Inkwell: Authors and Artists

    
Acclaimed journalist and New Yorker staff writer John Seabrook joins
Inkwell to discuss his deeply personal and provocative new book,
"The Spinach King: The Rise and Fall of an American Dynasty."
Drawing from a trove of family documents inherited after his
father's death, Seabrook uncovers the complex, and often dark,
legacy of Seabrook Farms - his family's frozen food empire that
once dominated agriculture in southern New Jersey. The conversation
explores themes of power, exploitation, family dysfunction,
capitalism, and historical memory, as John reflects on uncovering
painful truths, reconciling with his past, and telling the
long-silenced stories of exploited workers whose labor built his
family's fortune.

Publisher's web page for the book:
<https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324003526>
John Seabrook's website: https://www.johnseabrook.com/
  

    
John, this book is deeply personal - what inspired you to explore
your family's legacy in "The Spinach King," and why now?
  

    
Hi Jon. I had planned on writing a fairly conventional history of
Seabrook Farms without a lot of me in it. But new information kept
intruding on that plan. When my Dad died in 2009 he left me a bunch
of papers detailing how awfully my grandfather had treated him. It
seemed like he was posthumously recruiting me in a revenge plot
against his father. That was a brain bender that took some time to
process. Then, in the 2010's, regional newspapers that covered
Seabrook Farms daily back in the 20' and 30s began appearing on
newspapers.com and they were searchable. That's where I learned
about my uncles terrorizing workers with violence during the 1934
strike. I also discovered the pictures of the strike that the NY
Post, a pro labor paper in those days,published other pictures in
the National Archives. I also started drinking too much, partly to
blunt the pain of these discoveries and eventually ended up in AA.
Also Rose O'Haiti, who we adopted in 2010, kind of changed the
trajectory of the narrative so that now I had an ending that wasn't
just the fall of Seabrook Farms. Once I had all that, and the
sobriety to manage it, there were still years of drafts trying to
get the balance of memoir and history right. Where did I belong and
where didn't I belong in the narrative? There was no way to outline
that. You had to throw it in the wall and see what sticks. I was
fortunate to have a brilliant structural editor at Morton, Tom
Mayer, to advise me and encourage me not to give up. Having a person
who believes in you is invaluable in getting difficult creative work
done. 
  

    
Was it challenging to balance your roles as both a journalist and a
family member when writing about your own history?
  

    
No one really wants a writer sibling or son around who is going to
write about private matters. I may have been helped because the
Seabrooks liked being written about by journalists. It was free
publicity for the brand. My father courted and then married a
journalist. But they always controlled the narrative. With me the
fear was they couldn't control what I was going to write. They could
control other things but not that. But still as the writer in a
family story you have to draw a whole bunch of lines in the sand. 
I'll tell this, but I won't tell this. Or I'll wait until they're
dead. Or I won't put my self into the historical material I wasn't
there for, I'll only put myself into the stuff I experience. But
then, do I put myself into when it's about uncle Courtney running
over the striking worker with a truck. Yes, but to do it I have to
pull back from the scene to the research I'm doing about the scene
and say how it felt to learn it for the first time. It's like
picking your way through a dense wood trying to find a way through.
Step by step. 
  

    
In researching your own family, did you find a lot of surprises? Or
did you already know most of it through your own experience and
family accounts?
  

    
"No one really wants a writer sibling or son around who is going to
write about private matters."

Your mother in particular. I remember her cautioning you, "Don't
write about your family," and when you asked why, she was a  bit
blunt and sharp saying, "Just don't." I think she probably was just
being motherly protective. 

I'm glad you did write the book. 
  

    
Welcome, John! Fascinating topic!
  

    
Hi David. Been a while. 
  

