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permalink #0 of 124: Inkwell Host (jonl) Sat 3 Jun 23 05:41
permalink #0 of 124: Inkwell Host (jonl) Sat 3 Jun 23 05:41
Inkwell welcomes Andrew Alden for a discussion of his new book, _Deep Oakland: How Geology Shaped a City_ <https://www.heydaybooks.com/catalog/deep-oakland/>. Andrew turned a fascination with landscapes and rocks into a degree in Earth science and a career as an editor of geoscience papers, starting with the US Geological Survey. After moving to Oakland just two weeks before the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, his awareness slowly changed. Once focused on remote, wild places and specialized topics, like most of the research geologists he worked with, he found his interest kindled by the local geological richness of his city, and he began to explore it systematically. His explorations led to writing this book, which tells the braided stories of deep geological Oakland and deep historical Oakland. Through his writing Andrew raises awareness of what he calls the deep present: the appreciation of the ancient underpinnings that shape the modern-day surroundings of daily life. His website is <https://oaklandgeology.com/>, started in 2007 and still in progress. He has been on the WELL since 1991, and is a host of the earthquakes, science, and space conferences. Mary Mazzocco leads the conversation with Andrew. Mary has been an Oakland resident for 35 years, and was the books page editor of the "Contra Costa Times" before becoming a journalism educator in 2000. She hikes and watches birds recreationally in what she and Andrew call the Oakland Hills.
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permalink #1 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Sat 3 Jun 23 09:28
permalink #1 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Sat 3 Jun 23 09:28
Andrew, in your public geology blog, you talk about how DEEP OAKLAND evolved from an earlier manuscript that was aimed at what you call geologizers, instead of a general audience. Can you talk a little about that process? Is there something you had to drop from the revised version that you wish you could have kept? *Link to the blog: https://oaklandgeology.com/2023/05/01/yay-its-book-week/
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permalink #2 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 3 Jun 23 11:42
permalink #2 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 3 Jun 23 11:42
Well, I started out to put down in one place all the stuff I'd learned about Oakland's geology. I was thinking about readers who are already fans of the rocks and landforms of this city, which I found to be unexpectedly rich and worthy of wider attention. That first effort, which I also gave the title "Deep Oakland," is quite different from the book we're here to discuss. It kind of marches through the subject in seven big chapters: Geography and Topography The Earth Machine (a mini-Geology 101) The Diverse Rocks of Oakland Geologizing in Oakland (how and where) Seven Episodes from Oakland's Deep History The Human Geology of Oakland Life in the Deep Present I was getting near the end of it, wrestling with the harder stuff, and thought I'd better start shopping it around. Heyday Books bit the bait, then they set their hook back on me: How about doing more with the human part and not so much with the rocks part? I thought "all RIGHT!" and started over from scratch. That took a couple more years, but it was fun work even though the Covid pandemic struck and I couldn't visit the library. The hidden blessing of that was that I avoided a lot of tempting rabbit holes of historical research and was able to portray subjects with a broad brush while remaining scrupulously accurate. The two books, the first manuscript and the printed title, are completely separate. Also, Heyday imposed a word count that forced me to, as writers says, kill my darlings. I do think that readers who really get into DEEP OAKLAND the book will be ready for the deep-dive manuscript if I want to try publishing it. That's over the horizon for me at the moment.
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permalink #3 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Sat 3 Jun 23 13:05
permalink #3 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Sat 3 Jun 23 13:05
I feel like human geology is a good way to describe the current book, but I dont know if I could easily define what that term means. Help me out here!
