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permalink #351 of 578: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Thu 7 Nov 24 06:53
permalink #351 of 578: Renshin Bunce (renshin) Thu 7 Nov 24 06:53
I'm with you on that, jnfr
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permalink #352 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Thu 7 Nov 24 06:55
permalink #352 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Thu 7 Nov 24 06:55
The other side organized for 160 years to get to this point. You could also say they organized since Brown, or since Roe. That's how I'm thinking about it today.
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permalink #353 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Thu 7 Nov 24 06:59
permalink #353 of 578: Transforming energy since 1949. (jonl) Thu 7 Nov 24 06:59
Republican Bill Kristol on responding to the Trump/MAGA victory: "This requires organized opposition. This requires figuring out what levers of power are available to limit the damage Trump can do, and to thwart or delay or impede Trump's plans. It requires Democratic elected officials to be serious about leading different aspects of the opposition. It requires others with institutional help or personal credibility to work with them in myriad ways. "These next couple of months are important. The adversarial work shouldn't wait until Trump's inauguration. If Trump as president-elect sails through these next two months unimpeded and unmarked, he'll take office in a position of great strength. If, on the other hand, there's effective opposition to his worst appointees, if real obstacles can be put in place ahead of time to his worst policies, if real efforts are organized to protect individuals the Trumpists intend to go after, Trump could start off with much less ability to do damage than one might expect. "Trump and his allies will control the federal government. This is, to say the least, no small thing. But this is a big and diverse country, and it's a big and complicated government, and there are laws and institutions in place that can't be steamrolled as easily as they were in Hungary or Venezuela." From The Bulwark, <https://www.thebulwark.com/p/no-honeymoon-for-trumpism>
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permalink #354 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 07:26
permalink #354 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 07:26
>the precincts with turnout below the countyâs average were clustered in liberal areas I suspect mail-in ballots from those precincts were intercepted and trashed by Louis DeJoy. I'm not buying the lower turnout narrative.
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permalink #355 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 7 Nov 24 07:53
permalink #355 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 7 Nov 24 07:53
It seems to me that 15 million physical ballots would be a lot to hide, axon. Someone would notice...
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permalink #356 of 578: David Gans (tnf) Thu 7 Nov 24 07:59
permalink #356 of 578: David Gans (tnf) Thu 7 Nov 24 07:59
I do wonder what fuckery went on that we haven't heard...
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permalink #357 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:17
permalink #357 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:17
>Someone would notice Evidently not. Not a lot to shred, certainly.
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permalink #358 of 578: a (coiro) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:20
permalink #358 of 578: a (coiro) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:20
I am truly appreciating all of these posts. It's good not only not to be alone, but to be with smart, feeling people, too. What are you hearing from friends and family? I've been talking to the Wellbeings here; I sent an email of love and caring to circle of good friends; and my sisters and I have been zinging messages back and forth. These are all like-minded people. I haven't talked to anyone who may have voted for Trump, but tbf, that's my life. AFAIK I don't know anyone who would have. Amongst my circle it's been messages of shared love and support, shell-shock, and a great deal of discussion about where to move. You?
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permalink #359 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:29
permalink #359 of 578: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:29
My circle is much the same. Lots of anger, but also lots of self-care and people looking out for each other.
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permalink #360 of 578: David Turoff (condorito) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:37
permalink #360 of 578: David Turoff (condorito) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:37
Same here.
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permalink #361 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:41
permalink #361 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:41
Good day all. Yes, there has been a lot of checking in with friends and family over the past day, and a lot more to do, too. It's tangible and feels real. I've been an environmental journalist for about two decades now. Compared to activism, this work has felt like a very good fit with my skills and worldview (accuracy and facts over groupthink and cant), and has given me a mission since I have believed that good journalism contributes to improving the world, at however small or large a scale. For a combination of institutional, personal and health reasons my work load is modest right now. So I can't just burrow into work to get myself through this latest grief, coasting on my past convictions until they start to feel authentic again. So today, I am spending a solid chunk of time cleaning and organizing my apartment, to try and ground myself in the immediate reality that I have a safe, pleasant home and haven, one that's likely to remain my home (if I want it) no matter what comes next, and it's a privilege to have these things and good for my spirit and soul to remember all of that.
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permalink #362 of 578: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:55
permalink #362 of 578: Mary Mazzocco (mazz) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:55
I baked cookies and ate them with some neighbors last night. It didnt fix anything, but for a short while we remembered that there are still good people and delicious things to eat.