    
This is in response to what did I learn that I didn't know in my
research. The strike was the big one.  My father had never mentioned
it - even when he was trying to write his speech and I was helping
him.  I went deep into the rabbit whole of Donald Henderson and his
wife Eleanor. That my uncles had both been witnessed committing
these acts of terror on the striking workers. I learned that after
both of them were dead. The whole strike section is made up of
information I gathered from the local papers that got digitized and
put on newspapers.com and from The Nation archives. One of the
things that kind of kills me is that my Uncle Courtney ran over Mack
Bradwell with a truck, but Mack continues to me my grandfathers most
devoted worker. Now I text with his 98 year old daughter Margy who
has five copies of the book. There's also the story of the
Estonian opera singer which I ended up cutting from the book but
I'm going to dig it out and post it because it really gives you
the picture of who my grandfather was. 
  

    
You were pretty young when your grandfather, Charles Franklin
Seabrook, died. So you didn't really get to spend time to get to
know him while he was alive. How well do you think you know him now,
after researching and writing the book?
  

    
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Here's a link to a podcast conversation with John about the book:
<https://youtu.be/G4DWr25u2NM?si=MRr8_S0Ck2tB6o9u> That's a video
link. Audio is at
<https://plutopia.io/john-seabrook-the-spinach-king/> or on most
podcast platforms.
  

    
Thanks for joining us here, John.

Your mother, as you and others here mentioned, did not want you to
write about your family.  Do you think she knew about some of the
uglier areas, or was it more a caution from having seen too many
people surprised by a journalist's take on their experience?  Or
just a sense of privacy - your dad had such a carefully tailored
portrait of how he wished himself and the family to be seen - and
maintaining that?
  

    
The irony is that when my mother met my father, she was a working
journalist and saw him as material. And he was man who courted
publicity and saw her as a potential source of it. Even after it
became clear that he was looking for more than a story, she
continued to see him more as column than boyfriend material. When
she goes does to South Jersey for the first time, after getting back
from the Grace Kelly wedding, she still thinks she's getting a
column out of this eccentric guy who wears a top hat and spends his
money in the dumbest way she can imagine. The photograph on the
cover of the book is taken that day. Anyway so it's somewhat ironic
that she later took such hard stand against me writing about the
family. But of course she knew very well by then that the Seabrooks
weren't all about top hats and champagne -- that there was this
horrifying man, my grandfather, who she had spent three years around
before he evicted her from our house. 
  

    
Here's the story of the Estonian opera singer.

Heinrich "Heinz" Riivald was a famous Estonian opera singer who,
with his wife, Asta, with whom he sometimes performed, were among
the six hundred Displaced Persons my grandfather sponsored, so that
they could leave the D.P. camp in Eastern Europe and come to work
for him in New Jersey. After the Riivalds arrived in Seabrook, where
Heinz was put to work as a truck driver, they sang in the Estonian
choir my grandfather's church in Deerfield.

A few months later, Heinz auditioned for the Philadelphia Opera
Company, and was offered a contract. But when my grandfather, who
had donated to the opera company in the past, heard about the offer,
he threatened to end his patronage. If opera fans wished to hear
Riivald sing, he said, they could come to Deerfield. The opera
company withdrew its offer.

Riivald, devastated, pleaded with my grandfather. to reconsider, but
the old man refused. Instead, he offered to "take care of me,"
Riivald remembered in a 1963 interview, by paying him one hundred
dollars a month to sing in church, and giving him a brand-new
Packard automobile. He also enlisted Riivald as his personal driver,
and so that he could bring him to society affairs in Philadelphia,
where, after introducing him as his chauffeur, he would say, "he
can sing too," and demand that Riivald perform. 
  

    
So maybe your mother felt he was * her story *, all hers, and no one
else would have that insight...

Gad, your grandfather ... neff said.


Something I really appreciated about the book was how you limned the
logistical problems of agriculture then - the original farming
within reach of the markets via horse and wagon.  And then your
families innovations - scaling the small farm, changing to
mechanization, the advent of refrigeration and freezing - set within
the broader challenges of the industry. Did you just innately know
that from the family ethos?  Or what sort of research did you get
into to have such a sweeping picture? 
  

