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permalink #1426 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 12 Dec 00 00:50
permalink #1426 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 12 Dec 00 00:50
So will streak be getting one in the mail from DC?
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permalink #1427 of 1905: -N. (streak) Tue 12 Dec 00 01:40
permalink #1427 of 1905: -N. (streak) Tue 12 Dec 00 01:40
Please? :-)
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permalink #1428 of 1905: Randi Mason (randi-ilene) Tue 12 Dec 00 09:45
permalink #1428 of 1905: Randi Mason (randi-ilene) Tue 12 Dec 00 09:45
Oh, that's neat, Streak! wrt the Miami New Times article - wow. Where did you find that article, Neil? No comprehension how children could turn a world as devoid of beauty and full of violence as the streets of Miami into such poetry. Sad that there's more hope in their folk tales than in the truth of their lives. Do we all survive through storytelling? Did anyone here tell tales to themselves to explain what was happening to them in their families or with their peers when they were kids? I used to think all children told their own myths, but I'm more I interact with my mother's students, the more I doubt it. Then again, most of the kids she works with don't know fairy tales or even nursery rhymes, so perhaps they could do so, but don't have the language. Or do you believe that the ability to make up stories is inate? -randi
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permalink #1429 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 12 Dec 00 12:23
permalink #1429 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 12 Dec 00 12:23
Streak -- I doubt it. I find it hard enough to get the stuff out of them I'm contactually meant to get... I'd sneak a thank you onto the packaging, but they don't let me near the packaging any more (not since the very first Sandman statue, which has the short story on the side of the box). In the meantime, take my personal thanks -- and keep your fingers crossed that it's as good as we hope... Randi -- I'm reminded of Iona and Peter Opie's studies of children's games, where they'd go to schools and be told that there weren't any kids games being played, by the teachers, then go out into the playground and discover that the apparant chaos consisted of several sets of games, all being played at the same time, some with rules that went back hundreds of years. I think storytelling is innate. Sometimes the stories tha are told are to oneself. ... Feeling bright about the second draft of AMERICAN GODS right now. It's shaping into a very good book, I think. And will be done very very soon, and off to my publishers.
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permalink #1430 of 1905: -N. (streak) Tue 12 Dec 00 14:54
permalink #1430 of 1905: -N. (streak) Tue 12 Dec 00 14:54
I'll take the thanks and just shell out the bucks for the object myself. :-) As to American Gods, I'm glad to hear it's going well, as I'm quite excited to see it. I enjoyed the excerpt you read enormously.
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permalink #1431 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Tue 12 Dec 00 19:01
permalink #1431 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Tue 12 Dec 00 19:01
Happy Christmas Everyone! I am signing off for two weeks as I, my beloved, and our 16 yo car head home to Queensland for Christmas! (I have been told that expecting a car of this age to survive the 21hr drive to get there and then 21hrs to come back is being fool hardy, I personally prefer to think of it as optimism.) I hope everyone enjoys a festive season filled with good cheer, good will and a decent bottle of wine! Ciao, Ancient-booer
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permalink #1432 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 12 Dec 00 20:53
permalink #1432 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 12 Dec 00 20:53
Here's one of two e-mails I found lurking in my mailbox. First, from mary Roane: Quickly--blizzard here, being sent home from work (yippee!) Be safe, all of you! Neil--My friend Mark, whom you met at Humanities festival (he was sooo excited about Ramayana) says there's an animated version that was released in India only. He's never seen it, only heard about it from friends who saw it there. He's heard that it was done in anime style. He wanted me to let you know, in case you wanted to see it. Mary (still reading Anne Rice)
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permalink #1433 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 12 Dec 00 20:53
permalink #1433 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 12 Dec 00 20:53
And second, from Daniel Loft: Neil -- Any idea where I could get ahold of those studies by the Opies? I enjoyed the article a lot and would like to read more along those lines. And the snow globe sounds neeto. Also glad to hear the book's working out well. Can't wait to read it. Daniel
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permalink #1434 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek, freezing. (whispered) Wed 13 Dec 00 10:33
permalink #1434 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek, freezing. (whispered) Wed 13 Dec 00 10:33
The Miami New Times article was quite powerful in a unexpected way. When I tried to write my response to it, I accidently started an essay. Where I grew up, Bloody Mary lives in a primeval bit of forest and haunts our town with Chief Hole-In-The-Day, a local bit of history. I think it sits to prove that storytelling is really part of the ecosystem of humanity.