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permalink #363 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:57
permalink #363 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Thu 7 Nov 24 09:57
I was deeply moved by something <jonl> posted elsewhere <https://wagingnonviolence.org/2024/11/10-things-to-do-if-trump-wins/> and by something <therese> posted elsewhere <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCna8cLHgMI> and both suggest reconnecting with friends as part of healing and moving forward in resistance
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permalink #364 of 578: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 7 Nov 24 10:11
permalink #364 of 578: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 7 Nov 24 10:11
I've been reading a book that goes into detail on American history in the late 1800s. That's when the spoils system that had been the default in the federal government was gradually abandoned and civil service reform led to the professional, nonpartisan, independent federal workforce that made America great. Trump plans to upend that with an executive order and stock the bureaucracy with hacks and cronies five levels deep by firing the lot of top managers and leaving the rest open to manipulation. This ought to concern Republicans and Democrats alike. Congress ought to do something. The near certainty that it won't kept me awake a lot last night.
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permalink #365 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 10:32
permalink #365 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 10:32
I've been stress baking as well.
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permalink #366 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 10:56
permalink #366 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 10:56
Larry, I've been reading that article Jon posted, as well. Yesterday I could not get far. Today I'm almost to the end.
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permalink #367 of 578: Alan Turner (arturner) Thu 7 Nov 24 11:14
permalink #367 of 578: Alan Turner (arturner) Thu 7 Nov 24 11:14
Of all the ways I thought our republic might end, I never dreamed it would be because a fake reality TV show host couldn't take a joke.
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permalink #368 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 11:35
permalink #368 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 11:35
Over at Vox, political reporter Andrew Prokop writes, "Kamala Harris lost the presidential election and Democrats lost control of the Senate. "But when you zoom in on the details of that result, theres a striking pattern: Democratic Senate candidates are outperforming Harris. Or, put another way, Republican Senate candidates are doing worse than Trump... "...Some might argue for racism or sexism explaining Harriss struggles, but Id note that several of the Democratic candidates who overperformed Harris were nonwhite or female. Others might argue that she was a uniquely flawed candidate or campaigner, but President Joe Biden was on track to do much worse if hed stayed in the race. "My suspicion is that Harriss electoral struggles were more about Bidens unpopularity and her association with his administration than any newfound love of the American public for the Republican Party generally." https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/383197/kamala-harris-results-underperformed -democratic-senate-candidates
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permalink #369 of 578: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:01
permalink #369 of 578: Ron Levin (eclectic2) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:01
I don't understand why Biden was so unpopular, but I agree that was a big headwind Harris had to face. I also don't understand why she didn't do more to try and set herself apart from his administration: Kamala Harris Lost Her Way After The View Interview Left Her Campaign Stranded With Joe Biden <https://variety.com/2024/tv/columns/kamala-harris-the-view-joe-biden-123620302 2/>
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permalink #370 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:03
permalink #370 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:03
>didn't do more to try and set herself apart from his administration Because it had a Hall of Fame season.
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permalink #371 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:12
permalink #371 of 578: Emily Gertz (emilyg) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:12
Good news: Democrat Laura Gillen has won New York's fourth congressional district. Talk about every vote counting: It was 182,771 for Gillen, vs 176,623 for Republican Anthony D'Esposito. That puts the House currently at 196 Democrats, 209 Republicans. Thirty races have not yet been called.
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permalink #372 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:45
permalink #372 of 578: Larry Person (lperson) Thu 7 Nov 24 12:45
Oh that is awesome news. Thank you Emily!
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permalink #373 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 13:04
permalink #373 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 13:04
Unsurprising, but my Congressmember, Val Hoyle, has been reelected in a district that last elected a Republican in 1972.
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permalink #374 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 13:05
permalink #374 of 578: Axon (axon) Thu 7 Nov 24 13:05
Oops; the link: https://www.kezi.com/news/freshman-democrat-val-hoyle-wins-reelection-to-us-ho use-in-oregon-s-4th-congressional-district/article_7acecd26-9275-5adb-9003-00f 21e30e8a6.html
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permalink #375 of 578: a (coiro) Thu 7 Nov 24 13:53
permalink #375 of 578: a (coiro) Thu 7 Nov 24 13:53
Good to focus on the victories.
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