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permalink #1401 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 8 Dec 00 13:55
permalink #1401 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 8 Dec 00 13:55
Thanks for your congratulations... if, as Reg points out, I don't wind up in Salman Rushdie's spare room, it should be enormously fun to do. There are many Ramayanas, after all, and this will be a 100 minute one... Daniel -- it's the story of an exiled prince whose wife is stolen by a Demon King, and who goes to war to get her back. Michelle -- so what music did you find? Jinx -- Do you mean the SAG strike that just finished, or the next one? Or the WGA strike? Len -- I know what I'd like musically, and it'd be closer to Cornershop that Steven Schwartz (I spent an evening with him a long time ago, in a transvestite bar in Soho. Honest. He's a friend of my friend Anne bobby.) But we'll see... Mimi -- let me know how the translation reads.
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permalink #1402 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 8 Dec 00 17:23
permalink #1402 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 8 Dec 00 17:23
Neil-- I'll bet that Schwartz was a lot more fun when he spent time in transvestite bars; these days he's so earnest. Love Godspell, though. Ever since Howard Ashman died, I think there's been a real dearth of good songs for animated musicals... a pity, with all the good, starving musical theater writers in the world. The Cornershop idea is dead on.
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permalink #1403 of 1905: Jinx with cats in the ceiling (jinx) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:14
permalink #1403 of 1905: Jinx with cats in the ceiling (jinx) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:14
Neil~ I meant the possible impending strike. With Hollywood rushing to finish movies before March, do you think that any of the projects you're involved in will come to fruition? Jinx who now has ceiling tiles falling and has to go or would get into more detail
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permalink #1404 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:15
permalink #1404 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:15
Ooooh. If I committed some terrible don't-insult-a-person-with-whom-the-person-to-whom-you're-talking-has-spent-an -evening-with-in-a-transvestite-bar faux pas, please forgive me.
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permalink #1405 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:16
permalink #1405 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:16
Jinx-- Good luck with the tiles! Why do you have cats in the ceiling?
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permalink #1406 of 1905: Jinx with cats soon to go the the chinesse resturant (jinx) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:56
permalink #1406 of 1905: Jinx with cats soon to go the the chinesse resturant (jinx) Fri 8 Dec 00 19:56
Len~ I have to very cute and very much pain in the butt cats (see link) http://sites.netscape.net/tjcarlosn/homepage I also have a drop ceiling with a few tiles missing, due to running cable wires. Well the little :gritted teeth: darlings have found a way to climb up and explore around up there, only one of them is rather, well since she can't read, fat and keeps falling through the ceiling. It's not the most pleasent thing to wake up to, rather a start to say the least. Jinxie who also had 2 other cats and 2 dogs living with her as well
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permalink #1407 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek who is reading too much Kafka now. (whispered) Sat 9 Dec 00 01:06
permalink #1407 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek who is reading too much Kafka now. (whispered) Sat 9 Dec 00 01:06
Cats in the ceiling, wolves in the walls. What's next, giraffes in the halls? Eh. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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permalink #1408 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sat 9 Dec 00 09:42
permalink #1408 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sat 9 Dec 00 09:42
moles in the moldings rats in the radiators ewes in the eaves cornish hens in the cornices skunks in the sconces gibbons in the gables
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permalink #1409 of 1905: Randi (randi-ilene) Sat 9 Dec 00 12:45
permalink #1409 of 1905: Randi (randi-ilene) Sat 9 Dec 00 12:45
and unicorns in the snow covered landfill. (no one would ever look for them there, after all). FWIW, they taped Izzard's "Circles" at Town Hall a few months back (I think for HBO). Brilliant stuff, different tone than "Dressed to Kill" or "Unrepeatable" or the rest. Unfortunately, about an hour and a half into the program the sound on the wireless mic went out. They switched to a stationary microphone (and he did a funny bit to seque the switch), but that too went dead. He seemed more amused and embarassed than angry or nervous about the difficulties, and included the audience as well as the crew in his verbal wanderings while they were trying to get the sound back up. Eventually, he sent us all out for an intermission (much to the delight of the deli owner on the corner, who had been trying to close his shop), and about a half hour later, the wireless was up and running again, to much applause. Sadly, all the difficulties meant that to get the show done by midnight, the second half of the show was done at about 100 mph, and the routines felt rushed. Sorry, just rambling. What is it about Neil Gaiman conferences and discussion groups that makes it so difficult to keep on topic anyway?
