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permalink #126 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 10 Jun 24 11:34
permalink #126 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 10 Jun 24 11:34
(proving once again that ppl who can create wonderful stuff are not necessarily kind/evolved souls.)
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permalink #127 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Mon 10 Jun 24 11:36
permalink #127 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Mon 10 Jun 24 11:36
PKD's abandonment issues and flashes of anger are a clue that he might've had BPD, I wonder if he was ever diagnosed?
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permalink #128 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 10 Jun 24 12:52
permalink #128 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 10 Jun 24 12:52
super drifty, but i dont think bpd was much understood/documented/discussed back then. also, afaik, there is no real RX for bpd; it's mostly a label for others to help understand such a person.
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permalink #129 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 13:20
permalink #129 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 13:20
Thank you so much for that post, mag/tiff, saying so clearly what I have never exactly been able to put into words without blaming myself. Phil, never apologized specifically for the violence. referring to it as "the trouble between us." He did address it, I think, somewhat obliquely, in a subsequent letter, while also pointing out how we were both complicit: "Dear Linda, "I have so much regretted the trouble between us, Linda, that caused the breakdown of our relationship. We are both troubled people, dark and clouded; like you I have my own periods of fire mixed with ice in which the intensity of my feelings gets too strong. Like you I sometimes withdraw. Like you I now and then reject another person because I am becoming too involved with that person and hence too dependent. I thought I saw you today --Sunday-- at the wheel of your car and the sight of you did me in. There you were again, beautiful and little and bright. But I can't handle you, Linda; every time we're together you do a number on my head. I'd like to withdraw any criticism I've made of you, though, really..." There's more, but copyright, etc... I don't know that there has ever been a clear, definitive diagnosis. Paranoia, schizophrenia, along with a host of phobias have been mentioned. I never heard BPD mentioned, though. According to the Bristol University Press, it didn't appear in the DSM until 1980. All of this happened in the 70's. He died in 1982; I don't know if the diagnosis would even have been common enough back then to have been considered. <druid> writes: "I don't know half of the relevant details, but from what's been said here I would surmise that "the dark-haired girl" is PKD's anima archetype and that he had major issues with his own feminine side." Apparently, the search for the dark-haired girl stems from the fact that he had a twin sister who died six weeks after they were born. His mother said that she had dark-hair. Subsequently, stories have emerged that his mother was unable to produce enough milk for both of them, that Phil got the lion's share, and that Jane died of malnutrition. From what I've heard, she was unable to get the medical and emotional support she needed to feed them. She called the doctors asking about formula - remember, this was the 1920's; I don't know that commercial formula was even widely available - although a medical team was dispatched, it's not known what they recommended, and Phil's father had ensconced himself at his office so that he didn't have to hear the babies cry. Also, to complicate things, at that time the advice to young mothers was to let babies cry, not to pick them up or comfort them, which went against all of her maternal instincts. I feel the utmost sympathy for her. Phil paints her as evil when he talks about her. He thought she should have been "put out to sea." But, like everything, it was complicated.
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permalink #130 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 13:25
permalink #130 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 13:25
Speaking of his twin sister...they are both buried in Ft. Morgan, Colorado, where the 3rd International Philip K. Dick Festival starts on Friday. A visit to the gravesite is included as one of the events. If you watched the video I posted, you know that when Jane died, a double headstone was created, engraved with Jane's dates of birthday and death on the left side side, and with Phil's date of birth on the right side, just waiting for his date of death to be added.
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permalink #131 of 241: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Mon 10 Jun 24 13:43
permalink #131 of 241: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Mon 10 Jun 24 13:43
That was less weird in the era of the family burial plot than it sounds today. (Still a little weird, though.)
