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permalink #401 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 11:39
permalink #401 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 11:39
Brian Slesinsky: I worked on this specific problem for most of a decade. Eventually I distilled it down to a single easy to read short high level briefing document. In essence it says this: whatever happens, people must not be too hot, too cold, hungry, thirsty, ill, or injured. If they die it will be of one of these six causes. Most of the time the risk is concentrated at the systemic level: a flood kills a few, but epidemic waterborne disease spreads afterwards as sanitation fails. That sort of thing. There are huge commonalities: almost any really dangerous epidemic is going to be spread through the air, so N95 masks block danger across a wide range of scenarios, both known risk and unforeseen future hazards. Add bleach and gloves. The commonalities between crises are strong: people's basic needs and basic biology do not change - they must have water, whatever the circumstances. http://resiliencemaps.org/files/Dealing_in_Security.July2010.en.pdf That's the doc with the model. It was designed for multidisciplinary groups of non-specialists (mayor, chief of police, hospital administrator, power company rep, water company rep, big box food store rep) to be able to do short range planning work after a crisis has become inevitable or (more realistically) after a crisis has already started. It's a pretty light read. The real impact does not come until you draw out the diagrams for yourself, and map your own life on them. Then it will open your head like a can opener.
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permalink #402 of 468: Craig Maudlin (clm) Sun 16 Jan 22 11:40
permalink #402 of 468: Craig Maudlin (clm) Sun 16 Jan 22 11:40
Interesting. Vinay, regarding your <384>, yes I do remember Hakim Bey and his work may indeed be the proximate cause of some persistent metaphysical chaos. But I'm much more impressed with the hard work Daniel Kahneman and others have done to establish "a cognitive basis for common human errors that arise from heuristics and biases" (as his Wikipedia page puts it). He got a Nobel Prize in economics in 2002. But economic thinking is just an instance of human thinking. The real discovery is that human rationality is not what we thought it was! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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permalink #403 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:12
permalink #403 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:12
Craig Maudlin: I think the point where deep thinkers started to integrate the idea of rolling your own reality, and then living inside of it, was really Hakim Bey. John Lilly, Tim Leary, Robert Anton Wilson, Antero Alli all worked with the notion but largely as an *individual* phenomena. "Programming and metaprogramming the human biocomputer." Hakim Bey's breakthrough was to tie this phenomena to a *place* rather than to an individual: in this *place* - this zone - the rules are different. Two realities, one square reality outside of the zone, and something more customized and comfortable inside of it. Sneaks out by degrees until Burning Man. But a mutated form of that viewpoint latches elsewhere, leading to the whole "reality based community" schism 20 years ago where the American leadership made it perfectly clear that *they* decided what was real and the world would follow them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community From there to the present situaiton where *EVERYBODY* is creating new realities and trying to force people to live inside of them. Interestingly one thing which has gotten left behind in all this customization of reality is the idea that other people's realities are just as real as ours are. Once the metaphysic of "we create our own reality" is pushed beyond the individual - to groups, to governments, to places - it starts to require enforcement. Getting people to conform to a world model is a fundamental drive in many social movements now, up to and including the anti-vaxxers and the flat earthers. Perhaps there are good reasons why knowledge about the subjective nature of reality was often a closely held secret. But the cat is out of the bag now and it looks to me like our sense of *what is real* is going to keep on shattering until either we hit some new universal boundary, or (more likely) the world becomes an unintelligible mosaic and we define our position in it by action rather than by understanding. Absolutely right about cognitive biases: I'm sure they are being weaponized at scale too (how much of targeted advertising is just spaced repetition so that when you want something you buy the thing you saw a few weeks ago?). That's a huge discovery. I feel like this is sort of a two level thing: reality tunnel type thinking broke the map, and the limits to rationality then cause us to be unable to clearly read the street signs: no wonder we are so lost.
