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permalink #101 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Tue 27 Feb 18 16:58
permalink #101 of 193: David Gans (tnf) Tue 27 Feb 18 16:58
Thank you, Mike! Great to hear from you.
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permalink #102 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Tue 27 Feb 18 17:09
permalink #102 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Tue 27 Feb 18 17:09
Yea Mike. Agree with all of that Mike and I fine tune the heck out of ALL 'silos'. Actually, we are reacting like every society in the first phase of a technical revolution....from agriculture, to math, to writing, to RR and rapid transportation, to Electric, to the Web, to a Digital World, ... and Beyond....Buzz Lightyear's review of world history
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permalink #103 of 193: Mike Godwin (mnemonic) Tue 27 Feb 18 18:58
permalink #103 of 193: Mike Godwin (mnemonic) Tue 27 Feb 18 18:58
We reacted that way to comic books and, before that, to dime novels.
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permalink #104 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Tue 27 Feb 18 21:30
permalink #104 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Tue 27 Feb 18 21:30
Penny Dreadfuls
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permalink #105 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Wed 28 Feb 18 03:56
permalink #105 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Wed 28 Feb 18 03:56
Seriously, though, we can look at Alvin Toffler's writings, Future Shock and Third Wave, Thomas Kuhn's Paradigm Shift. These technology revolutions come in two broad waves: The technological shift itself - a completely new way of communicating and organizing the chaos in which we live and the ways in which we do business, politics, education, and how that is reflected in our cultures, etc. And, the changes in the ways in which we perceive ourselves and each other.. Now we are adding VR/AR/MR into that mix as well....so REALITY is now 'reality'; lower case. It is all up for grabs, shape it any way you wish, or disappear down a virtual rabbit hole and hide from the great majority of it. And, according to Google's latest proclamation the move from electric to digital, from text to voice and video, to 5G - which we have not even gotten to the roll out yet - is now being replaced by the shift to AI....lordy, lordy. But, you know, that's all just an analytical overlay...my reality, anyway, is my relationships with my immediate friends, family and local community involvements...and it is all good in my neck of the woods. I try and limit my screen time to no more than one hour a day....ride my bicycle 10 miles or more a day and hang out at the coffee shops - talk with the high school and college kids...catch up with my tennis playing buddies and golf buddies..do the NYT Sunday crossword puzzle, read the comics. So, upon reflection, I am still doing some things I always did as a kid, probably for some sense of anchoring of 'self', and then I'm mixing it up with the new and volunteering at a Senior Living Center - Tech with Ted. And I just "down-sized" my life and moved in with friends in a Senior Mobile Home park. Gives me $600 a month pocket money...not bad on a fixed income. And I'm retooling my life to adapt to all my new 'realities'. At 70 years of age I find myself making all the same choices I did when I was 17....crazy and fun all at the same time. What do I want to do for the next 20 years career-wise, where do I want to travel, where is 'home base' going to be. My grand kids are 12 and 8. I need to make an appointment to see them now, they are so busy. My son and daughter are doing great...we have worked thru our "issues" and still love each other and respect our uniqueness(es). So, that's my life...really...the tech is just a tool box and the more I focus on what I want to do with my life the more the tech makes sense in the ways in which I wish to use it. Is the tech changing me? Of course. Is it for the better? Well, that's the question isn't it.
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permalink #106 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Wed 28 Feb 18 04:00
permalink #106 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Wed 28 Feb 18 04:00
If you even read all of that last post, you are among the 1% of the literate....studies now show that text is rapidly becoming "dead media". It's all about voice and video. I apologize for not being able to load it all up with pictures, music videos, gifs and emoticons and lol cats. Not!!
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permalink #107 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Wed 28 Feb 18 04:07
permalink #107 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Wed 28 Feb 18 04:07
What was the question again? Oh! Can Facebook be fixed before it fixes us? We do like to ramble here on the WELL. I think the consensus, so far, is that Facebook cannot be fixed, any more than the whole problem of bad robots, fake news, and the constant and continual grabbing for our bandwidth and attention. Hence the reason for voice and video. Now, even the spam ads that come with all the free apps are using obnoxious voice promos to make us come back into focus on their screeds...thank Gopod for the Home button, kills that crap in a second. Marshall McLuhan keyed us into the Media is the Message long ago and we quickly turned off our TVs and started tearing out the ads in the magazines - or at least I did. I'm not sucking for this Voice (I NEVER use it and turn it off on all my devices) and Video...I prefer a good mix of text, audio and video...but I am happiest reading a book and letting my mind create the worlds it portrays.... I will be my own editor, thanks.
