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permalink #326 of 468: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:00
permalink #326 of 468: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:00
So, what makes you happy these days, Emily? Well, hanging out with makers and hackers is usually pretty uplifting. They're also distrustful, but also, often, kind weirdos who eschew conformity. If those scenes are unfamiliar, check out https://www.rightscon.org/ or https://misinfocon.com/ or Make: magazine (full disclosure: I've written books for Make). I'm a co-founder and board member of Women Do News, a project to get more bio pages of women journalists on Wikipedia. That's food for my soul. Sewing and knitting my own stuff instead of buying it is also a solace. I own a few crypto coins. It's an interesting sensation to have a stake in whether Ethereum might actually break $100,000 by 2030. The blockchain is an entertaining topic over beers or dinner with friends (if I ever get to do that again). I will risk differing with the wise minds at Wired etc. to say it's pretty irrelevant to billions of people, though. It's terrible for the climate and green energy needs to go to a lot more prosaic things for the next few decades, like homes and industry.
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permalink #327 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:09
permalink #327 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:09
Emily: Yeah, I think we have to get the cities out of the same political units as the "flyover" states. Shift the people, shift the map, or it's gonna be two dobermans fighting in the back of a car over a steak. With kids in the car. It held for a while but the cultural divergence is too great. Same thing in the UK: London is *another dimension* compared to Yorkshire etc. We have to redraw the map, for peace to be possible. This is by no means *good* news but I don't know what the alternative solution would be. It's a bloody mess. Maybe it'll blow over. It could blow over. Worse things have blown over. I'm not prophesying doom. But if stuff start moving, extremely agile responses will be required. We need to pre-game this stuff in progressive circles so we can be ready to react by the time negotiations begin.
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permalink #328 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:21
permalink #328 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:21
Southern Oregonians secessionists want to be part of the new State of Jefferson, along with the northernmost counties of California.
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permalink #329 of 468: Tiffany Lee Brown (T) (magdalen) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:48
permalink #329 of 468: Tiffany Lee Brown (T) (magdalen) Thu 13 Jan 22 15:48
State of Jefferson has been around for a very long time, says this Oregonian. today in divided, split Central Oregon where i live, i wore an N95 mask outdoors in the middle school parking lot, to take a walk with my friend before we picked up our kids. we usually do this unmasked, but she'd told me that she was probably exposed to Covid a couple days ago. a family of 6 or 7 people walked by, heading toward the school. i said, "Howdy," as one does in a small town. they openly sneered at us and said nothing back. in my not-so-very-punk-rock middle age, i had no blue mohawk to sneer at, tattoos all covered up in the snowy weather. "did you see those people, looking at our masks like that?" asked my friend as we walked off. yes, yes i did. i saw them showing their children how to behave, too.
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permalink #330 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 13 Jan 22 16:11
permalink #330 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 13 Jan 22 16:11
I decided to be actually curious about Avalanche and went looking for interesting things to read. Unfortunately, intelligent writing on this subject is pretty thin on the ground. The original 2018 paper is "Snowflake to Avalanche: A Novel Metastable Consensus Protocol Family for Cryptocurrencies" and it's pretty good. It was published anonymously on IPFS [1], but it seems to have been by a team at Cornell? If you follow that link, it loads so slowly that I thought it was broken. However, someone copied it to Amazon [2], where it loads quickly. (That seems like a metaphor for something?) I've skimmed enough computer science research papers to say that it's reasonably well-written and fits nicely into that genre. I think I understand the algorithms, though not the proofs. Without a deep understanding, we're not going to be able to tell if it's subtly broken. I can only make shallow style nitpicks: they use they mysterious abbreviation "whp" to mean "with high probability," I'm guessing? Also, Figure 5 is missing. I went looking at citations on Google Scholar and there are some, but they're not that interesting. I did see one badly-written paper that said it was all bullshit [3]. The original authors seem to have responded that they misread the paper [4]. [1] <https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmUy4jh5mGNZvLkjies1RWM4YuvJh5o2FYopNPVYwrRVGV> [2] <http://knowen-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/attachment/file/1922/Snowfla ke%2Bto%2BAvalanche%2B-%2BA%2BNovel%2BMetastable%2BConsensus%2BProtocol%2BFami ly.pdf> [3] <https://chan-relay.snowblossom.org/channel/85ywfwa2quwkcd3d765ljcg5f5exqg8t7fj fzs9a/reviews/2019-11-11-On%20pseudo-profound%20bullshit%20in%20the%20Avalanch e%20whitepaper.pdf> [4] https://www.notion.so/d7akk10/2a05cdcfb5fc43969c675c5660d17851
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permalink #331 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Thu 13 Jan 22 16:22
permalink #331 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Thu 13 Jan 22 16:22
The algorithm is *really* simple. 20 minutes at a whiteboard, you understand it: it's simulated annealing, but with the possibility of adversarial actors. It's in a sweet spot for probability calculations - any decent statistician can tell you exactly how likely it is to fail under what conditions. There's not much to go wrong with the algorithm. Compare this to ETH2 and all the associated complexity. None of which is to say it's going to work flawlessly - there is an implementation, and the field is still young.
