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permalink #152 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 17:50
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Oh, Van. Van, Van, Van. Remember when he was the golden boy? >>Jones, a former special adviser to President Barack Obama, said Harris star-studded campaign events in the days leading up to the election felt eerily similar to the final days of Hillary Clintons failed White House bid in 2016 ... he was skeptical that her final swing-state push, which has featured celebs like Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Oprah Winfrey, will actually convince working-class people to vote blue. The other thing that makes me nervous, in 2016, we had a big star-studded event right on the edge of the election, and we lost the state, Jones said on CNN Monday. I dont think people understand, working people sometimes have to choose. Am I going to go to the big, cool concert and pay for babysitting for that or am I going to figure out a way to get to the polls? I dont like these big, star-studded events, he said. I dont want people going to concerts. I want people out there knocking on doors, I want people out there fighting for this thing.<< THEY'VE BEEN FUCKING KNOCKING ON DOORS FOR WEEKS, VAN. And tweeting, and texting, and calling, and emailing, and sending postcards. Jeezus.
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permalink #153 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:01
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Meanwhile, the NY Times has introduced a half-circle-style meter, with the needle wavering back and forth between Kamala and the Sweet Potato Hitler with every new number coming in. In case you're not fretting enough. <https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president- forecast-needle.html>
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permalink #155 of 541: magdalen (magdalen) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:03
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here in Oregon i will be looking at the District 5 race for US Congress. i'm in the new D5. the Republicans saw a clear threat to their (awful, awful!) incumbent, Lori Chavez-DeRemer, and poured PAC money into the campaign. i wrote about her here: https://www.nuggetnews.com/story/2024/10/23/opinion/in-the-pines-our-wiggly-di strict/37024.html i suspect she will win again. but it'd be nice if i were wrong.
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permalink #156 of 541: Frako Loden (frako) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:03
permalink #156 of 541: Frako Loden (frako) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:03
I keep switching between CNN and MSNBC during commercial breaks.
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permalink #157 of 541: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:04
permalink #157 of 541: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:04
Same. Stupid concept, not remotely informative. slippage
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permalink #158 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:04
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From WaPo: Mark Robinson, Trump-endorsed Republican linked to an offensive porn site account, is projected to lose N.C. gubernatorial race Attorney General Josh Stein (D) beat Robinson, according to the Associated Press, keeping the North Carolina governorship in Democratic hands. Robinson was linked to the account of a porn site user who once argued for the reinstatement of slavery, detailed an affair with his wifes sister, called himself a black NAZI and praised Adolf Hitlers book Mein Kampf as a good read. Robinson denied the posts were his.
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permalink #159 of 541: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:08
permalink #159 of 541: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:08
The abortion rights proposition in Florida has failed. 57% voted in favor, but the state's threshold for approval is 60%.
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permalink #164 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:27
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EXCELLENT!
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permalink #165 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:32
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Premise: a Trump loss means a Tesla loss. Discuss. <https://jalopnik.com/what-happens-to-tesla-if-trump-loses-1851689129> >>If investors get spooked, things could very quickly go from bad to worse for Musk and Tesla. SpaceX is valuable in terms of government contracts, but it isnt a publicly traded company he can use to fund his lifestyle. He needs Tesla to remain overvalued to keep this whole thing going, and a few big investors exiting could be the falling domino that eventually brings it all down. If the stock price is based on vibes anyway, bad vibes could easily snowball into a situation where everyones desperate to jump ship before the price falls even further. << The article also argues that Joe Schmo won't be keen on staying with the Musky One: >>In a situation where Trump loses, and Musk tries to go back to being his pre-Twitter-takeover self, its still easy to see a lot of potential customers deciding they dont want to give their money to someone so unapologetically right-wing. I mean, hes already telling people he plans to crash the economy when he guts the federal government like a private equity CEO who just acquired a media company from Univision. Regular people dont tend to like guys like that.<< I dunno. My impression has always been that people considering the social and political impacts of their purchases are in a distinct minority. Witness Amazon.
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permalink #167 of 541: magdalen (magdalen) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:37
permalink #167 of 541: magdalen (magdalen) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:37
NYTimes needle-o-meter is pointing toward a Trump win. i am so sick of this shit. this dysfunctional country with our intense partisanship and just plain different values. it's not all geographical. if it were i'd suggest secession.
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permalink #168 of 541: Andrew Alden (alden) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:38
permalink #168 of 541: Andrew Alden (alden) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:38
So far so good.
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permalink #170 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:41
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Don't despair yet, magdalen, no matter how tempting. Everyone and his dog predicted the "red mirage". These are the in-person votes; the GOP regularly derides mail-in votes, so they show up in droves at the polls. The absentee and provisional votes get counted last. <https://www.axios.com/2024/11/05/trump-harris-2024-election-absentee-voting-re d-mirage>
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permalink #171 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:41
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Slippage!
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permalink #174 of 541: a (coiro) Tue 5 Nov 24 18:58
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Guilty. I saw the reports and saw something so expected as to seem almost normal, and didn't think beyond that. But now that you put it that way ... holy crap. At least some of those efforts have been identified, so we're not entirely oblivious. I'm not positing that as reassurance, of course.
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permalink #175 of 541: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Tue 5 Nov 24 19:08
permalink #175 of 541: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Tue 5 Nov 24 19:08
<We are under attack by foreign countries trying to help Trump> They're told we're under attack by immigrants and foreign cultures. But I think this really is a global struggle, and it's one I never imagined would happen, especially our doom coming in the form of Donald Trump. He was always just a minor, slimy character in the American story, and he suddenly rose up as a legitimate threat to the established order, his all-consuming ego destroying everything in its way. It's just a twist I didn't see coming.
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