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permalink #108 of 193: Mark McDonough (mcdee) Wed 28 Feb 18 04:43
permalink #108 of 193: Mark McDonough (mcdee) Wed 28 Feb 18 04:43
On this general subject: https://medium.com/@d1gi/untrue-tube-monetizing-misery-and-disinformation-388c 4786cc3d
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permalink #109 of 193: Nancy White (choco) Wed 28 Feb 18 06:07
permalink #109 of 193: Nancy White (choco) Wed 28 Feb 18 06:07
Does anyone know the data behind this tweet about FB charging different rates for different candidates? https://twitter.com/kimmaicutler/status/967908818133929985
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permalink #110 of 193: Nancy White (choco) Wed 28 Feb 18 09:44
permalink #110 of 193: Nancy White (choco) Wed 28 Feb 18 09:44
And then this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/we-studied-thousands-of-anonym ous-posts-about-the-parkland-attack---and-found-a-conspiracy-in-the-making
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permalink #111 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 01:56
permalink #111 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 01:56
#110 bad link Here's one that points to the article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/we-studied-thousands-of-anonym ous-posts-about-the-parkland-attack---and-found-a-conspiracy-in-the-making/201 8/02/27/04a856be-1b20-11e8-b2d9-08e748f892c0_story.html?utm_term=.e3e525f78829
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permalink #112 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 03:59
permalink #112 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 03:59
From the WEF no less... https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/01/the-fourth-industrial-revolution-what-i t-means-and-how-to-respond/ "We stand on the brink of a technological revolution that will fundamentally alter the way we live, work, and relate to one another. In its scale, scope, and complexity, the transformation will be unlike anything humankind has experienced before. We do not yet know just how it will unfold, but one thing is clear: the response to it must be integrated and comprehensive, involving all stakeholders of the global polity, from the public and private sectors to academia and civil society." "the response to it must be integrated and comprehensive" This, for me, is the global issue for this entire conversation. Integration. From a personal, core and moral and ethical perspective, to the answer to "what is my truth?", to a We Space that comprehensively embraces different points of view and where real listening takes place, to the integration of plans of action. Facebook, Snapchat, WeChat, Twitter, LinkedIn, Hangouts, Instagram, Medium, etc. all are embraced in this and emblematic of the State of US. These economic models represent the old and the new approaches to economic trade and barter as we search for systems that integrate all the new tech. As systems, they are easily gamed; hence, fake news, mind control, etc. Whether Facebook can adapt their model to incorporate better controls for communication and still keep their bottom line is a sea change. It would put the user first, not ad revenue. I just don't see that happening. But, either way, the global issue remains the same.
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permalink #113 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 04:23
permalink #113 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 04:23
https://books.google.com/books?id=sxA1a6YQg7QC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false This approach walks itself out from individual, to life space, to local community involvements to State, Federal and Global universes... This new book addresses to possibilities of becoming or sustaining an Emancipatory City....their are also Antagonistic Cities (and they serve a useful purpose in the symbiotics of things: https://soundcloud.com/user-283789701/12-antagonistic-cities
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permalink #114 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:04
permalink #114 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:04
To Ted Newcomb ... No response from FB to the subscription idea. This is not a huge surprise. One interesting external response: they also have the ability to monetize two new businesses (Marketplace, which is now larger than eBay, but free; and Messenger, where people send money without fee) that do not require brain hacking. re: employees getting in the way of Zuck's new year's resolution. The resolution itself was disingenuous. We are hearing tales of employees pushing back and trying to address the systemic issues. This is a hopeful sign.
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permalink #115 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:06
permalink #115 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:06
To David Gans ... I, too, find FB exceptionally valuable, both for personal and professional use. The problem is the advertising business model, which creates perverse incentives for FB, and makes the platform dangerous for many users and for democracy.