>emilyg: They're the mainstream in eastern Oregon, where most people want to secede and become part of Idaho. True, but they are so sparse that they constitute but one of Oregon's seven (thanx California!) legislative districts. Land doesn't vote, and dirt doesn't march. That these people exist is not news. Their grievance is that they are politically irrelevant, and they're right; they are. That their relative population is minuscule still has the capacity to surprise, however. I expect they will learn to live with disappointment.
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permalink #333 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 13 Jan 22 17:07
permalink #333 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 13 Jan 22 17:07
One thing I worry about it whether their assumption of random sampling of the network will hold, or whether it can be subverted. The original paper is too high-level to tell. It's the sort of thing that might work in theory but not in practice, particularly when someone *wants* to break it. On a related note, what exactly happens when there is a network partition? They talk about it a little, but I don't get it. It's the sort of thing that Aphyr would test. I also looked at the source code [1]. It's written in Go which I know how to read, and it looks well-organized and would probably be a reasonable codebase to work on. But my skim isn't going to tell us whether there are security holes either. I was curious about bootstrapping and found the spot where it seems to choose randomly from a hard-coded list of IP's [2]. Someone doing a deeper dive than me might figure out where those IP's come from. I found a postmortem of a concurrency bug in early 2021 that caused a partial outage [3]. It seems like a reasonable sort of bug that might happen to anyone. Are there more bugs? Who knows. Beyond that, there are engineering updates that I don't understand and don't seem to be about fundamental issues, and a whole lot of hype. The CEO is Emin Gün Sirer who worked at Bell Labs, Digital Equipment, and NEC, and then became a professor at Cornell. Sounds great, but his Twitter account (named "el33th4xor" with a cartoon avatar [4]) is now devoted to retweeting Avalanche hype. There is also a more serious blog [5] that he doesn't write. I think maybe it's for his graduate students? So, that's as far as I got as far as finding intelligent writing. I think the thing I'm missing is something a good science writer would do, which is call up a bunch of other scientists and ask them if a new paper is any good and how it fits in with the literature. Or maybe there is someone in the Avalanche community who writes as well as Vitalik Buterin, but I haven't found them. Or is there some mailing list where the real cryptographers hang out? So I still don't know how anyone would decide if it will really work or if it will eventually collapse due to some undiscovered weakness. If they had a red team trying to attack it, that might result in more confidence? I guess we'll find out when attackers start getting serious about trying to break it. [1] https://github.com/ava-labs/avalanchego [2] https://github.com/ava-labs/avalanchego/blob/master/genesis/beacons.go [3] https://medium.com/avalancheavax/preliminary-analysis-of-the-invalid-minting-b ug-bee940cbd9e9 [4] https://twitter.com/el33th4xor [5] https://hackingdistributed.com/
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permalink #334 of 468: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 13 Jan 22 19:32
permalink #334 of 468: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 13 Jan 22 19:32
Heya axon. How can we reform two senators for every state? Serious question. Until population size dictates representation across the board, it does seem like dirts going to continue having an outsized vote. Meanwhile, whites are still the majority in the US for a few more decades at least, and a really unfortunately large number of us are freaked out that the sunset of the white majority is in sight. These folks might have remained a backwater, mostly not voicing their white resentments, if not for being stoked by FOX and Rush for several decades, overlapping with the past two decades of the most influential tech companies being run by dude bro libertarians. As an environmental reporter, I tell myself that there are much bigger and more ancient realities that put the human scale of time in a helpfully reduced perspective. Although when one has to start contemplating history on an evolutionary or galactic scale to cope with the current state of things Ok, heres a hopeful development: A German court gave Anwar Raslan life in prison for his crimes against humanity. The landmark trial marked the first time a high-ranking former Syrian official has faced Syrians in open court in a war crimes case, as NPR put it earlier today.
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permalink #335 of 468: Tiffany Lee Brown (T) (magdalen) Thu 13 Jan 22 20:34
permalink #335 of 468: Tiffany Lee Brown (T) (magdalen) Thu 13 Jan 22 20:34
> That these people exist is not news. being dismissive of them has not been helpful, historically. think back to the horror that dawned upon you in November, 2016. the attitude i'm hearing is "they're just a handful of hicks on too much dirt, who cares." we should all fucking care -- both as humans, who care about our fellow humans, and as politically concerned folks who don't want to be destroyed by Trumpism, civil war, etc.