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permalink #132 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:00
permalink #132 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:00
To address Tessa's claims that I, a "certain Linda Levy" am not "the dark-haired girl" and that Phil in love several times a day, and that the beating did not take place. I have never claimed to be *the* dark-haired girl. I am *a* dark-haired girl. We know that there were many, but four of us were specifically identified. Later, Tessa said she claimed the beating never took place because she didn't want their son, Christopher, to read that about his father. I didn't know that I was one of the dark-haired girls until after Phil died and Paul Williams came to see me in El Toro where I was living then. He told me about the book The Dark-Haired Girl and asked if it was okay to use my real name. Paul wrote the introduction to the book; it is VERY long, and so well-written that I want to quote all of it, but here are a few bits and pieces: "I was hired in 1983 by Dick's estate to be his "literary executor": my primary task has been to supervise publication of his unpublished writings. In November 1984 I assembled the book you see here, adding what I felt to be related pieces (related in in spirit, subject matter, and/or theme) to Dick's original manuscript THE DARK-HAIRED GIRL...I was in 1972 the first editor to whom the book was submitted... [...] "Adding 'Man, Android and Machine' [the title of the speech that Phil gave in Vancouver, his original purpose in traveling there] followed logically, since even the title of the essay says it is further musings on the theme of the earlier lecture. That leaves the poem and the letters and this part of the process bordered on the mysterious: Philip K. Dick when he died left behind an enormous pile of papers, including thousands of pages of letters and carbons of letters. As I worked on this book (it started as a casual, long-term project, but suddenly I was pulled into it almost violently, unable to do anything else for three or four days in a row) letters seemed to leap out at me as I flipped through the files. The little story that ends this book, originally written as a letter to Linda Levy, amazed me because I had never seen it before, never noticed there was this delicious, unpublished short story hiding among the correspondence, until the day I found myself putting together this book, at which point it all but jumped from the files and put itself into my hands."
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permalink #133 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:18
permalink #133 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:18
Introduction to The Dark-Haired Girl, continued... "But what is disturbing to me about this book doesn't have to do with how it put itself together. Rather it has to do with how openly Philip K. Dick shares his own troubled state of mind herein. His was in many ways, much of the time, a dysfunctional life. That's a loaded word; often we use it as though there were such a thing as a normal, or non-dysfunctional, life, which of course there isn't. And certainly, if we judge (ahem) Dick's life in terms of his art, of what he has given us his readers, we must regard it as extremely functional. It sure did allow him to produce a lot of great writing. "But it also caused him tremendous pain and confronted him with repeated failure in the area that he himself identified (in his writing) as being of primary importance: human relationships. There are passages in this book that document this rather starkly. And there are also passages, and this is what I find most disturbing, that show that Dick was not particularly conscious of the extent of his own self-absorption and consequent cruelty to those closest to him (wives, girlfriends, children, parents). I believe that Dick was often unaware that when he wrote (as he does so eloquently in the present volume) about the split between the human and the inhuman, between the empathetic person and the schizoid, he was in fact writing about the struggle inside himself. [...] "This is a tale told by an unreliable narrator, who recognizes his own unreliability and yet at the same time believes everything he says. If you in turn allow yourself to believe uncritically everything he says, you are a damn fool. Watch out. Especially if you think you are not a damn fool, watch out."
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permalink #134 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:30
permalink #134 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:30
Introduction to The Dark-Haired Girl, continued... "On December 1st, 1972, Dick wrote in a letter to Roger Zelazny:'What his all has been is an identify crisis such as Jung spoke of: it hits you in middle life, all your values go to pieces, you can't work or function, you just wander off. When I flew to Vancouver in February I knew no one there, had never been to Canada. If ever anyone could be said to have lost their identity, I did: at X-Kalay they thought I was some dope fiend in there off the street -- they knew me only as Phil, which was fine. I was stacking lumber on East Sunday in another country with two other riffraff types, one from the Mafia. After we piled the lumber I sat for a time on the curb watching the cars go by, and I felt really happy; I had for sure shaken the past. I was a man without a history. What a relief and a release; all my fears were gone and I could relax. I could do or be anything. What supplied my continuity, however, was one goal that didn't disappear from me: my search for the dark-haired girl, which I wrote about in letter after letter, often to the dark-haired girl herself (Kathy in San Rafael, Jamis in Vancouver, then later on Linda in Fullerton). I've now put together 127 pages of these letters, written from Feb to Nov of this year, and sent them to my agent as a sort of journal.' He told another correspondent that he was starting work on a new novel, to be entitled Kathy-Jamis-Linda. "The manuscript send to the Scott Meredith Literary Agency was entitled THE DARK-HAIRED GIRL: A SEARCH FOR THE AUTHENTIC HUMAN BEING."