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permalink #116 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:11
permalink #116 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:11
To Betsy Schwartz ... I agree. Network television created a filter bubble in the 50s and 60s. I remember watching the JFK funeral, the Beatles, the moon landing with EVERYONE. That was key. The network TV filter bubble brought the country together. There was a shared of facts. The problem with FB is that the ad model creates perverse incentives. When you layer that model on top of 2.1 billion Truman Shows delivered by always available smartphones, the incentive is to polarize. Every person has his or her own Truman Show, which is enables a unique set of facts, and a unique community of people who reinforce pre-exising ideas, making them more rigid, and making it almost impossible for new data (including facts) to get through.
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permalink #117 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:14
permalink #117 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:14
I, three, find FB valuable.... 15,934 That's Billion dollars last year, up $5 billion from the previous year....that's a hell of a lot of money for a subscription model to replace. I just don't see that happening.
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permalink #118 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:15
permalink #118 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:15
To Ari Davidow and David Gans ... Fox created a divisive filter bubble that laid the groundwork for FB. Ari -- I agree that there has always been divisive media. However, from 1914 to the creation of Fox, it was mostly at the fringes. Cable TV created a delivery platform for division, but it took the better part of 20 years for Fox to happen.
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permalink #119 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:17
permalink #119 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:17
"When you layer that model on top of 2.1 billion Truman Shows delivered by always available smartphones, the incentive is to polarize. Every person has his or her own Truman Show, which is enables a unique set of facts, and a unique community of people who reinforce pre-exising ideas, making them more rigid, and making it almost impossible for new data (including facts) to get through." The Truman Show metaphor is a gold standard of media and advertising modeling and marketing...."everybody knows".... And that would be a fundamental sea change for FB....the marketers are all agile and would adapt in a nanosecond...so, the model does not matter...a mantra that CEO's would do well to repeat in the shower every morning, while rewatching Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
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permalink #120 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:18
permalink #120 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:18
To Craig Maudlin ... Another thing that has changed: a prolonged attack on public education. Kids have not learned civics since the early 1980s. Hardly anyone knows history or understands how the government is supposed to work. Outrage is contagious and addictive. Exploiting outrage turns out to be a good business and will remain so until we break the cycle.
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permalink #121 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:22
permalink #121 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:22
To Ted, re: #76 Have you seen that it's now possible to make porn videos with other people's heads on the bodies? By 2020, there will be technology to create completely phony, but totally believable videos about just about anything. The only legitimate use case I can imagine is to keep Princess Leia alive. You can already create phony audio if you have 20 minutes of real audio to work from. None of this technology is flawless yet, but in the current polarized political environment, it will work well enough to be a problem.
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permalink #122 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:24
permalink #122 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:24
To Craig Maudlin, #78 I strongly agree. Everyone should read Tim Wu's, The Attention Merchants. It explains the evolution of advertising from 1830 the present. Tim coined the term "net neutrality." He is a brilliant professor at Columbia Law School.
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permalink #123 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:27
permalink #123 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:27
To Betsy, #80 ... Trust is at a low. There is a war on expertise of all kinds. People do not trust academics or any other kind of domain expert, except possibly doctors. I am do not have an answer on "how to fix it," other than the obvious: education. It would really help if people in power stopped contributing the to the problem.
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permalink #124 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:29
permalink #124 of 193: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:29
#121 To Ted, re: #76 Have you seen that it's now possible to make porn videos with other people's heads on the bodies? By 2020, there will be technology to create completely phony, but totally believable videos about just about anything. The only legitimate use case I can imagine is to keep Princess Leia alive. Yup...and wait til you see the VR/AR/MR integrations of this... Porn, crime (virtually the same thing) and religions get the new tech before anyone else....they are always the leading edge of what's coming down the pipe...that and anything DARPA is up to.
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permalink #125 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:30
permalink #125 of 193: Roger McNamee (rmcnamee) Thu 1 Mar 18 07:30
To Ted, re: #88 I think that Facebook is more like a cult or religion than a government. It connects people through their emotions, which is very powerful. It cuts across borders and languages, reducing the ability of any constituency to place limits on it.
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