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permalink #336 of 468: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 13 Jan 22 21:44
permalink #336 of 468: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 13 Jan 22 21:44
>> Although when one has to start contemplating history on an evolutionary or galactic scale to cope with the current state of things Boy is that the truth.
>emilyg: How can we reform two senators for every state? Serious question. Serious answer: Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico, to start. Guam, too. Wtf does a constitutional republic need with territorial "possessions"? Either give them statehood or independence. Colonialism is soooo 18th century... Frivolous answer: Repeal Reconstruction. Revoke statehood for coloring outside the constitutional lines. >magalen: the attitude i'm hearing is "they're just a handful of hicks on too much dirt, who cares." It's not that I don't care. It's that I don't think they pose a meaningful risk. I think they're likely to be troublesome, but not an existential threat to our republic.
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permalink #338 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 13 Jan 22 22:12
permalink #338 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 13 Jan 22 22:12
The question of whether Oregon is likely to remain a blue state seems mostly distinct from which party will control the US Senate.
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permalink #339 of 468: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 13 Jan 22 22:43
permalink #339 of 468: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 13 Jan 22 22:43
You can't get statehood through the Senate. What next?
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permalink #340 of 468: I was oilers1972, now going by (mct67) Thu 13 Jan 22 23:09
permalink #340 of 468: I was oilers1972, now going by (mct67) Thu 13 Jan 22 23:09
In agreement with #335. "I think they're likely to be troublesome, but not an existential threat to our republic." Perhaps, but troublesome is bad and scary enough.
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permalink #341 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 02:47
permalink #341 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 02:47
The hard question is how much staying power does it have. The militia movement... I remember hearing about that *way* back in the day, in the 1990s probably around Ruby Ridge. The folks who were young militiamen then are fifty and sixty now. We're dealing with their kids, and for the older guys, their grandkids. I'm not enough of a historian of these matters to know if the militiamen are drawing on the KKK heritage - is it the grandkids of the guys wearing white hoods in the 1950s? I don't know if the KKK grew straight out of the Confederacy, kinda like American Legion for Confederates. I lived in the States for quite a while, but I've been back in London for more than a decade. It's all kinda distant. Anyway I don't think it's going away anytime soon. Whether it *matters* is an open question: the Civil Rights movement backs right up on to Abolitionism and comes right into the present as Black Lives Matter, but if they aren't rioting, for the most part the mainstream of politics totally ignores their concerns. Which shows that however many people support the cause, however right the cause is, most of the time it will be ignored. Is it possible the Trumpists / red hats / modern confederacy / y'all queda / vanilla ISIS / militia types can be similarly ignored in future? The Civil Rights movement has to fight for every inch of ground and is very heavily opposed and policed: could the same fate await the Red Hats? It's entirely possible. It could all just blow away in the wind. Or not. It could stick very very hard and become a dominant political force.
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permalink #342 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 04:38
permalink #342 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 04:38
New topic: META? Metaverse? I got a Oculus Quest 2 a few months ago. Used it compulsively for two weeks, then it sat gathering dust. I think the hardware is there but the software is still barbaric.
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permalink #343 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:04
permalink #343 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:04
*Anxious chatter about a future American Civil War must be of a lot of interest to historians of the Chinese Civil War. They had to choke it back a little so that they could endure World War II, but then they just went right back at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War *You have to wonder if the hegemonic Chinese would bother to pick a side between "Red America" and "Blue America," or just suavely agree that there's only one America, and then arm both of them. *Everybody decries Xinjiang till they've got some rambunctious rural region full of rebellious ethnics; then, hey man, that face-recognition and all those tracker phone apps can be pretty handy.
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permalink #344 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:07
permalink #344 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:07
*Maybe some future Richard Nixon will fly to China in a "can't beat 'em, join 'em" arrangement, and the world will tremble all over.
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permalink #345 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:41
permalink #345 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:41
"Its not Metaverse unless its made in an office park next to a freeway in Menlo Park. Otherwise its just sparkling VR." "Man is born free and everywhere he is into blockchains." "Apparently using a screen in a car is now the car Metaverse. I tweeted this in a coffee shop, so I think that means I am participating in the coffee Metaverse.' *Benedict Evans @benedictevans has been having a pretty good pandemic. As his former employers at the a16Z venture capital outfit get more and more cranky, magisterial and self-important, he becomes funnier. He seems almost light-hearted as things get worse, like "Chaos Under Heaven, the situation is excellent!"