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permalink #4 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 3 Jun 23 13:06
permalink #4 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 3 Jun 23 13:06
There is one thing I wanted to keep in the book but had to cut. I discovered something about the first set of streets that were laid out in the early 1850s, and I pasted it in the Oakland Wiki just to publish it somehow: "The historical core of Oakland was defined by the three scoundrel founders and the street plan they had surveyed by Julius Kellersberger in 1852. The names of the streets, which must have chosen in consultation with the founders, imply an attempt to strike a delicate political balance in the uneasy times before the Civil War. The first pair of streets flanking Broadway was named for George Washington, a Southerner, on the west and Benjamin Franklin, a Northerner, on the east. Next came a pair named for Henry Clay and Daniel Webster, the senators from South and North respectively who brought California into the Union as part of the Compromise of 1850. Third came streets named for Thomas Jefferson and William Henry âTippecanoeâ Harrison. The names of successive outlying streets declined in prestige to West Street on the one side and Oak Street on the other."
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permalink #5 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 3 Jun 23 13:14
permalink #5 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 3 Jun 23 13:14
Ah, you slipped in while I was writing that. "Human geology" is one of the backbones of DEEP OAKLAND the book. It's about how the three waves of human inhabitants -- the Ohlones, the Spanish/Mexicans, and the American -- perceived and used the landscape. To the Ohlones it was a world, a homeland that they had groomed over the centuries to sustain a lifestyle that in turn was carefully tuned to the landscape that they maintained by the skilled use of fire. To the next wave it was empty ranchland best suited to raise livestock and support a vaquero- centered lifestyle of petit aristocracy. And to the Americans it was a cabinet of resources just waiting to be turned into money. The rest of that chapter is more detail about the quarries and mines, the water supply, the immense work of building the harbor and airport, and so on. In the book, I weaved all of that into each of the eleven chapters, which focus on specific landscape features that define the city.
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permalink #6 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Tue 6 Jun 23 08:56
permalink #6 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Tue 6 Jun 23 08:56
Fascinating tidbit about the politics of the street names! It was surprising to learn how much mineral wealth our early scoundrels extracted from the town, and how much all that excavation shaped the environment. Im thinking of the story behind the Leona Heights neighborhood, which certainly would have looked a lot different than it does now.
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permalink #7 of 124: Scott Underwood (esau) Tue 6 Jun 23 09:42
permalink #7 of 124: Scott Underwood (esau) Tue 6 Jun 23 09:42
Andrew, I really enjoyed the book, the content as well as the writing. You have a knack for alliteration, memorable phrases, the occasional allusion -- "the very model of a modern Oakland suburb tract" -- and I admire the terrific neologism "landslaughter." I was also intrigued but not shocked at the stories of extraction that shaped the city. After understanding the loss of the Ohlones' environment, and in the end it may be more surprising how much beauty survived rather than the neighborhoods that were lost or utterly altered. That is, it coulda been worse!
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permalink #8 of 124: Administrivia (jonl) Tue 6 Jun 23 12:28
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permalink #9 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Tue 6 Jun 23 13:16
permalink #9 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Tue 6 Jun 23 13:16
Mary, I tried to reserve my contempt for the three founders of Oakland, who really were scoundrels by any standard, then and now. The other exploiters of Oakland's geological wealth (stone, soil, sulfur etc.) were typical Americans of the time. It would've been easy to castigate them, considering that their activities imposed costs on their descendants. I'm thinking of the pyrite mines in Leona Heights and the quarry pits all over the hils, which left acid drainage in the one case and ugly crumbling holes in the other. But showering them with blame would imply that we are any better, and only posterity can make that judgment. I also tried to avoid any undue contrast with the Ohlones -- the Oaklanders of prehistoric time -- who laid their own trip on the countryside by burning it regularly. Instead, they were miners and traders just as the Mexican ranchers and American capitalists were and are. Scott, I laid the text with easter eggs of many sorts. I wanted the text to be its own rich reward, and I'm pleased that it pleased you.
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permalink #10 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Wed 7 Jun 23 12:47
permalink #10 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Wed 7 Jun 23 12:47
One reason for writing this book is that Oakland is a kind of full course buffet for geologists. Can you talk a little bit about what makes the city unusual, if not unique, in geological terms?