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permalink #404 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:20
permalink #404 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:20
I suppose this is also "death of god" territory: religious conservatives trying to force reality back into a single world model with two genders and gender roles fortified by things like limiting access to first abortion then birth control. It's hard to govern or make law across a society which doesn't exist inside of a single broad consensus on *what is real*. Do vaccines work? Are a lot of people harmed by them? Was covid a lab accident or did it get started in a meat market? Was Jan6 an abortive coup or just a hysterical crowd acting out? I feel like people much sharper than I am about this stuff (anthropologists?) have written a lot about it, perhaps in more veiled and indirect terms, but this breaking of the world into Bable-like shards is going to be with us for a while yet, and I (for one) don't know how best to navigate it.
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permalink #405 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:30
permalink #405 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:30
Texas's power grid was developed in isolation from other states in order to avoid federal regulation. The power companies don't pay attention to the in-state regulators who warned that the grid was vulnerable to extreme weather. The grid needs to be rebuilt with the flexibility that would enable effective use of wind energy, including transmission from places where the wind is blowing right now to places where it isn't and interconnects to other grids for import and export of electricity. These changes would also make the grid more resilient when the weather gets really bad.
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permalink #406 of 468: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:42
permalink #406 of 468: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:42
More effective use of wind and renewable energy will be helpful longer term, but the near term issue is weatherization of power plants and transmission systems.
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permalink #407 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:50
permalink #407 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 16 Jan 22 12:50
Which wouldn't have been as disastrous if it had been possible to import electricity, for example from the TVA. The changes that would make possible more effective use of wind energy would also decentralize the grid and make it less brittle.
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permalink #408 of 468: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:25
permalink #408 of 468: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:25
(really like response #398).
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permalink #409 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:40
permalink #409 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:40
Looked at from a security standpoint, relying on electricity transfer between regions seems risky? That's a very long supply line and could be vulnerable to either wildfires or enemy action. It seems like it might be infrastructure for a more peaceful and stable climate than we have? I guess they could be combined as long as you do a disaster drill now and then. Regular service outages, as some areas in California have to worry about due to fire danger, will tend to encourage more disaster preparation. If outages don't happen on their own then you need to schedule them.
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permalink #410 of 468: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:45
permalink #410 of 468: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:45
> The changes that would make possible more effective use of > wind energy would also decentralize the grid and make it > less brittle. Maybe, but that would require a political shift that is happening too slowly in Texas to get us where we need to be before the next ice storm. Which could be any year, even this year. I heard a legislator (don't recall which one) saying that a huge part of the problem was freezing at gas transmission facilities, which should have been designated to retain power during emergency shutdowns. He said part of the difficulty there was identifying all of the facilities that would need to be included. I'm not expecting a quick fix, though hopeful that overall the energy providers are taking the deep freeze weatherization need seriously. > relying on electricity transfer between regions seems risky My understanding is that it's not unusual, but Texas won't allow it because it would open the state to federal regulation and fees.
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permalink #411 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:49
permalink #411 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:49
Meanwhile in supply line news, just protecting the cargo is becoming an issue. It's not just Somalian pirates anymore: Rail thefts leave tracks littered with pilfered packages <https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-16/rail-theft-soars-los-angel es-pilfered-packages-littering-tracks> > Union Pacific reported what it claimed was a 160% increase since December 2020 in thefts along the railroad tracks in L.A. County. The railroad didnt release specific data on what was stolen or the value of what was lost, but it said the increase in crime cost the company at least $5 million last year. > A bottleneck in the supply chain and the presence of homeless encampments near rail lines have contributed to the thefts, officials said. > Organized and opportunistic criminal rail theft ... impacts our employees, our customers in the overall supply chain industry, said Adrian Guerrero, a director of public affairs for Union Pacific. > Guerrero estimates that about 90 cargo containers a day are compromised, sometimes by an organized group that has halted trains and recruited people living on the street to ransack the containers. > Union Pacific is deploying more drones, has brought in extra security and enlisted the Los Angeles Police Department, California Highway Patrol and the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department to combat the thefts, Guerrero said.
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permalink #412 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:52
permalink #412 of 468: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Sun 16 Jan 22 13:52
<410>: That's a sane way to address the problem. I'm under no illusion that Texas will do it.
