That's always stuck with me as a favorite NY memory. Neil-The double-dactyls and the blood-sucking leaves are the reason I was absolutely sure that you'd read the book; maybe they're some kind of Jungian archetypes. Don't know if anyone out there is doing the Yom Kippur thing, but if so-- have an easy fast. (Unless you're doing it in New Orleans, in which case, have a Big Easy fast.)
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permalink #742 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 9 Oct 00 12:40
permalink #742 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 9 Oct 00 12:40
Mary Roane e-mails: Sent this on Friday & thought it had posted. So here I go again-Finish well to those of you observing Yom Kippur! M. Well, I finally finished reading the backlog. It was ALL fun reading. I now have another list of books to look for :-) A couple of quick things-WAAAY jealous of the Sam Mendes "Sweeney". Are you going to get a chance to see anything in NYC while you're there for the reading tour? I want to see "Coriolanus" & "Richard III" so badly.....O.K., I admit it's mostly because of Ralph Fiennes, but it DID get good reviews in London. I live in Chicago & if any of you folks are coming for the reading I'd love to meet you. Also if I can be of assistance, please don't hesitate to let me know. My e-mail address is mroane@ttgonline.com (please don't bombard me, it's at work). I was raised in the South & the habit of hospitality is not one I want to get out of, so if I can help y'all find a restaurant, a place to stay, a bookstore, etc., just ask! Way back, Neil, you asked about the origins of the phrase "that's all she wrote". I could have sworn it was biblical, some story about the Crucifixion.......now it'll bug me all weekend! Have a great weekend, all! M.
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permalink #743 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Mon 9 Oct 00 12:44
permalink #743 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Mon 9 Oct 00 12:44
Mary-- Have you seen the Steppenwolf prod. of Ballad of Little Jo?
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permalink #744 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 10 Oct 00 00:37
permalink #744 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 10 Oct 00 00:37
Mary -- no, I won't get a chance to see anything. I'll get in to NY, and then go and have dinner with the auction winners. (Originally the way the CBLDF had planned it, they were just going to come out to whatever all night diner the mob of us stumble out to after the show, with me sitting in the corner and Not Talking Much. But when people started bidding into the thousands for the dinner, Chris Oarr made it a Real Dinner the night before.) Then the next night it'll be My Show. Then away. Len -- I can't imagine that Double dactyls are jungian, although I'm sure the bloodsucking leaves are, although Moorcock did them before either Bellairs or me. Just did a long, fun late-night radio interview on WGN about the CBLDF and the Chicago reading on Monday night.
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permalink #745 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 10 Oct 00 05:00
permalink #745 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 10 Oct 00 05:00
Neil-- After the show, the mob of you should stumble to Uncle George's in Astoria for barbecued lamb. Open 24 hours and retsina on tap-- how can one say no?
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permalink #746 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 10 Oct 00 07:10
permalink #746 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 10 Oct 00 07:10
(I don't want to sound pushy-- I'm just very pro-Astoria.)
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permalink #747 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 10 Oct 00 17:25
permalink #747 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 10 Oct 00 17:25
Hiya- Neil, I just saw the photo of you and Mr. Amano on the Slush Factory website and I must say that your hair looks pretty nifty. It is, um, short. Someone mentioned Yom Kippur... We drove down to Rochester last weekend for services at the synagogue there. I played the second Kol Nidre. I think it was awful... I couldn't get my violin to stay in tune and it was making funny wobbling noises. No one else seemed to notice it, but I did and that's all that really matters. I'm going to perform it again at a master class at the studio where I take lessons. Hopefully it will be easier then. I didn't fast for Yom Kippur at all. Basically, I don't consider myself Jewish. I know that's something I'm really not supposed to say, etc, etc, etc. I had a Bat Mitzvah almost a year ago (13 Nov. 1999) but I have changed a lot since then and I simply do not agree with Judaism anymore. My parents think I am an awful person for this but I can't change the way I think, or at least I don't want to. -shira
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permalink #748 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 10 Oct 00 17:27
permalink #748 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 10 Oct 00 17:27
Oops, forgot to say... that was emailed by Shira....
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permalink #749 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 10 Oct 00 18:11
permalink #749 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 10 Oct 00 18:11
Shira-- My brother-in-law is a confirmed athiest, but he plays trumpet at church services all through the Xmas and Easter seasons. That's where the money is. It's made him see the experience of organized religion as theatrical, rather than spiritual. Come to think of it, my collaborator is also a confirmed athiest.. and he works in the music publishing arm of a major Christian organization.
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permalink #750 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 10 Oct 00 18:59
permalink #750 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 10 Oct 00 18:59
Shira -- well, it's not actually quite as short as it looks in that snapshot, honest. And I must be the only person who gets red-eye through dark glasses. The trouble is, that deciding not to be Jewish any more is part of a fine old jewish tradition, and merely moves you from one box to another. And being Jewish is so much about culture, cultural history, and tradition -- not to mention that it's not something you necessarily get to pick for yourself. I was astonished at how many sites there are out there listing all the prominent Jews in entertainment, I assume to make sure that, if they ever get the camps going again, they'll know where to send William Shatner, John Stewart and me. I doubt that my saying "I don't consider myself to be Jewish' would get me off those lists -- and if anyone goes to the trouble to put me onto one of those lists, I'd hate to give them that satisfaction.
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