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permalink #11 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Wed 7 Jun 23 16:00
permalink #11 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Wed 7 Jun 23 16:00
Oakland really is a geological smorgasbord, with a lot of variety inside its boundaries, and yet it's well organized geographically too. When I first plotted out the book, I realized that I could cover all of it under eleven neat headings. The high hills, the flats and shore, the downtown, Piedmont, the old mining district, the Hayward fault and so on -- they had clean borderlines and distinct stories. Just seeing that as a writer, Oakland lends itself to a book-length treatment. Geologically, Oakland's rocks are examples of major California provinces: the huge thick sedimentary sequence of the Central Valley, the enigmatic scramble of the Franciscan Complex, the exotic oceanic rocks of the Coast Range ophiolite. It has a long stretch of the active Hayward fault, "secret shaper of the whole," running its length and presenting issues that are common to every California city. And to my delight, Oakland also has striking examples of ice-age landforms, created during geologically recent times, hiding in plain sight. When I gave a presentation to East Bay Nerd Nite a few years ago, I counted up all the various rock types to be found here -- sandstone, shale, conglomerate, etc -- I quickly rang up a couple dozen different names, including some rare ones like peridotite, blueschist, porcelanite. I made the claim, which no one has since disputed, that Oakland has more types of rock than any other city in the United States. Certainly the usual contenders, like New York (which is no slouch in that regard), don't measure up to Oakland. You throw in a few classic Geology 101 things like water gaps and drowned valleys and offset streams -- AND pyrite mines that produce Appalachia-style acid drainage, and Oakland constitutes almost a full textbook of geology.
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permalink #12 of 124: Scott Underwood (esau) Wed 7 Jun 23 16:34
permalink #12 of 124: Scott Underwood (esau) Wed 7 Jun 23 16:34
How distinct is that from the rest of the Bay Area? That is, would San Francisco, San Jose, or Fremont have provided as rich a geological meal?
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permalink #13 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Wed 7 Jun 23 17:18
permalink #13 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Wed 7 Jun 23 17:18
Each of those cities covers a land area comparable to Oakland, and each has plenty of geological interest. But only Oakland has the intimate and pervasive relationship between its human history and its geological setting that animates DEEP OAKLAND. Fremont: too young; San Jose: not *driven* the way Oakland was; San Francisco: geologically simple. They share a lot with Oakland, but I've lived in Oakland for 33 years and have achieved a degree of authority here.
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permalink #14 of 124: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Wed 7 Jun 23 18:12
permalink #14 of 124: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Wed 7 Jun 23 18:12
You can follow what Andrew says in <13> at a very coarse scale on the Geologic Map of California: <https://maps.conservation.ca.gov/cgs/gmc/>
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permalink #15 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 8 Jun 23 07:45
permalink #15 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 8 Jun 23 07:45
Speaking of maps, getting a review copy without maps made me think about how important visuals are to understanding a geographic place. How did you think about creating visuals with your writing? (E.g. alternating chert layers in Claremont Shale look like "a storm-swept forest of golden bamboo.")
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permalink #16 of 124: David Gans (tnf) Thu 8 Jun 23 09:06
permalink #16 of 124: David Gans (tnf) Thu 8 Jun 23 09:06
Nothing to add yet other than my praise for the writing and the beauty of the book!
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permalink #17 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 8 Jun 23 09:10
permalink #17 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 8 Jun 23 09:10
I am ashamed that I did not immediately associate geology with lyrical prose!