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permalink #413 of 468: Craig Maudlin (clm) Sun 16 Jan 22 14:18
permalink #413 of 468: Craig Maudlin (clm) Sun 16 Jan 22 14:18
Vinay Gupta: > I think the point where deep thinkers started to > integrate the idea of rolling your own reality, and then living > inside of it, was really Hakim Bey. I mean to take nothing away from Hakim Bey. There is certainly a sense of 'constructed reality' for which I completely agree with you. But consider magic -- literally (I was a Magician for a short time). We might say that a magician constructs an alternate reality and extends it to encompass an audience. Today, magicians do this to entertain. But there's evidence that early forms of magic ritual practice have always been part of human culture. Not for entertainment purposes but to more directly influence (or manipulate?) the behavior of others. It was used as a kind of show of power. If we look at magic in terms of the physics, psychology, neuroscience, and a bit of the semiotics involved, we can see pretty clearly how Magic works. Cognitive biases, heuristics, and illusions all seem to be related. The difference between illusion and reality may just be belief. But the magician's constructed realities are highly constrained -- the opposite of anarchy. Part of the trick includes keeping the audience from seeing the limits -- and encourages the audience to accept that what the magician has done means that anything is possible. > But the cat is out of the bag now and it looks to me like our sense > of *what is real* is going to keep on shattering until either we hit > some new universal boundary, or (more likely) the world becomes an > unintelligible mosaic and we define our position in it by action > rather than by understanding. I'm hoping that a better understanding of how the magic tricks work will expose more of the constraints (the aspects of the magician's reality) that's being hidden. So, for the small percentage of flat earthers that are true believers, we can move from asking "How can they possibly think that?" to "Oh, now we can see why they think that way and *why*!" And the 'why' includes understanding the motivations of the actors (the magicians) involved.
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permalink #414 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 14:36
permalink #414 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 14:36
<401> that's a great abstraction for security issues, thanks! As you say it needs to be get fleshed out with specifics. People who are willing to do their homework could come up with something meaningful to them. I'm thinking, though, that most people won't. Seeing it fleshed out for someone else's community might be interesting, though.
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permalink #415 of 468: Jef Poskanzer (jef) Sun 16 Jan 22 14:42
permalink #415 of 468: Jef Poskanzer (jef) Sun 16 Jan 22 14:42
There was a derailment today at the train looting site, if that was done on purpose to loot more cargo it's rather an escalation.
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permalink #416 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 15:39
permalink #416 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 15:39
Brian Slesinsky: Thank you! Yes, it's proven to be a *hard* sell - http://resiliencemaps.org has a very well worked out case for the Canary Islands in the event of a respiratory tract infection pandemic (a pandemic flu, but much the same as covid in general trajectory). Other than that, *crickets*. Some of this is because people perceive it as bleak: "can't you make it six ways to live?" It also starts with the individual and works up, rather than starting with Continuity of Government and working down as most people in the industry would find natural ("that's why it starts with the individual, sir, because normally it would start with you"). https://archive.org/details/TheGuptaStateFailureManagementArchive the Ireland video in there is a group of Irish climate change / financial system doomers in a workshop making a total population mortality estimate for Ireland in the event of a global economic collapse resulting in a loss of all imports and exports. It's surprisingly not that bad, around 3%. This is because Ireland has a very low population density, due to the famines and mass migration out of the green isle. The same methodology produces about a 30% mortality estimate for America under the same circumstances. Cheery.