    
I think your grandfather is your most interesting character; your
dad runs a close second. In the first instance, all C.F.'s workers
loved him and he sometimes seemed to love them more than his own
family. Yet, he was not a lovable man. He changed the eating habits
of a nation (the world?) but was cunning, promiscuous, domineering
and spiteful. He cheated his own father out of the farm and
disinherited freely.

I'll get to your Dad later. 
  

    
"Riivald, devastated, pleaded with my grandfather. to reconsider,
but the old man refused. Instead, he offered to "take care of
me," Riivald remembered in a 1963 interview, by paying him one
hundred dollars a month to sing in church, and giving him a
brand-new Packard automobile. He also enlisted Riivald as his
personal driver, and so that he could bring him to society affairs
in Philadelphia, where, after introducing him as his chauffeur, he
would say, "he can sing too," and demand that Riivald perform. "

My heart bleeds for Riivald. 
  

    
John, I'm enjoying your book! Because I was impatient to get to the
WWII part of it, I dove into Act IV and went to the end. Now I've
returned to the beginning and looking forward to reading Acts II and
III. It's an interesting way to read a book that I don't usually
follow, but it's bringing up some fascinating reflections--maybe
more to do with your mother than the men of the family.
  

    
I'm not much more than 100 pages in. (Not because I'm not enjoying
reading it, but because of life events getting in the way.)

The photos form an excellent preview.
  

    
Yes, the photo of Jack kneeling in the field inspecting his crop is
interesting and revealing. Tall, blue-eyed, thin and well-muscled, 
Princeton '39, etc, he was the anthesis of his father, everything
his father was not; he seems to have inherited the name but not  the
character. 

So, it'surprising that your mother turned him down on his first
proposal. If ever there was a "catch," he would be it, IMO. Dashing,
stylish, and wealthy,  he moved easily  among the rich and powerful,
Randolph Churchill, Conrad Hilton, Lord Beaverbrook, etc. In
deference, Aristotle Onassis even flew the Princeton flag off his
yacht. Hail fellow, well met indeed.

So, it's rather a shock that as he aged, Jack changed, turned back
and regressed to walk pretty much the same path as his father. It
must have been hard to witness this, yes?
  

    
Thanks everybody for these comments and for your attentive reading
of the book. That's an interesting insight about my mother perhaps
thinking the Seabrook Farms story was her story to tell. If so, she
never told it. Her letters, which I only saw after she died, told
part of it. Kind of heartbreakingly, she busied herself after their
marriage with writing a history of four-in-hand coaching. Huh? Which
was never published because in that rarified world only coaching
experts published and the experts were male. She did write a simple
but sweet (if doom laden) children's book, Cabbages and Kings, with
illustrations by Jaime Wyeth.

I think my mother turned him down because her mother convinced her
he couldn't possibly be on the level, that he was going to recruit
her into a King Farouk-like harem. As I say in the book, it's
surprising that she would go boldly into these reporting assignments
with movie stars and talents like Christian Dior, but was so
timorous when it came to Philadelphia society. I think her social
anxiety had a lot to do with her reluctance to get hitched to my
dad. 
  

    
I'm betting that, when she got into the journalist role, the
personal, including social anxiety, would drop away for the
duration. 
  

    
Agree that a person can be a bold journalist and yet timid when
representing only themself.
I'm finding the labor stuff very interesting, partly because my
grandparents were union organizers in those days (and Communinsts).
  

    
Regarding the story of the Estonian opera singer, Riivald, which I
ended up cutting from the book  because it just seemed a beat too
much -- to me this perfectly captures my grandfather's attitude
toward his workers, and the Estonian's in particular, whose Teutonic
looks and, in some cases, Jew hating he was drawn to. He had saved
them from the DP camps, and if he hadn't sponsored them, perhaps
they would have been sent back to Soviet-occupied Estonia, where
their bourgeois western associations might have got them imprisoned
or disappeared. And as a result, they were his, to do as he pleased
with. If you can, try to find The Paradox of Seabrook Farms, a film
by Helga Merits. I will be appearing on a panel with her and members
of the Seabrook Estonian community, after a screening at
Northeastern in Boston on October 16th