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permalink #135 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:38
permalink #135 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:38
Introduction to The Dark-Haired Girl, continued... "The title page of the first draft has the title of the book as THE DARK-HAIRED GIRL: A SEARCH FOR THE OTHER. This draft includes an interpolated page, 1-A which reads: 'Note: 'These are actual girls, actual letters, actual events and places and miseries & actual final joy. The period covered is from March 1972 to October 1972, eight months in which I searched for -- and found -- the dark-haired girl again whom I had left behind I thought forever. Her name is KATHY-JAMIS-LINDA-TESSA. She is sitting beside me now, wondering why the hell I am spending my time writing this stuff. In my novel WE CAN BUILD YOU, Louis Rosen found her and then lost her. I did it the other way.'"
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permalink #136 of 241: Frako Loden (frako) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:40
permalink #136 of 241: Frako Loden (frako) Mon 10 Jun 24 14:40
I've been mulling over three of the letters, all of which I think are from mid- to late June 1972 and begin "I'm so sorry," "I'm sorry if the two postcards bothered you," and "I have so much regretted the trouble between us." I'm struck by what an apology means to PKD, or what he hopes to gain by apologizing, and how his apology or regret is mixed with a vision of you, Linda, as someone sitting still or driving past. Either way, you are unavailable to him. You're not really real. In the "I'm so sorry" letter, he mentions "how you looked Sunday morning in that dress, with your eyes so dark and sad." He says that Joe (from the Tustin Rap Center) also remembered seeing you, "both with me and that first time you came in." And all he can see in his mind is "you sitting in your living room when I came over Sunday morning." Sitting there, not saying anything. In the "Sorry if the two postcards bothered you" letter, he thinks he saw you "wave at me as you drove by," and in the "I have so much regretted" letter he thinks he saw you "at the wheel of your car." You're whizzing past, just a vision speeding by. That letter is more interesting than the others because it includes this bit of self-analysis: "Like you I sometimes withdraw. Like you I now and then reject another person because I am becoming too involved with that person and hence too dependent." I'm not concluding anything about you or PKD based on these three letters, but they are interesting to look at as apologies and how they depict you the apologizee. In "I'm so sorry," he doesn't mention what he's apologizing for but he does say he was "just tired, very tired." And he declares that, after his conversation with Joe, his vision of you "blots out every other feeling and thought I have or ever had." In the "Sorry if the two postcards" letter, he's apologizing for sending "some trippy stuff, weird stuff." But the underlying message of this apology seems to be a plea for you not to worry: "Don't be afraid so much; don't worry and all will go okay." He seems to be humoring your for being bothered. In the "I have so much regretted" letter, PKD's depiction of your relationship definitely seems set in the past. What he regrets is "the trouble between us, Linda, that caused the breakdown of our relationship." He seems to have given up on any reconciliation since "I can't handle you, Linda; every time we're together you do a number on my head." He describes any possible reunion as a fanciful communication, nothing directly from you but "a note in a bottle . . . skywriting . . . an ad . . . a piece of junkmail." He offers his love but there's something blithe and cheerful about it, like he's not expecting you to do anything with it and that's fine.