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permalink #417 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:15
permalink #417 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:15
Craig Maudlin: An awful lot of things which are considered to be magic in the west, literally *magic* like ritual magic etc. are considered to be normal parts of an average person's religious practice in India. You know, all those statues we keep around? They're ritualistically infused with the life-breath of the practitioner, brought to life, considered to be alive, treated as alive, treated as sacred, and if they have to be moved or something they're *de sanctified* by withdrawing the breath of life from them and then they're simply objects again and can be put in a crate. When you have an entire civilization that works that way on a fairly regular day to day basis, you can imagine what the serious students of The Art are learning under titles like Raja Yoga and Jnana Yoga or Kriya Yoga. In India it's just kinda how things are done, nobody thinks of it as mystical or esoteric, but if you put those routines into the cant of the Golden Dawn it would be three days of ceremonial ritual purifications for the moving guys before they were allowed to take the statue down and put it in the van! It's all the same *stuff* it's just in India its at such a scale and so normalized that in no way shape or form is it perceived as magic: it's just like good manners and politeness to the gods and other people, a sort of "take your shoes off at the door" procedural psychic hygiene that looks like magic in a low-magic culture, but looks like hand washing in a high magic culture. The reason I'm zooming in on Hakim Bey is this: I think Hakim Bey subtly broke the world. Like I think he's patient zero for the kind of postmodernism which enables people to want to force their reality tunnel on the world *knowing that it is their own construction and not actually real*. Robert Anton Wilson and co very carefully didn't discuss how reality tunnels spread between people, how people are recruited into reality tunnels and so on. They kept it as an individual practice. Bey makes it clear that groups share reality tunnels: temporary autonomous Zone. Well, that winds up as Tumblr Autonomous Zone pretty quick: people are brewing up reality tunnels of their own (see: otherkin) and then insisting to other people that these homebrew realities are *completely real* and on a par with (say) medical science or orbital mechanics. They organize vicious cancellation gangs to try and force their reality tunnels on each other, using a sense that to go against and outside of the Otherkin reality tunnel makes somebody into A Bad Person because they're violating somebody else's human rights by not believing they are a reincarnation of some specific Pokemon. I trace this like an infection back to Bey, because I think he gave the idea of shared reality tunnels as active processes to a lot of people - not least the San Francisco Cacophony Society - who then ported it to Burning Man. I think it went through Genesis P Orridge through TOPY/TOPI into Tumblr, although I don't know who the intermediaries were. It's a genealogy of ideas, and a practice. A bit like how chaos magic took root on the far right before Trump got elected https://datacide-magazine.com/a-fascist-tulpa-in-the-white-house-right-wing-me me-magic-and-the-rise-of-trump/ and then they all freaked out because Trump, *in practice*, was the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters. So I think the patient zero for "design your own reality then export it to everybody else" is Hakim Bey. And of course the problem with Bey is the extremely intense proximity of his personal life to various aspects of pedophilia. The pain of that discovery broke hearts all over the anarchist world. I don't want to dig all of this out here, but I want to suggest that a very dangerous and flawed variation on the idea that "how you see the world is your mental furniture and you can rearrange it whenever you like" has taken root in the culture. People are taking belief systems which *are not OK* and are harmful to the people sucked into them - shitcoin ponzi schemes in the blockchain space are often built around a charismatic leader - and they're consciously exporting these realities to other people *who then believe them as if they are real*. It's an explosion of what amounts to secular cult activity as these warring reality tunnels smash into each other through social media and cancellation events: "you are no longer part of our reality, JK Rowling." I don't know if there's any way of getting this particular postmodern genie back in its bottle. Maybe some kinds of sacred knowledge, no matter how dangerous they are, become parts of the vernacular and there's no getting them back. "we all create our own reality" goes from a hippie truism to a presidential platform in a couple of generations. If we can't recontain this insight or somehow persuade the general public to lose interest in it - and that seems *VERY* unlikely given the explosion of psychedelic capitalism happening as drugs are decriminalized in America - then we're in a position where we're going to be teaching reality tunnel management and point-of-view hygiene to the public, hoping that they'll learn to maintain their own minds and become resistant to weaponized memes intended to over-write their reality tunnel with that of the psychic aggressor. Virtual reality and drugs are both very likely to put ever-increasing stress on the idea of a single monolithic "real" - the cartesian plane filled with people and things and events. But regulating people's realities and protecting them from bad realities sounds like a reign of magician-kings more than democracy. Trump as a bad magician-king, pulling people up the pied-piper path into an alternate reality in which covid is a democratic disease and Q might be a close friend of his? What kind of politics can fight that? Not Princess Moonbeam, not this time, that's for sure https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/marianne-williamson-drops-out-2 020-presidential-race-n1113676
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permalink #418 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:21
permalink #418 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:21
Loss of all imports and exports is quite the doom scenario. When I think of a collapse of trade I think of North Korea or Cuba. Living under economic sanctions on purpose seems weird? (Which is why I think Mars is silly. There are many remote places here on Earth, any of which would be a warmer place to live and with lower shipping delays.) As an electronics tinkerer I am very aware of my utter dependence on distant electronics factories, global shipping, and hardware distributors. It seems more realistic (we've lived it, briefly) to prepare for supply chain brownouts and delays rather than total blockades? The kind of disaster preparation I'm into is about getting cut off for a limited time, though maybe longer than you'd ideally like.