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permalink #1435 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 13 Dec 00 15:12
permalink #1435 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 13 Dec 00 15:12
Daniel -- I'm not sure what of the Opies is in print. You might want to search the remainder book sites first... There's nothing they wrote I've read that is without value. ... My first CBLDF board meeting, today, on the phone. One thing that was apparent was that the Texas case -- which we finally won -- was an enormous money drain. So... if you want any Xmas stuff that the CBLDF sells, go and buy it. (www.cbldf.org) If you want to go on the cruise next year (with Scott mcCloud, Harlan Ellison and all manner of exciting people) go to http://www.cbldf.org/pr/cruise/2001cruise.shtml and sign up If you aren't a member, go to http://www.cbldf.org/membership.shtml and join -- and, most of all, spread the word. Get friends to buy memberships. Get your rich friends to go on the cruise and take you with. Tell the online communities you belong to. (And feel free to copy this if you feel the urge.)
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permalink #1436 of 1905: -N. (streak) Wed 13 Dec 00 15:49
permalink #1436 of 1905: -N. (streak) Wed 13 Dec 00 15:49
Neil, another geeky Sandman question if it's all right. I've always been fond of Johanna Constantine, and I've always wondered why she's buried on that nice little Greek island where Orpheus's head is. Rereading _Brief Lives_ (and noting that as of the latest edition, the coloring error with Delirium's eyes being different colors the _one time they're not supposed to be remains unfixed) it occurs to me that she attempted to visit Orpheus's head in her old age and was killed by the guards. Is this the case? If so, was it meant to be obvious and I'm just slow on the uptake?
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permalink #1437 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 13 Dec 00 17:13
permalink #1437 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 13 Dec 00 17:13
The library called last night and said that more of my Sandman's had made it across the bridge!! Can you believe how long it takes?? Gonna pick them up this weekend...
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permalink #1438 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 13 Dec 00 18:50
permalink #1438 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 13 Dec 00 18:50
(begin rant) It's simply not fair that the year the cruise takes off from NEW ORLEANS and has nifty people on it like Scott McCloud & Harlan Ellison (and probably a lot of other interesting people whom I would love to meet) would be the same year I'm trying to *save* my money so that I can go to Australia, so I can't go. It's bad enough I've postponed getting my new car because I bought a pretty knife... Simply not fair at all. (end rant) -squeaks, who needs to hurry up and get discovered or win the lotto or something so she can do all the silly things she'd like to do in life.
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permalink #1439 of 1905: Jinx paging thru issues (jinx) Wed 13 Dec 00 22:58
permalink #1439 of 1905: Jinx paging thru issues (jinx) Wed 13 Dec 00 22:58
N~ there are no geeky Sandman questions. Johanna Constantine is one of my all time favorite fictional women. And to give you a short answer so you don't have to wait, she rescued Orpheus's head, and her burial there is a place of honor. Squeaks~ Tell me about it, this grown-up stuff is killing me, I lied being broke better, I didn't ahve anything to save. Neil, the Piece form the Miami New Times article, brought tears to my eyes and a lot of joy and hope as well. To see the faith these children have is amazing, thank you for passing it along, it was inspiring. Jinxie
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permalink #1440 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 14 Dec 00 00:17
permalink #1440 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 14 Dec 00 00:17
Well, I know she rescued the head, but I'm just curious as to whether she actually managed to die of old age (seems unlikely for a Constantine) and then had her corpse shipped from England to Greece in 1859, or whether for whatever reason she actually died on the spot. Given how her travels with la cabeza seemed to linger with her, it wouldn't surprise me at all if she went back for a visit in her twilight years. Maybe she died quite happily listening to Orpheus sing, but given that she's a Constantine my personal suspicion would be that she was gunned down in the darkness. I guess I just sweat the details as to her honored burial. :-)
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permalink #1441 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 14 Dec 00 06:12
permalink #1441 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 14 Dec 00 06:12
I had a mixed reaction to the article... I found it fascinating and, in fact, printed it up and gave copies to some of my friends and fellow teachers. I do wonder, however, if the article is entirely on the level. Not that I think the journalist made up the stories, but the article, to me, has a kind of manipulative tone, and because the stories are undocumented until now, something feels unsubstantiated. Again, this is only a feeling-- and not a very strong one-- but there's an orientalist tone to the piece that I find weird. On the other hand, I find part of me believing in the Blue Lady now (I wonder if she's a manifestation of the Blue Fairy who helped Pinnochio)-- the stories have that same quality that Sandman has-- there's something true about them.
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permalink #1442 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 14 Dec 00 08:40
permalink #1442 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 14 Dec 00 08:40
Anywhere I could find this article online?