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permalink #346 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:42
permalink #346 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 14 Jan 22 05:42
In chatting with my Italian art-world colleagues here in Turin, they seem less concerned about NFTs than they were just a few months ago. There was so much loose funny-money there that it could have wreaked savage havoc throughout the European art world, but NFT people are indifferent to "trad art." They want to fling their money at the prospects that excite and motivate them: exclusive tokens, ape-shaped membership coupons, collectible toys, running shoes, play-for-pay social games and metaverses that offer real-estate purchases. *There's a slice of Venn Diagram overlap, where Sotheby's lives, where fine art does overlap with very expensive NFTs, but the NFT world doesn't care to invade the art institutions. It seems to wants to haul itself to Mars on Elon's coat-tails. It finds art-world credibility to be not worth having -- it's too highbrow and toney, it gets in their way. They've got zero interest in cultural heritage, and they're obsessed with moonshot schemes. That could change, and it commonly does, but they'll probably have to get old and gray first.
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permalink #347 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 06:23
permalink #347 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 06:23
"Man is born free and everywhere he is into blockchains." - this is a wickedness :)
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permalink #348 of 468: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 14 Jan 22 06:24
permalink #348 of 468: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 14 Jan 22 06:24
Some Buddhists deal with the current state of the world by practicing Tonglen... "In tonglen practice, we visualize taking in the pain of others with every in-breath and sending out whatever will benefit them on the out-breath. In the process, we become liberated from age- old patterns of selfishness. We begin to feel love for both ourselves and others; we begin to take care of ourselves and others." <https://www.lionsroar.com/how-to-practice-tonglen/> Maybe this is what we should all be doing. It's hard to know what's happening. Everything we think we know is filtered through unreliable perception, and too much of the world's information is filtered through unreliable media, and even more unreliable social media, for most of us. We talk about militias and civil war, but I have no intelligence about the competence and potential power of militias in the USA. It's possible that they're powerful enough to wreak havoc, it's also possible that they'd be taken down in a couple of hours by government forces, even though some of the government forces are sympathetic enough to pull their punches. A lot of these militia folks are well-educated middle-class Americans who should know better. Stewart Rhodes, founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, is a lawyer and an army vet from Montana. What got into his head? "Tonglen can be done for those who are ill, those who are dying or have died, or those who are in pain of any kind." Sounds to me like Stewart Rhodes and his compatriots are in real pain. What happens if we direct our Tonglen practice at those guys? "Usually, we look away when we see someone suffering. Their pain brings up our fear or anger; it brings up our resistance and confusion. So we can also do tonglen for all the people just like ourselvesall those who wish to be compassionate but instead are afraid, who wish to be brave but instead are cowardly." We are where we are precisely because forces who consider themselves above it all are stoking hate and division. They seem to know how to leverage the chaos for their won benefit. Hate is a tool, hate is a weapon. Sowing division, they reap power. The Civil War is already a thing, and it works for them quite nicely. The Civil War is not a war, it's a strategy. I had the Incredible String Band in my head this week... "I know you belong to everybody but you can't deny that I'm you... You give all your brightness away and it only makes you brighter." That's a world, too... there's more than one world, a world where climate is collapsing, a world where hate is proliferating - those aren't the only worlds, and they're certainly not the only possible worlds. Can we end the fight by joining the fight? Or do we end it by refusing to fight?
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permalink #349 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 07:01
permalink #349 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Fri 14 Jan 22 07:01
Bruce: "the NFT world doesn't care to invade the art institutions" We learned from the experience of banking. The big banks *all* did blockchain prototypes around 2016. It was a huge push and the blockchain world expected to get fully integrated. https://www.santander.com/en/press-room/press-releases/santander-launches-the- first-end-to-end-blockchain-bond not much more came of it than this. So we know the "real art world" aren't coming along for the ride, except in an kind of weird, episodic way (Beeple). I think our role is to build a real commercial market for folk art and pop culture rather than trying to storm the world of modern art. The Nerds already won cinema (well, "films") with Marvel and Disney, and one may imagine the same thing is going to happen to "art."
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permalink #350 of 468: Gary Gach (ggg) Fri 14 Jan 22 09:05
permalink #350 of 468: Gary Gach (ggg) Fri 14 Jan 22 09:05
Joining the fight or refusing to fight ? Or not taking sides !? If human beings are our enemy then with whom are we to live? Tonglen & metta = mighty good medicine to clarify the above. they help establish & maintain grounding in Reality, stability & resilience in necessary compassion &, in & of themselves, are not enough. IE, quietism. To be true, they must be engaged thru action. -=//=- Am still interested in hearing any wisdom about where mainland might go with Taiwan the US policy towards both being intentional ambiguity a consulate for the peoples republic, and golf with wonks from the free republic. =====-/-===== Has Heather Cox Richardson answered any viewers question ( she devotes whole programs to Q&A) about the history of the militia movement ?
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