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permalink #419 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:36
permalink #419 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:36
Brian Slesinsky: the Irish were concerned, if I remember correctly, that a global financial system meltdown would hard-stop world trade for years, a bit like a black grid - and they're a small island without much money, not America. Doomers gonna doom. They were a bit disappointed that it was 3% mortality at the end of the workshop, not 50%. The memory of the Famine is strong. They thought it would be like that again. It wasn't.
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permalink #420 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:45
permalink #420 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Sun 16 Jan 22 16:45
Craig Maudlin: back to cognitive biases. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/50-cognitive-biases-in-the-modern-world/ This sort of stuff seems like a modernized tarot deck to me, where one introspects on each card and finds the places in your life where that cognitive bias has led to bad outcomes. The notion of a modern mystery tradition built around cognitive biases strikes me as more or less where the Rationalist community got started - maybe they didn't realize they were a mystery tradition when they started, but hey... rationality turns out to be hard and paradoxical in extremely unexpected ways, and they've turned Less Wrong into some kind of weird Silicon Valley accelerator for new cults (I think.) What do we do with the limits to our own rationality, once we can define them?
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permalink #421 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 20:45
permalink #421 of 468: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 16 Jan 22 20:45
When you start seeing the cracks in Rationality, it's time to check out David Chapman's writing, such as <https://metarationality.com/>. (It's unfinished, but I think it's a pretty description of the limits of logic and statistics, and the distinction between "reasonable" and "rational" thinking is pretty good.) -- Speaking of cognitive biases, I usually think of aesthetic considerations as fairly shallow but you can't deny their impact in making things seem familiar or foreign. We might take the polarizing aesthetic that cryptocurrency has for example. What is going on there? The moon rockets, diamond hands, laser eyes, and bored apes clearly have their appeal to a core crowd and that's why companies in this space lean into it. Even traditional finance has gotten into the game, the better to attract the meme stock crowd. So it's understandable. But it's hard to give cryptocurrency a fair chance when I find the aesthetic repellent. (Not that I'm entirely immune. I got into DogeCoin because I thought it was a fun joke, but that was when I thought we were throwing coins at each other on Reddit *ironically*, something like Mardi Gras beads.) Giving a gold bar a jokey name might help it sell better than your average everyday gold bar, and even get some people to consider buying one who wouldn't ordinarily think of buying a gold bar at all. But it isn't going to make Ricardian contracts seem respectable, is it? But I'm out of touch and probably the last person anyone should listen to for marketing advice.
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permalink #422 of 468: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sun 16 Jan 22 21:11
permalink #422 of 468: Paulina Borsook (loris) Sun 16 Jan 22 21:11
"It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible...." oscar wilde. because really, we all respond to the cues that tell us 'is this for me? or is this not of my tribe?"