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permalink #137 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 15:56
permalink #137 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 15:56
I did talk a little about one of those apologies in response 129, in which he talks about how we both are, and how that makes me complicit, in his behavior. Looking at these apologies with a sorrywatch.com checklist, which I can never avoid these days, he never says what he's apologize for, with the exception of the postcards. I love your analysis. I'm always sitting, saying nothing, or speeding by. That is fascinating to me. I've been reading these letters for over 50 years and never saw the symbolism in that. It looks like I'm an object to be described, talked, or written about but never allowed to speak for myself. That makes me perfect to be projected upon. Until I'm being excoriated, of course, for speaking to Tessa and what I say doesn't match the projection. Not that my advice isn't appropriate, but it wasn't part of the script, and when that happened the rest of the projection falls apart and reveals my true, evil intent. What else could my speaking up be but something designed to destroy Phil? Here are the postcards, BTW. Postcard 1, side 1 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gemznbeadz/53783367523/in/dateposted-public/ Postcard 1, side 2 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gemznbeadz/53782216277/in/dateposted-public/ Postcard 2, side 1 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gemznbeadz/53783575820/in/dateposted-public/ Postcard 2, side 2 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gemznbeadz/53782216272/in/dateposted-public/ I wonder if he went all the way to Knott's Berry Farm to get them.
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permalink #138 of 241: Frako Loden (frako) Mon 10 Jun 24 16:38
permalink #138 of 241: Frako Loden (frako) Mon 10 Jun 24 16:38
I'd be a little bothered by those postcards too, if I got them! He seems to have sent them to you "so maybe you'd come by and we could be friends again." Did he think the references to masturbation and "vaginal politics" would make you desire him and visit him?
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permalink #139 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 16:47
permalink #139 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 16:47
There's one more in the vitriol category, that I was hoping <ohbejoyful> would come by and mention, but it fits perfectly here, so I will post about it. It's handwritten on lined paper. The message is brief. "Dear Linda, "These are very nice people - you go and talk to them & you'll feel a lot better, once you share your problems with them. You need professional help. [underlined.] They can & will help you, especially Mrs. Hilliard. Cordially, Phil Mrs. Hilliard's card is helpfully enclosed. She works for the Department of Mental Health in Fullerton. There's a date on the back; maybe he has made an appointment for me.
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permalink #140 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 10 Jun 24 17:45
permalink #140 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Mon 10 Jun 24 17:45
it sounds terrifying to have been on the receiving end of all this
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permalink #141 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 18:07
permalink #141 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 10 Jun 24 18:07
Well, it was certainly different from what of the rest of the gang experienced. Maer Wilson, one of the Quartz Lane neighbors, wrote a book called The Other Side of Philip K. Dick: A Tale of Two Friends, with a forward by Tim Powers. Here's what it says on Amazon: "As a literary figure, Philip K. Dick is popularly perceived as a crazed, drug-addled mystic with a sinister Third Eye. Nothing could be further from the truth - the Phil I knew was a warm, humane, very funny man. Maer Wilson understands these truths far better than I, and The Other Side of Philip K. Dick casts a welcome shaft of daylight upon the real PKD, as opposed to the dark, distorted caricature Dick has become. Paul M. Sammon, Author of Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner What is the truth behind the legend of Science Fiction great, Philip K. Dick? In spring, 1972, Phil Dick moved to Fullerton, CA, where he met Theatre student Mary (Maer) Wilson. Amid marriage proposals, marathon talk-fests and a love for music and films, they forged a strong friendship that would last the rest of his life. Wilsons quirky, yet unflinchingly honest, memoir reveals a funny, compassionate and generous man. She captures an inside view of one of our literary greats a brilliant writer who gave the world some of its most revered Science Fiction. I found this book engrossing and authentic a truthful and serious account of the last part of Phil Dicks life by someone who was a fundamental part of it and who has the skill to write about it. There is evident love and friendship in this book, but also honesty. This was the Phil Dick I knew. James P. Blaylock, World Fantasy Award-Winning Author" As different as night and day. Phil used to spend Thanksgiving with Maer's family. She never saw the side of Phil that I did, and I mostly didn't see the side she did. As simplistic as this sounds: she was a redhead.