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permalink #18 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 12:01
permalink #18 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 12:01
Publishing a geology-centered book without maps is a challenge, for sure. My blog posts are essentially driven by images, so it wasn't always easy for me to rely on words alone, but I felt it was essential to try. After all, a book on human history wouldn't illustrate everything. Another thing was that I wrote DEEP OAKLAND for my fellow locals, and I counted on them to picture what I was saying in their imaginations. Heyday Books didn't propose an illustration program beyond the block diagrams that introduce each chapter, and I didn't want the complication of dealing with photos and diagrams. What that meant was that the prose had to be crystal clear, based on clear ideas and thoughts. I had fun with it too, with allusions to literature and song lyrics meant to elicit the occasional chuckle of recognition. My model was Peter Grinspoon's EARTH IN HUMAN HANDS, which is sprinkled with snatches of Grateful Dead lyrics as well as deep thoughts well expressed. Geology is widely considered a dry subject. I wanted to avoid any hint of the conventional, default textbook treatment of a subject I find full of juice, to speak of the planet's workings with the same voice I used to treat the city's human development.
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permalink #19 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 13:03
permalink #19 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 13:03
Correction: that's David Grinspoon. His brother Peter is the cannabis authority, whereas David's expertise is Venus and planets in general.
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permalink #20 of 124: Frako Loden (frako) Thu 8 Jun 23 14:42
permalink #20 of 124: Frako Loden (frako) Thu 8 Jun 23 14:42
Andy, our copy of _Deep Oakland_ keeps traveling around the house because Joe is reading it and I'm trying to keep it close to hand for this conversation. It was a quick and very interesting read for me. I don't have a specific question right now, but I'm leafing through it and finding paragraphs I marked as being of particular interest. One huge takeaway for me was FINALLY appreciating the role of the Hayward Fault as "secret shaper of the whole." Recently we went on a walk around Lake Temescal on a water theme. You wrote about it: "In repeated visits, I've watched the cracks at Lake Temescal lengthen and open. Nearby is an underground chamber where a wire thirty meters long stretches across the fault between two concrete piers. Records from this creepmeter show that the fault silently moves about three millimeters a year" (7). Do other faults have creepmeters like this???
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permalink #21 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 14:56
permalink #21 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 14:56
A few do, mainly the San Andreas. Creepmeters are expensive to install and finicky to operate. Their data can be affected by the annual rainfall cycle, as one example. Nowadays we get good data from space-based techniques that rely on synoptic data that cover a lot of ground at once, based on GPS receivers and side-scan satellite radar. One of my big goals for the book is to get people to visit the fault now, while it's sleeping. So I'm glad you're taking its lessons to the street!
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permalink #22 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 8 Jun 23 15:25
permalink #22 of 124: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 8 Jun 23 15:25
I know I have probably walked on top of the creepmeter. Creepy! The Oakland Zoo has a nice interpretive display for visualizing the Hayward Fault's movement.
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permalink #23 of 124: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 8 Jun 23 15:31
permalink #23 of 124: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 8 Jun 23 15:31
The San Andreas Fault had medium-large ruptures an average of 22 years apart in the same area of central California, which fed the suspicion that there would be another one soon. Scientists installed a lot of measuring devices in this region in the hope that they'd be able to see more precisely how a fault rupture works. Unfortunately for the experiment the next earthquake was late by several decades. In the meantime smaller earthquakes provided data for some very interesting modeling of earthquake processes.
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permalink #24 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 17:28
permalink #24 of 124: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 8 Jun 23 17:28
Yes, a creepmeter at Parkfield was maintained there for many years by one persistent scientist who kept scraping the funds together. It's a dusty little ranching town much beloved by California geologists. The last time I was down there was to see the amazing Parkfield Interventional EQ Fieldwork: <https://allshookup.org/pieqf/> The monitoring project you mention, <karish>, took advantage of a lucky string of regular repeated earthquakes, but I blieved at the time and still do that the coincidence was not important, although it was a good hook for funding important research.
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permalink #25 of 124: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 8 Jun 23 17:54
permalink #25 of 124: Virtual Sea Monkey (karish) Thu 8 Jun 23 17:54
Yes, I'd been taught that there was an uncanny repetition at equal intervals. Then I looked at the dates! There was a lot of variance.
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