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permalink #1443 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Thu 14 Dec 00 11:26
permalink #1443 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Thu 14 Dec 00 11:26
Streak - Neil posted the link a bit earlier: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/1997-06-05/feature.html/page1.html
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permalink #1444 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 14 Dec 00 23:50
permalink #1444 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 14 Dec 00 23:50
Wow, nice article indeed. I remember the Bloody Mary legend myself, though the version I got was both less religious and less martial. I never actually believed it per se, but I wrote it up with some embellishments for an English class when I was 14, and succeeded in giving myself a fear of mirrors in dark rooms. Still have it, a little bit.
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permalink #1445 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Dec 00 07:48
permalink #1445 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Dec 00 07:48
Michele -- I'm biased here. And I've already been to Australia several times, so am perhaps a little spoiled... but... Australia will be around for a long time to come. So, I trust will Tree & Reg (and Amanda and Dianna-the-ex-fairy and Eddie Campbell and co.) The cruise, on the other hand, has to make money this year, or it won't happen again. (Last year's, the first, lost a little, which was made up by the Summer auctions.) Harlan will be writing a story on board. You not only get to meet Scott & Ivy McCloud, you get to play with my goddaughters, Winter and Sky McCloud. (You may even meet Spinlo, Winter's imaginary friend, who is also god.) Sergio Aragones will be there. Peter David is getting married on board (I think). It's going to be memorable... And the more people who sign up earlier, the better it will be for the world. So please go. There. End of cruise plug. Spent last night signing the Xmas prints. 300 of them. Numbered the first 16 and then said I don't have time.... so someone else will number the others. Spoke ot the groundskeeper at the log cabin apartments I go and write at yesterday. Someone had tried -- very hard -- to break in to my writing apartment. With a chisel or a crowbar. And failed. He hammered the metal cover of the door back into place. Then he offered his own theory as to the break in. "I think" he said " it was one of your pals frum the university, having a lark, mebbe." "I'm not at the university." "You ain't?" "No." "Well, where do you work?" "Here." He looked at the piles of papers, the computers, the pens, the half-painted bloody angel-lampstand I'm making for a present for someone, and said "You're a writer?" "Yes." And he nodded, sympathetically. Half an hour later, he came back with gifts of food, and I couldn't think of a nice way to say no. I wasn't sure how I could have explained that there were starving writers and the other kind, and I was one of the other kind.
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permalink #1446 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Fri 15 Dec 00 11:01
permalink #1446 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Fri 15 Dec 00 11:01
How sweet.
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permalink #1447 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 15 Dec 00 11:19
permalink #1447 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 15 Dec 00 11:19
e-mail from Daniel Loft: I just finished reading DUNE for the first time and though it was a good read found it pretty deviod of humor. That groundskeeper story was pretty durn funny though and dovetails nicely with the fact that I'm now reading Mort by Terry Pratchett and making frequent visits to the Onion website. You don't hear about folks having a lark that much these days. Also, Neil, thanks for the tip on the Opies. I managed to pick up The Lore and Language of Schoolchildren from the university library and from the bit I've read so far it looks to be very interesting. Daniel
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permalink #1448 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Dec 00 11:50
permalink #1448 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Dec 00 11:50
Daniel -- I'm in the tiniest minority of people who like Dune Messiah better. Mostly, I think, because I read it first, and had to fill in Dune from inferences and comments... which made it a much stronger stranger book for an 11 year old than the actual book. And it had the BEST Bruce pennington cover painting. Away for a few days to meet fairy goddaughter. Dunno if I'll be by here or not, so chat away industriously in my absence. Remember to hit the CBLDF site for those hard-to-choose Xmas presents...
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permalink #1449 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 15 Dec 00 19:33
permalink #1449 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 15 Dec 00 19:33
Yes, well I have alternate reasons for going to Oz at that particular time as well, and those events might *not* be repeated... but considering how many hours I'll be getting at work (what with everyone moving and getting fired next month - just found out today about one more), I may make enough to do both - tho' with the Australia vacation, Burning Man, AND a cruise, I don't imagine my boss will be very pleased with my availability. Anyone interested in increasing my fundage for the CBLDF cruise can go to: http://www.girlswithglasses.com/ and place a vote for January (that's me). If I win, I get money, probably. :) -squeaks, who has been looking for a way to plug the site without seeming too desperate, and gave up.
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permalink #1450 of 1905: shira burton (whispered) Sat 16 Dec 00 11:04
permalink #1450 of 1905: shira burton (whispered) Sat 16 Dec 00 11:04
Neil, thanks for the postcard!! Oh.. and isn't this weather lovely? -shira
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