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permalink #142 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Tue 11 Jun 24 04:48
permalink #142 of 241: Inkwell Co-host (jonl) Tue 11 Jun 24 04:48
Linda and Tim, did either of you ever connect with "Kathy in San Rafael" or "Jamis in Vancouver"?
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permalink #143 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 11 Jun 24 08:55
permalink #143 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 11 Jun 24 08:55
I didnt.
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permalink #144 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Tue 11 Jun 24 09:45
permalink #144 of 241: Tim Powers (tpowers) Tue 11 Jun 24 09:45
Jon, no, I never met them or had any contact with them. I seem to recall that there was some talk of Kathy flying down to visit, but it never came to anything.
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permalink #145 of 241: Jonathan Lethem (jlethem) Tue 11 Jun 24 10:20
permalink #145 of 241: Jonathan Lethem (jlethem) Tue 11 Jun 24 10:20
Hi all. I want to leap in briefly. First, say how grateful I am to Linda for her persistent grace in carrying this terrible knowledge, carrying it through time and placing it so simply before us. Your kindness to PKD, now and then, is remarkable under the circumstances. At a moment where readers of this thread may be somewhat stunned into silence by the revelations about "our hero", I'll say that I'm thinking a lot about this stuff in light of my current renewed researches on PKD before the Festival this coming weekend, where I'll try to put some of this in the context of his writing life. I want to say something that I hope will not seem flippant or odd: The cruelty and coldness you experienced from Dick may not have been so much a bug as a feature. That's to say, the argument about android v. machine in him was also taking place in his life, in his body, in his own choices and responses. Even if he failed to accept this and instead projected it onto others -- and so often, and tragically, he projected it onto a woman. A dark-haired girl. So when you say "she was a redhead", what you're saying is that in a very sad way, hair-color was a kind of dumbed-down Voight-Kampf Test he was applying. Without understanding that he was actually looking in a mirror. So, that the coldness he thought he detected in you was a terror-vision of the empathy-devoid android self he most feared in himself. So -- perhaps the same thing he processed so powerfully for us in his art (even if processed incompletely, by definition) was inverted into a nightmare in his behavior.
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permalink #146 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 11 Jun 24 10:47
permalink #146 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 11 Jun 24 10:47
watching pkd being consistently a coherent sociable self with maur must have been painful because it implied he had some conscious control about when/how to given into his demons.
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permalink #147 of 241: Jonathan Lethem (jlethem) Tue 11 Jun 24 12:08
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permalink #148 of 241: Jonathan Lethem (jlethem) Tue 11 Jun 24 12:09
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permalink #149 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 11 Jun 24 14:43
permalink #149 of 241: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 11 Jun 24 14:43
I will say more later, but for now, quickly... Jonathan, regarding feature versus bug, I'm wondering if you saw what I posted in response 84? >>It becomes apparent very quickly that Phil is mentally ill. But its part and parcel of his genius. Without his unique vision we wouldnt be talking about him today. Without his difficult to consistently categorize brand of insanity, there would be no vision, and we wouldnt be talking about him today.<< >>watching pkd being consistently a coherent sociable self with maur must have been painful because it implied he had some conscious control about when/how to given into his demons.<< Paulina, I wouldn't have known anything about it until Maer wrote about it. I thought it was interesting that he did have some conscious control, he would have had to have had [now there's a grammatical brain twister for a non-Native English speaker] in order to navigate the world and his professional life. But he was triggered by strong feelings that he calls love regarding dark-haired girls that resulted in anger and acting out.
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permalink #150 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 11 Jun 24 15:01
permalink #150 of 241: Paulina Borsook (loris) Tue 11 Jun 24 15:01
when did you find out about maer's mostly-positive experiences? and yes, that is one of the dilemmas with our culture of therapy/pathologizing so much: if we medicate away the bumpy bits or the people who have them, then...'listening to prozac' touched on this.
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