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permalink #423 of 468: George Mokray (jonl) Mon 17 Jan 22 00:22
permalink #423 of 468: George Mokray (jonl) Mon 17 Jan 22 00:22
Via email from George Mokray: According to the NYTimes, the daily death toll of COVID in USAmerica was 1964 on January 16, 2022. I thank them for that information and the good piece on the development of mRNA vaccines they recently published. When I wrote there is little to no mention of this fact, the fact I was referring to is the very little coverage Ive seen about the ongoing ramifications of that daily death toll. At least, not in the papers I read (NYTimes, WashPost, BBC, Guardian ) We are not publicly processing the reality of this number of excess deaths, not actively facing what it actually means. The best Ive seen on the historic overview is this interview with Nick Christakis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhr8Hz03jY I saw a tweet today which went: what if we all got vaccinated, locked ourselves down for a month, wore N95 masks when we went out for essentials only. That would, in all probability, end the pandemic right there. If ALL of us really did that. But weve muddled into an endemic pandemic and the new normal seems, now, to be a regular rotation of new variants and boosters with no end in sight. This kind of refusal to deal with obvious ramifications, existential ramifications, (and obvious solutions) also applies to climate and the inability to imagine anything other than tweaks to business as usual. It is odd to me that the Green New Deal and Build Back Better are, in some ways, less ambitious than Jimmy Carters 1979 energy plan which called for 20% of our energy from renewables by the year 2000 (were about there now, 20 years behind his schedule) and insulating 90% of our homes to higher standards by 1985. Personally, I believe that we can draw enough carbon down out of the sky by the end of the century to return to pre-industrial levels, about 270 ppm (were at over 418 ppm now), by using geotherapy, helping existing ecosystems amplify the natural carbon cycle, consistently and globally from now on. The best resources on geotherapy I know of are at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2021/04/geotherapy-not-geoengineering-please.html Of course, we will have to zero out greenhouse gas emissions too in order to accomplish this. But again, I dont see this geotherapeutic possibility in the public conversation. I dont see us discussing a unifying vision of a positive future that we can start building now, which is the only way, I believe, you can build a future. Id start from Solar IS Civil Defense, prepare for the next weather emergency whatever you think about climate in a way that will increase resilience (and speed the necessary transition), and proceed from there to solar swadeshi. I say that every year here to little discernable effect though I still think it is a practical and affordable way forward. For me, the livable future was pioneered and modeled by New Alchemy Institute but it seems it takes too much work to ever catch on.
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permalink #424 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Mon 17 Jan 22 04:55
permalink #424 of 468: Vinay Gupta (hexayurt) Mon 17 Jan 22 04:55
George Mokray: I've got a slightly dim awareness of New Alchemy - "living machines" that purify water and produce fish and fertilizer is what I remember. What else did they do? What's good to read about NAI? I hear they were absolute wizards, but it's harder to get hold of their material than (say) Buckminster Fuller! Could you post some links, please?
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permalink #425 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 17 Jan 22 06:01
permalink #425 of 468: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 17 Jan 22 06:01
Xi Jinping is Green-New-Dealing it over at Davos. https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-01-17/Full-text-Xi-Jinping-s-address-to-2022-W orld-Economic-Forum-16TN5povxKM/index.html China will stay committed to promoting ecological conservation. As I have said many times, we should never grow the economy at the cost of resource depletion and environmental degradation, which is like draining a pond to get fish; nor should we sacrifice growth to protect the environment, which is like climbing a tree to catch fish. Guided by our philosophy that lucid waters and lush mountains are invaluable assets, China has carried out holistic conservation and systematic governance of its mountains, rivers, forests, farmlands, lakes, grasslands and deserts. We do everything we can to conserve the ecological system, intensify pollution prevention and control, and improve the living and working environment for our people. China is now putting in place the world's largest national parks system. Last year, we successfully hosted COP15 to the Convention on Biological Diversity, contributing China's share to a clean and beautiful world. Achieving carbon peak and carbon neutrality are the intrinsic requirements of China's own high-quality development and a solemn pledge to the international community. China will honor its word and keep working toward its goal. We have unveiled an Action Plan for Carbon Dioxide Peaking Before 2030, to be followed by implementation plans for specific sectors such as energy, industry and construction. China now has the world's biggest carbon market and biggest clean power generation system: the installed capacity of renewable energy has exceeded one billion kilowatts, and the construction of wind and photovoltaic power stations with a total installed capacity of 100 million kilowatts is well under way. Carbon peak and carbon neutrality cannot be realized overnight. Through solid and steady steps, China will pursue an orderly phase-down of traditional energy in the course of finding reliable substitution in new energy. This approach, which combines phasing out the old and bringing in the new, will ensure steady economic and social development. China will also actively engage in international cooperation on climate and jointly work for a complete transition to a greener economy and society.
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