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permalink #1410 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sat 9 Dec 00 12:51
permalink #1410 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sat 9 Dec 00 12:51
Sorry, was there a topic? :)
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permalink #1411 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Sat 9 Dec 00 19:57
permalink #1411 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Sat 9 Dec 00 19:57
Japanese version of The Dream Hunters: Sandoman Yume no Karibito - Doriimuhantaa - (The Sandman "The Dream Hunters") Publisher: Interbooks Co. Ltd. ISBN4-924914-33-9 C0979 Author: Niiru Geiman (Neil Gaiman) Art: Amano Yoshitaka (Yoshitaka Amano) Translation: Yumemakura Baku (Baku Yumemakura) The publisher has a website at: http://www.interbooks.co.jp/ and a Sandman site at http://www.interbooks.co.jp/sandman/index.html (Japanese language site) You can't order books from them, but they recommend http://www.bookservice.co.jp/order3.htm for book orders. They do seem to deliver overseas, but the whole site is again in Japanese... ^_^; Neil - FYI, there's a Reader's Voice corner at the Interbooks site for Sandman, generally filled with 'Please publish the translated Sandman series through to the very end!' (they're up to Dream Country) and 'We're so glad to be able to read Sandman in Japanese!' comments. ^_- You've got fans there too! And will let you know how Dream Hunters read once I'm done with it. Michelle - glad you were able to make it to Kyoto! To get a flavour of Japanese history/culture, I'd take Kyoto over Tokyo any day. :P Sarah - Kafkaaaaaaaaaa~~!!! *hearts* Len and Randi - Community effect?? ^_- -- Mimi
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permalink #1412 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 9 Dec 00 21:09
permalink #1412 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 9 Dec 00 21:09
Neil - Stuff I found and stuff that actually was used are two very different stories. What I found included some Tori, Sarah Brightman, Grandaddy, Mira, Sophya, Rasputina, Bonzos, Danny Elfman, more Danny Elfman, and just when you thought you couldn't take it any more, yet more Danny Elfman, and tons of upbeat classical bits, featuring Waltzes (mostly Tchaikovsky), minuets, and a couple Brandenburg Concertos. What got played were a few classical pieces (mostly Mozart), stuff from Edward Scissorhands, and the Princess Mononoke theme (inst), along with a bunch of Tear Garden and LPD and whatever else Fernando found in his cd books and off Napster. Then the band (the Rosin Coven) played. AWESOME show. You don't get much better than a man in tophat and tails playing xylephone while a chick in a corset pumps the accordion, all with the rest of the band (9 or ten of them total) going just as nuts on stage, getting the crowd to scream along to Gorey stories. There was also a fire performance that I took lots of pictures of, and many beautiful and zany costumes that I didn't take enough pictures of. When I get my cd cataloging project done at home, I'll put everything up on my website. Gimme a week. -squeaks, who found many other Gorey-ish clothing options after the fact.
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permalink #1413 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 9 Dec 00 21:13
permalink #1413 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 9 Dec 00 21:13
Len - Gnus in the niche? Mimi - I tended to not think much of Tokyo just because I always went there to visit my family. It's like not really seeing much of the attraction of San Francisco when you've always lived there. Now that it's been so long since I've been, I'd just be happy with seeing the airport again. And I *know* that there is countryside and scenery in Japan, I've just yet to see it. It's probably my next *big trip* after Oz. -squeaks, watching Princess Mononoke with a hip-hop soundtrack blasting from the downstairs neighbor... doesn't work at all.
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permalink #1414 of 1905: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Sat 9 Dec 00 22:09
permalink #1414 of 1905: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Sat 9 Dec 00 22:09
Hello all! Back from Kyoto and there are 75 (!!!!) new messages in this conference. Bliss. Mimi: Thanks for the info on ordering Dream Hunters in Japanese... I tried scouting around on amazon.co.jp but (though it will display them) I can't type Japanese characters on my computer so I couldn't do a search. Looks like now I'll be able to buy myself another Christmas present. Michelle: I want your job. Or at least your fashion sense. Definitely please please put up the pictures so we can see them.
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permalink #1415 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek, secretly wanting to be an etymologist. (whispered) Sat 9 Dec 00 23:21
permalink #1415 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek, secretly wanting to be an etymologist. (whispered) Sat 9 Dec 00 23:21
Emily - Welcome back. One of these days I need to learn Japanese. And German. And Greek. And why not throw Sanskrit in there while we're at it. Mimi - Kafka is such a Cool Writer. So sad and tragic. Died young and beautiful, all that. :p And that's not even getting into the writing itself. As I read him, I often feel his imagined presense behind me, clucking away. "Max, you bastard, those were meant to be burned." :P Michelle- Yay for LPD and Tear Garden. I adore Edward Ka-Spel. I envy you for getting to see the Dots live too; they were in Minneapolis *with* Dead Voices On Air over the summer, and alas, 'twas an ID show. *Kicks 1981* And and attempt to get back to the topic, let me toss my congratulations on to the pile, and ask a silly little question I've always sort of wanted to ask. Neil, what word processing program do you prefer?
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permalink #1416 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:18
permalink #1416 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:18
Sarah - I don't really think there is a topic here. And while we're talking about things I don't think, I don't think there is a word processing pgm I prefer any more. I liked word perfect up to 5.1, and now use word perfect just because I have files in wp 4.2 (and even a few in 4.0) which word perfect reads best, but there's nothing out there for *writing* on any more, in the way that Final Draft is for writing scripts. Michelle -- it sounds wonderful. Emily -- if you type Sandman on Amazon.co.jp it takes you to all the Sandman books... Mimi -- that's astonishingly helpful of you. Thank you so much. Len -- not at all. I barely know the guy -- he's a friend of my friend Anne's and we watched a strange Soho show together. I think as a songwrititer he's, at best, uninspired. Jinx -- re Hollywood. Oh, I never worry about whether Hollywood things will happen, strikes or no strikes. If they do, that will be nice. If not, the money subsidises the stuff I *do* make happen. And the oddness with which things do and don't happen -- look at Terry Gilliam, whose Don Quixote went belly up during shooting when the actor fell off his horse, and who is now hard at work on Good Omens as a prime example...
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permalink #1417 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:26
permalink #1417 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:26
By the way, who suggested the Sandman in his globe as in Sandman #1 snow globe idea? When DC shot down the Delirium idea I suggested the naked Sandman idea, and it got a thumbs up...
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permalink #1418 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:30
permalink #1418 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:30
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/1997-06-05/feature.html/page1.html is the single coolest, strangest and most odd thing I've read in ages. Go and read it.
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permalink #1419 of 1905: shira burton (whispered) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:50
permalink #1419 of 1905: shira burton (whispered) Sun 10 Dec 00 21:50
Neil... that's fascinating. It made me want to cry. It kind of reminded me of what little I saw of the Candyman... just the idea of urban folklore. Oh... you were in my dreams last night. I saw you somewhere and for some reason my brother and I couldn't go home, so you said we could go to your house. When we got there, it wasn't like what I've seen of your real house (in Faces of Fantasy)... it was small and dark and very cluttered and in the city. I looked through your books and my brother did something on your computer. After awhile, my brother and I left. The rest of the dream involved going on a plane to Egypt with some of my neighbors. They had a ton of drugs, and I was worried we were going to get caught. I remember asking how they planned to hide 18 lbs of cocaine.. they said it was 'well-concealed.' I tend to have really, really strange dreams, and I often remember them. My ex-boyfriend thinks if I got more sleep I might not remember my dreams as much. Who knows. Sorry this is so long. Everyone check out the band Man or Astroman? ! -shira
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permalink #1420 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 10 Dec 00 22:39
permalink #1420 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 10 Dec 00 22:39
I think it was first suggested by streak in post 1175.
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permalink #1421 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 10 Dec 00 22:56
permalink #1421 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 10 Dec 00 22:56
Neil - Wow, awesome link! Um, Sandman globe idea... far as I can tell we discussed it on afn-g years ago when they were talking about the Death Action Figure. Don't remember who brought it up here tho'. Is it going to come with the helm, ruby and bag o'sand just out of Dream's reach? :D Shira - Man or Astroman... hmmm. Guess I'm more in a Built To Spill sort of mood... and Grandaddy (but you already knew that). -squeaks who now has a Dolores, a Sorrow, and a Danni to add to her mousey family. Dolores & Sorrow are even twinlike!
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permalink #1422 of 1905: -N. (streak) Mon 11 Dec 00 01:25
permalink #1422 of 1905: -N. (streak) Mon 11 Dec 00 01:25
Yes, I was the guy who suggested the naked, captive Dream. So DC's going ahead with it? Sweet. I haven't felt this Ubergeeky since Astro City ran the photos of me as Jack-In-The-Box confettiing Kurt Busiek. :-)
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permalink #1423 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Mon 11 Dec 00 05:37
permalink #1423 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Mon 11 Dec 00 05:37
Congrats to Streak! You're a credit to Geek Culture.
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permalink #1424 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Mon 11 Dec 00 17:59
permalink #1424 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Mon 11 Dec 00 17:59
technically speaking, don't you have to eat live animals to be a geek? -squeaks, who has always preferred the term 'nerd'. ;-P
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permalink #1425 of 1905: -N. (streak) Mon 11 Dec 00 21:10
permalink #1425 of 1905: -N. (streak) Mon 11 Dec 00 21:10
I use geek for someone deeply devoted to a given subject, to the point where they know way too much about it, and spend a lot of their time on it. Thus, you get comic book geeks, film geeks, kung fu geeks, computer geeks, etc. Having been picked on in junior high school is also implied. Nerd is just the kid who studied really hard and got straight A's instead of having a social life.
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